Desktop Team 20090728 meeting minutes

Rick Spencer rick.spencer at canonical.com
Wed Jul 29 00:40:59 BST 2009


Here are the minutes from the desktop team meeting. You can also find
them and the irc log here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-07-28

== Present ==
=== Main Meeting ===
 * Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
 * Alexander Sack (asac)
 * Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
 * Bryce Harrington (bryce)
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
 * Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
 * Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)  
 * Tony Espy

=== Eastern Edition ===
 * Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)
 * Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

== Apologies ==
 * Chris Cheney (calc) - conference
 * Martin Pitt (pitti) - holiday
== Agenda ==
 * Outstanding actions from last meeting

=== Announcements ===

=== Status Updates ===
 * Partner Update
 * Kubuntu Update
 * Release Bugs/Release Status
 * Review activity reports

=== Discussion ===
 * Sprint planning

== Actions from this meeting ==
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to add burndown chart to meeting template
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to check into getting some different wireless
access points for testing NM to Dublin
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to create list of design team inputs needed for
sprint
 * ACTION: everyone who can, do some sponsoring extra sponsoring this
week

== Outstanding actions from last meeting ==
 * ACTION: asac to set up wiki page to track bluetooth devices for
desktop team
  * RESULT: will work on as a team in Dublin
 * ACTION: Riddell to report on current state of Blue Tooth in Kubuntu
Karmic
  * RESULT: Upstream Blue Tooth support is not active
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to update on gdm greeter skinning resources at
next meeting 
  * RESULT: will discuss in design/DXE meeting 2009-07-29

== Partner Update ==

UbuntuOne:

[[UbuntuOne/DesktopIntegration/Status|Status]]

 * desktop couchdb
   * Uploaded to ubuntuone beta ppa, REVU today or tomorrow
 * client records api
   * Uploaded to ubuntuone beta ppa, REVU today or tomorrow
 * evolution using couch for storage
   * evolution-couchdb is in REVU and couchdb-glib is in universe
 * file syncing
   * in main and on CD (DONE)
 * generic contact picker UI
   * no longer in scope for karmic
 * screen sharing
   * might punt for karmic
 * firefox bookmarks syncing
   * to be reviewed by asac   

 * MIR
   * couchdb
   * erlang

DX:
 * FUSA replacement work (SUS) 
   - Basic funcationality done
   - Design team is working on it now
   - should be ready to integrate during the Dublin sprint

== Kubuntu Update ==
 * Kopete protocol fix for Yahoo in jaunty-proposed unapproved
 * Qt 4.5.2 includes security fixes for QtWebkit

== Release Status ==
|| '''Id''' || '''Title''' || '''Assigned To''' || '''Status''' ||
'''Importance''' || '''Package''' || '''Release''' || '''Milestone''' ||
|| 401165 || build dependency on GCC-4.3 [armel] || asac || In Progress
|| High || thunderbird (Ubuntu Karmic) || karmic || karmic-alpha-5 ||
|| 392593 || [karmic regression] cannot connect to wireless network ||
jr || Confirmed || High || plasma-widget-network-manager (Ubuntu Karmic)
|| karmic ||  ||
|| 403581 || restart required notification and button not shown in ffox
3.5 || asac || Triaged || High || ubufox (Ubuntu Karmic) || karmic ||
ubuntu-9.10-beta ||
|| 396448 || inconsistent automounting on startup || pitti || Triaged ||
High || devicekit-disks (Ubuntu Karmic) || karmic ||  ||
|| 135548 || Action on critical battery isn't triggered || pitti ||
Triaged || Medium || gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu Karmic) || karmic ||
||
|| 386699 || Mistakes external USB flash disk for system-internal disk
|| pitti || Triaged || Medium || gvfs (Ubuntu Karmic) || karmic ||  ||
|| 388898 || Move Empathy Dependencies to Main and Update Desktop Seed
|| ken-vandine || New || Undecided || gupnp-igd (Ubuntu Karmic) ||
karmic || ||
|| 388898 || Move Empathy Dependencies to Main and Update Desktop Seed
|| ken-vandine || Incomplete || Undecided || telepathy-butterfly (Ubuntu
Karmic) || karmic || ||
|| 395299 || gdm 2.26 has no graphical configuration tool ||
robert-ancell || Triaged || Wishlist || gdm (Ubuntu Karmic) || karmic ||
||

