[bernd at bzed.de: The state of geoclue in Debian]

[Ted Gould]

Not sure what my thoughts are here.  I think that largely the reason
that GeoClue hasn't been touched, is that there isn't a lot of people
pushing for new features, and not a lot of applications have adopted it.

We tried to break up some of the deadlock there by creating
ubuntu-geoip[1] so that the Ubuntu desktop basically always had location
information, though not that accurate.  I don't feel like that has done
much for location information on the desktop, basically the only users
are indicator-datetime and I believe Zeitgeist.

I feel that we *need* to have a system for location information in the
Ubuntu desktop...  it's becoming important for computer, and will be
more important for platforms like phones that we'd like to consider for
the future.  Do we have another solution?

		--Ted

[1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geoip

On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 13:50 +0000, Iain Lane wrote:
> Hello desktop team,
> 
> Since you guys seem to care about geoclue, you might be interested in
> adopting.
> 
> I also offer to sponsor incase you cannot upload to Debian. Maybe it
> makes sense to maintain under pkg-gnome?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Bernd Zeimetz <bernd at bzed.de> -----
> 
> > Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 13:14:28 +0100
> > From: Bernd Zeimetz <bernd at bzed.de>
> > To: debian-devel <debian-devel at lists.debian.org>
> > Subject: The state of geoclue in Debian
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> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > as empathy, webkit and emerillon build-depend on geoclue these days, I thought
> > its time to write something about it on d-devel instead of just orphaning it ;)
> > 
> > We are facing several issues with geoclue:
> > - upstream is more or less dead.The only commits I see in their git are bugfixes
> > for major issues.
> > - Ubuntu splitted the package and applied various changes without getting in
> > contact with their Debian upstream about it. I'm not willing to try to figure
> > out what they did and why and if it makes sense. LP also shows various
> > not-so-nice-sounding bugs (I didn't investigate).
> > - The gpsd provider is a complte mess, the NM stuff also fails to build with NM
> > from experimental, even with the suggested patches applied. And I'm not keen on
> > shipping the latest git master instead of a released version.
> > 
> > So unless somebody steps up to maintain *and* actively develop geoclue, it will
> > be orphaned soon and I'll file bugs to remove it from the packages which
> > build-depend on it.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bernd
> > 
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