Default Browser Follow-up

Gibson, H <> hgibson at
Fri Jun 28 09:09:37 UTC 2013

xo : I agree, but the present Firefox sync is not "Ubuntu user friendly" as is Google Chrome.
For example: During first start of Firefox is the ubuntu user asked if they would like to sync with "Ubuntu One"?
I am not sure if promoting the Firefox sync service when using Ubuntu is a good thing.
The Ubuntu community has no control over the Firefox sync service.

Hilton Gibson
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From: ubuntu-desktop-bounces at [ubuntu-desktop-bounces at] on behalf of x o [ukr at]
Sent: 28 June 2013 11:01 AM
To: ubuntu-desktop at
Subject: RE: Default Browser Follow-up

firefox has it's own sync service for a long time and it works the same way chrome's does, there is no need to force mozilla into "ubuntu one" because any user can setup ubuntu one synchronization of ~.mozilla folder

> From: hgibson at
> To: abral at; ubuntu-desktop at
> Subject: RE: Default Browser Follow-up
> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:25:37 +0000
> Hi Abral
> You make some very good points about Firefox.
> But from a users perspective, I find Google Chrome extremely useful because of the way I can easily sync my bookmarks etc.. between my work computer and home computer and mobile device.
> I think this speaks to device convergence as Mark has so often mentioned, as a primary goal for Ubuntu.
> I do not normally intercede on this list but I feel the goal of device ubiquity and how an internet browser deals with it is very important.
> Perhaps if Firefox could be "configured" to automatically sync using the cloud "Ubuntu One" service then it would be on "useful" parity with Google Chrome.
> Regards
> Hilton Gibson
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> From: ubuntu-desktop-bounces at [ubuntu-desktop-bounces at] on behalf of Abral [abral at]
> Sent: 28 June 2013 03:00 AM
> To: ubuntu-desktop at
> Subject: Default Browser Follow-up
> Even if I think openness and freedom should be the main reason why
> Ubuntu should have Firefox by default, I won't talk about this here.
> This is a non comprehensive list of "non-philosophical" reasons:
> 1) Firefox is a lot more familiar than Chromium for Linux users. It's
> always been the default and it's the default in almost all the
> distributions. Most of the people that don't prefer Firefox are using
> Chrome, and not Chromium.
> 2) Firefox has a built-in PDF reader.
> 3) Firefox is better integrated with GNOME.
> 4) Firefox is going to support GStreamer soon
> (
> 5) Firefox is going to support GTK3 soon
> (
> 6) Firefox has made a great effort to hunt down responsiveness issues,
> seen in pauses and jank. They have made significant improvements seen
> both in current releases as well as current nightlies, with more on the way.
> 7) When it comes to JavaScript performance, there is no clear winner. In
> some tests, Firefox is faster. In other tests, Chromium is faster.
> 8) Mozilla is working on a project called OpenWebApps, that looks
> similar to Unity webapps. You could reuse Firefox code to make Unity
> webapps run in chromeless windows.
> 9) Firefox supports more architectures.
> 10) Firefox is more customizable than Chromium.
> 11) Firefox memory usage is a lot better than Chromium's and has
> improved even more in the latest releases (that would be shipped with
> Saucy), for example see
> 12) Mozilla is working on some cross-platform technologies that could
> benefit Linux users. For example, Shumway (that is a replacement for
> Flash), pdf.js (a pdf reader written in JavaScript), asm.js (that could
> enable interesting applications and games to run on every platform, so
> also on Linux).
> 13) There's good support for Firefox in Ubuntu. There are some (or, at
> least, one) Canonical developers that are experienced with the Firefox
> code base and are working on it
> (
> 14) About web developers, I think it's a matter of taste. Firefox has
> good web developer tools, and Chromium has good web developer tools too.
> Firefox has also the addon Firebug, that is one of the most used by web
> developers.
> 15) Firefox has smooth scrolling, some people are used to it and
> wouldn't like the worse Chromium's scrolling experience.
> 16) There are other Linux distributions developers that are working on
> Firefox. Canonical would benefit from it for free.
> I can't see any reason why you should switch to Chromium.
> The responsiveness issues that Chow Loong Jin was talking about have
> been mitigated a lot in the latest releases and will continue to improve
> (there are some projects to improve this, like there was a project to
> improve memory usage).
> The GLES issue that Oliver Grawert was talking about will be likely
> fixed soon enough, see
> They're considering
> switching to EGL instead of GLX.
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