== Sprint Planning ==
 * pitti would like to see fewer scheduled meetings this sprint
(compared to last), but rather focus on task list
 * rickspencer3 will try to have zero meetings schedule, but can't
promise other teams won't impose
 * Add agenda items here:
https://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuPlatform/Sprints/Karmic/Desktop
 * One item is to get below the trend line for the burndown chart:
http://piware.de/tmp/desktopteam-burndown-karmic.png
 * asac points out that we should bring some wireless access points to
the sprint so that we can test out different protocols and such

== Other Business ==
 * asac likes seeing the burndown chart on the meeting wiki page,
rickspencer3 to add to template
 * Some MIRs (iBus, OLS)  are "stuck", asac to spend some time working
on them this week
 * mat_t asks about design deliverables needed for the sprint
 * seb128 points that we are falling behind in sponsoring due to Daniel
being on holiday

== Activity reports ==

=== Alexander Sack (asac) ===

Mozilla:
 * start work on nspr/nss upstream version upgrade as a
security/stability effort for hardy/intrepid
 * mozilla experiment communication/blog post
 * debug BadWindow bug that prevents firefox 3.5 startup on some X
setups; developed band-aid, committed to trunk packaging branch and
forwarded upstream - LP: #401055)
 * mozilla-devscripts: work with bdrung to add more automagic to xpi.mk;
extension packages now automatically detect the target applications,
creates the links accordingly and even provides a ${xpi:Depends} feature
 * get xulrunner 1.9.1 promoted to main
 * port classpath and a few other packages to xulrunner 1.9.1

NetworkManager/Connman/Bluetooth:
 * ping blueman upstream about more info.
 * uploading obexd required for gnome-bluetooth
 * add missing license headers in upstream code for modemmanager; check
all files with git log to
   get proper copyright; next: commit upstream
 * file and fix a few cosmetic connman packaging bugs (fixed: LP:
#400576, #402998, 402999)

Chromium:
 * work on v8 javascript engine packaging; developed patch for v8 that
uses GCC pragma visibility to hide all internal symbols; send upstream
 * add javascript_engine build parameter for system-v8; test packages 

Misc:
 * fix a leak in notify-osd (probably more to come)
 * sponsoring a few packages (adblock-plus, mozgest, fische)
 * integration call

=== Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) ===

 * langpack-o-matic: a couple of trial runs in order to see if the
introduced changes work, fixing bugs in the changes
 * built first round of language-packs
 * language-selector: reviewed the gtkbuilder branch
 * reviewed Chinese fonts for the OEM team
 * Rosetta: cleaning import queue

=== Bryce Harrington (bryce) ===
 * Sponsored:  -synaptics (#402863)
 * Developed a CGI tool for upstreaming bugs
 * Expired bunches of -fglrx, -nvidia, and -intel bugs
 * Caught up on triaging of -intel bugs
 * Upstreamed scores of -intel bugs; all upstreamable -intel bugs are
   now upstream (still awaiting comment from reporter on a few)

=== Chris Cheney (calc) ===

=== Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) ===
done:
 * Alpha 3 testing, fixing and release
 * KDE 4.3 RC 3 packaging coordination, testing and release
 * Discuss Qt Phonon's headers location with upstream and resolve fix
upstream in next Qt release
 * Package new Arora, add flash install prompt, fix Oxygen widget style
to give KDE dialogues in Arora
 * Stop k3b moaning about missing MP3
 * Investigate KDE Bluetooth, dead upstream, have ordered a bluetooth
device so I can check if it works at all
 * write MIR for eina

blocked:
 * Fix Kopete for Yahoo protocol change in kdenetwork, needs approval
from jaunty-proposed Unapproved
 * MIR for Eina

todo:
 * Kubuntu translations love day tomorrow

=== Ken VanDine (kenvandine) ===
===== Last week: =====
 * Desktop CouchDB refactoring
 * Desktop CouchDB packaging (uploaded to u1 beta ppa, REVU real soon)
 * Bindwood with desktopcouch experimenting
 * couchdb fix for permissions on /etc/couchdb
 * alpha3 testing
 

===== This week: =====
 * MIRS for couchdb-glib, evolution-glib, and json-glib
 * empathy indicator patch review
 * Assisting U1 team with new packages in REVU
 * empathy-human-theme package


=== Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) ===
=== Accessibility ===
 * Further work on the gnome-speech replacement specification. Stumped
on how best to implement some functionality, and upstream are not very
responsive, so will have to nut this one out myself.
 * Filed bugs for accessibility related issues to do with the chat
window and any theme other than the classic theme, as well as the online
status drop down combo box. One more bug was found late today relating
to accounts and a combo box in that dialog, so nee dot file a bug for it
ASAP. Haven't yet hooked these up with bugs in launchpad yet, as most of
them are already fixed, thanks to a very responsive upstream.
 * Updated gnome-orca, mousetweaks, and gok to 2.27.5 in karmic.
 * Updated gnome-mag to 0.15.7 in karmic.

