It's time to jettison CCSM

Mathieu Comandon strycore at
Fri Jan 27 11:28:13 UTC 2012

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Sebastien Bacher <seb128 at>wrote:

> Le 27/01/2012 03:42, Mathieu Comandon a écrit :
>  Removing ccsm only benefits users that would go change random settings
>> without knowing how to restore a working desktop.
> Right, the not-so-technical users following forum posts from the internet
> are the ones who got screwed and the ones we should care most about, users
> who are technical enough to deal with the side effects of ccsm are also
> probably technical enough to go through some extra steps to get it
> installed.
You're right but this doesn't change the fact that ccsm only exposes
functionality from libcompizconfig, removing it will make it harder to
break stuff but it will still be possible to do so. The removal of the
package is not what I consider to be the problem, I can of course upload it
very easily to my PPA. The real problem in my opinion is that this would
send the wrong message from the Ubuntu Desktop team to the upstream Compiz
project. It basically says "We only support compiz as long as it's tied to
Unity, but not for anything else". With Ubuntu being the single major
distro shipping with Compiz, I think it has now a role to play in
maintaining the WM it's tied to in good shape, and not only for Unity
related stuff.
I'm aware that the Ubuntu Desktop didn't ask for this responsibility, this
is a side effect of the strong ties between Gnome-Shell and Mutter but if
Ubuntu doesn't give its full support for the Compiz project, who will ?
Trying to bring a great and solid user experience for the desktop is great
and is a really important thing to take care of. But I consider maintaining
compiz alive even more important because without it there is no Unity.
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