ubuntu-desktop Digest, Vol 78, Issue 18

Thu Dec 29 12:39:59 UTC 2011

I use ubuntu for several years (since 2006) but i can´t get used to unity.
The usability is just terrible. Trying to work with more then 5 windows is
a nightmare. I want to switch to another distro, but Gnome-shell is also
terrible and kde not so nice either... maybe windows is the only way out.

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>   1. Re: Ubuntu usability is significantly decreased with Unity
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> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:35:11 -0500
> From: Alexander <rhettnaxel at gmail.com>
> Cc: Nenad <nenad_lecek at yahoo.com>, ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu usability is significantly decreased with Unity
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> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jeremy Bicha <jeremy at bicha.net> wrote:
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> > On 28 December 2011 17:55, Nenad <nenad_lecek at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I do not see where to choose Gnome Panel. Again, I'm using Ubuntu
> 11.10.
> > If
> > > I could remove Unity from my desktop and put Gnome panel instead fine
> > with
> > > me. But, because is far from obvious where&how to do it, you have my
> > > comments.
> >
> > You can install gnome-panel from either Software Center, Synaptic, or
> > apt-get. Then on the login screen, click the gear button next to your
> > name and choose GNOME Classic. You might be a bit disappointed as
> > Ubuntu's nice indicator status menus weren't ported to gnome-panel for
> > Ubuntu 11.10 but they will be available in 12.04. By the way, you need
> > to hold down the Alt key (or if Compiz is running: Alt and the Windows
> > key) to customize gnome-panel 3's applets.
> >
> > I don't recommend attempting to remove Unity.
> >
> > > I have impression that the Unity is mandatory, simply because I cannot
> > find
> > > a way to switch back to Gnome Panel. So, if Gnome Panel is available in
> > > Ubuntu 11.10 and Unity is not mandatory, fine. And again, Unity was
> > selected
> > > as a default option - bad choice, the user should have easier way to
> > switch
> > > between Unity and Gnome Panel.
> >
> > In my limited experience, people new to Linux don't have a problem
> > with Unity especially if someone shows them how to use it. In fact, I
> > think it's a better experience for this user group than the classic
> > GNOME desktop. For a variety of reasons, Ubuntu will not provide
> > multiple desktops by default (basically for the same reasons Ubuntu
> > doesn't provide multiple web browsers or photo editors). However, a
> > variety of desktop interfaces and applications are available for easy
> > install in the Software Center.
> >
> > Jeremy
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> This thread is disappointing. There are some complaints about Ubuntu and a
> lack of userability etc. If you don't like something about Ubuntu, change
> it. Learn how to work with your Unix-like system. The mailing list doesn't
> need to be filled with complaints providing no help or useful information.
> If you like it, great! Get involved and make a difference. If you don't
> like it, great! Get involved and understand how the distribution is
> organized. Alternatively, you can leave and go to something else. Enough
> complaining, it's not helpful.
> Alexander
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> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 03:14:33 +0000
> From: Jos? Celestino <japc at co.sapo.pt>
> To: Nenad <nenad_lecek at yahoo.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-desktop at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu usability is significantly decreased with Unity
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> On Qui, 2011-12-29 at 00:55 +0100, Nenad wrote:
> > On 12/28/2011 09:38 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> >>
> > > This list is ok to use for discussions about the desktop, but you
> should
> > > back up your claims with facts. It is not a fact that Unity doesn't
> > > serve users well. It serves me well, for instance. Claiming that Ubuntu
> > > is no longer user friendly because you don't like one of the
> > > applications it provides, is pure nonsense.
> >
> > well, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and found really annoying to use Unity.
> > Open several windows (e.g. Netbeans, firefox, nautilus and gitk and try
> > to work efficiently with menus of each application, minimize/maximize
> > window, etc., Unity is just driving me crazy.
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> Now try to do that with focus follows mouse :)
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