=== Audio ===
 * Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa
userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement.
 * Got a response from Lennart about rtkit and Kee's requests, need to
read through it again and attempt to make the changes that Kees wants to
see before rtkit can get into main.
 * Started work on the alsa-plugins package to provide a separate a52
plugin package in the archive, so that if users want surround sound
support via digital output for PulseAudio, then doing so is only a
download away.
 * Set up pavucontrol git master, and pulseaudio git master to test out
PulseAudio's digital audio output profile functionality when combined
with the alsa AC3/a2 plugin, for 5.1 surround sound, and hit upon a bug,
which has been determined to be ALSA related, and filed upstream.
 * Continued testing bluetooth audio functionality with pulseaudio.
Received a bug report re bluetooth audio and pulse, but have yet to
attempt to reproduce the bug.
 * Updated gnome-media to 2.27.5 in karmic.

=== Misc ===
 * Sponsored uploads for yelp, gnome-system-tools, abcde (universe, was
a merge I did last), totem-pl-parser, and libraw1394.

=== Martin Pitt (pitti) ===

=== Robert Ancell (robert_ancell) ===

 * Package update/merges: pycairo, totem, totem-pl-parser, gcalctool,
gnome-games, gedit, file-roller, vino, gnome-system-tools, yelp, tomboy
 * MIR for gmime (required for totem-pl-parser)
 * Work on PolicyKit integration into GDM

=== Sebastien Bacher (seb128) ===
 * new GNOME versions: gtk pango gdm gtk gtkhtml evolution-data-server
evolution evolution-exchange gnome-keyring

 * updated notify-osd to new version in karmic

 * updated gnome-panel profile and gnome-applet build to not have a
duplicated mixer applet in karmic

 * tested alpha3 cds

 * looked at retracer issues, discussed those with pitti and applied
suggested workaround to downgrade gdb to get those running again

 * looked at profiling nautilus start speed, added start marks to the
code to trace those and set up tools to mesure time spent, next speed is
to start tackling issues

 * desktop-karmic-gnome-3 spec:
 - listed gnome-vfs rdepends on the alpha3 image
 - listed libglade rdepends on the alpha3 image, opened bugs for things
which are not tracked upstream already
 - sent patches to switch usb-creator (in karmic now) and
language-selector to gktbuilder

 * desktop bugs triage

 * sponsoring: ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-storage-protocol json-glib
ifscheme mono-tools nis gnome-settings-daemon totem pycairo sabayon
translate-toolkit ubuntuone-client ucommon diggler pessulus alsaplayer
libgda4 mountmanager gtkmm2.4 (and commented on lot of other bugs, the
sponsoring list really need cleaning)
=== Tony Espy (awe) ===

  * Upgraded both of my macbooks to karmic
   * Spent most of Thursday afternoon trying to recover my
     new macbook after the upgrade.  It died and wouldn't boot.
     Somehow it miraculously started working again Friday morning.
   * Reported a problem with a jockey crash trying to install the
     Broadcom Wi-Fi driver on my macbook.
  * Installed blueman.
  * Desktop IRC meeting
  * Did some minor connman and network-mamager ( jaunty
    backport ) testing.
  * MOTU: created sync bugs for: console-common, obexpushd, scmxx
  * Read the Gnome Human Interface Guidelines.
  * Started working on network-manager applet dialog simplification.

=== Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter) ===

  * Completed switchover of Plug'n'Print from HAL to udev. Finished
testing and fixed all remaining problems of the upstream software. The
resulting udev rules and callouts are part of the system-config-printer
upstream project and in the system-config-printer-udev package now
(source package system-config-printer). This package has a
Replaces/Conflicts: hal-cups-utils and system-config-printer now
recommends system-config-printer-udev instead of hal-cups-utils.
  * Uploaded new system-config-printer package. This package is the
current GIT snapshot (Release 1.1.10 + some more stuff) incorporating
all recent upstream development and also the new udev rules and
callouts.
  * Fixed several bugs in the new system-config-printer and submitted 8
patches upstream (and applied them also to the Ubuntu package).
  * Patched hp-plugin (from HPLIP) to make the download of the
proprietary plugin working correctly.
  * The new system-config-printer works great now with my 13 HP
printers.
  * Answered and triaged printing-related bugs.






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