It's time to jettison CCSM

Jorge O. Castro jorge at
Fri Jan 27 04:46:24 UTC 2012

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Oli Warner <oli at> wrote:
> By that logic we should probably remove:
> rm
> mv
> sudo
> nano
> ...
> They're all installed by default. CCSM isn't and you can do a lot more
> damage with any of those than CCSM alone.

Those are well documented stable tools that do exactly what they are
told. If I told you that every "sudo rm -fR /var" there was a one in X
chance that /usr/bin would get blown away then that would raise an

> CCSM is very obviously a power tool. Power tools very obviously allow
> you to screw things up. It's how we deal with those breakages that
> defines how usable Ubuntu is.

It's not a power tool, it's a stopgap tool that ended up being used
because no one has started to make anything better. All my power tools
have safeties on them. :)

> CCSM's problems:

You list a bunch of things broken with ccsm that haven't been taken
care of since Feisty; so I am hesistant for anyone that says "we
should just fix CCSM" but no one ever does.

It's been nearly _6 years_ that we've shipped this tool and it's been
nothing but problems, clearly no one cares enough to fix it, so why
carry the risk?

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