Desktop Team 20090825 meeting minutes

Rick Spencer rick.spencer at canonical.com
Wed Aug 26 01:36:20 BST 2009


Here are the minutes from the desktop team meeting. You can also find
them and the irc log here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-08-25

== Present ==
=== Main Meeting ===
 * Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
 * Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
 * Bryce Harrington (bryce)
 * Chris Cheney (calc)
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
 * Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
 * Martin Pitt (pitti)
 * Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)  
 * Tony Espy
 * David Siegel

=== Eastern Edition ===
 * Luke Yelavich (TheMuso)
 * Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

== Apologies ==
 * Alexander Sack (asac)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)

== Agenda ==
 * Feature Freeze Readiness
 * Work Items

=== Feature Freeze Readiness ===
Focus of the meeting was on status of our specs wrt Feature Freeze.
Specs should be marked as "Beta Available" or "Implemented" by Thursday
2009-08-27.

The list of blueprints is available here:
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+specs?searchtext=desktop-karmic-

We did not discuss specs already marked as Beta Available or
Implemented. The following specs were discussed becuase their status was
not set to Beta Available for Implemented at the time of the meeting:

==== Not Beta Available for Implemented ====
|| '''Blueprint''' || '''Status''' || '''Notes''' ||
|| desktop-karmic-bug-workflow || n/a || Outside of product, not Feature
freeze impacted ||
|| desktop-karmic-integrating-with-ubuntu-one || Started || blockers are
desktopcouch and evolution-couchdb, both should be in by 2009-08-26 ||
|| desktop-karmic-gnomescan || Started || ready for inclusion, but will
need to be tested and compared to x-scan next week ||
|| desktop-karmic-network-ui || Good Progress || Feature complete, but
some changes due for UI Freeze ||
|| desktop-karmic-compiz-bug-management || n/a || Outside of product,
not Feature freeze impacted ||
|| desktop-karmic-language-selector || Slow Progress || At risk, parts
may need to be postponed ||
|| desktop-karmic-browsers || Good Progress || Not clear how this
overlaps with Firefox 3.5 spec, will sort out when asac returns, not
blocking feature freeze ||
|| desktop-karmic-gnome-speech-replacement || Good Progress || Filing
MRI today - no blocking issues with hitting Feature Freeze||
|| desktop-karmic-social-from-the-start || Good Progress || Decided not
ship in main, as we have no room on the CD, it's coming in late, and
there are no dependencies on it ||
|| desktop-karmic-input-methods || Good Progress || ibus-anthy, -hangul
and -chewing need to be synced from debian, then the seeds can be
changed ||

==== Now Beta Available for Implemented ====
|| '''Blueprint''' || '''Status''' || '''Notes''' ||
|| destkop-karmic-quickly || Beta Available || v 0.2 due in universe
when desktopcouch is available ||
|| desktop-karmic-gnome-3 || Beta Available || zeitgeist and gnome-shell
are in universe, may continue to remove deprecated libraries as time
allows ||
|| desktop-karmic-evolution-couchdb || Implemented || feature complete||
|| desktop-karmic-gdmconfig || Implemented || Has been in the product
for about two weeks ||
|| desktop-karmic-bluetooth-stack || Beta Available ||  documentation
and testing are left ||
|| desktop-karmic-firefox-3.5 || Beta Available || Default in Karmic
since A5 ||

==== Open Office ====
 * 3.1.1 (final) release will be Thu Aug 27.
 * Still need new OOo images from kwwii

==== Kubuntu ====
 * Generally in good shape for feature freeze lots  of green on
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo
 * Plasma netbook needs FFe
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-netbook/+bug/412101
 * Knetworkmanager is in reasonable shape but we'll need to keep
updating it from upstream
 * DX still have a patch due for Quassel for message indicator and
patches to tidy up other notifications
 * MIR still pending for gpsd and MIRs due for
plasma-widget-{facebook,kubuntu-qa-feedback,kimpanel,googlecalendar}
 * packagekit 0.5 due but waiting on policykit-kde 1.0 support from
upstream
 * xsplash equivalent needs doing
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicXsplash  

==== OLS ====
 * U1:
   * U1 client release due tomorrow which includes bandwidth throttling,
resumable upload and usage quotas 
 * Couch: 
   * CouchDB 0.10 snapshot uploaded, there will be one more patch needed
fixing an oauth bug
   * desktopcouch release today or tomorrow with replication
   * evolution-couchdb release today or tomorrow, then ready for CD 
     * This will bring desktopcouch and couchdb to the install CD

==== DX ====
 * xsplash:
   * release due today with the last of the features for karmic
 * indicator updates and session applet (fusa replacement) was uploaded
this morning.
 * notify-osd:
   * release due tomorrow morning, including the placement changes

==== Gwibber ====
 * Merging new features back into trunk today, and branching 2.0
immediately after.  Hope to have a feature complete snapshot ready by
tomorrow.

==== X ====
 * mesa 7.6 branch uploaded, stalled while building, but should be
sorted soon, required kernel changes can come later
 * ati kms should be testable after kernel changes are made

=== Work Items ===
{{http://piware.de/workitems/desktop/karmic/burndown.png}}

Still above the trend line. We expect numerous work items to be DONE,
and POSTPONED around feature freeze. We will postpone work items next
week to get below the trend line.

== Activity reports ==
=== Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) ===
 * langpack-o-matic:
  * tweak the scripts for zh langpack split (lots of trial and error)
  * build new language packs for Karmic
 * language-selector:
  * fixed and tested code to pull related translation packages when
language-packs are installed (testing version available in my ppa)
  * hacking on new UI
 * translations:
  * moved firefox-3.0/xulrunner-1.9 translations over to
firefox-3.5/xulrunner-1.9.1, not an easy task, needed some debugging
with asac.
 * misc:
  * investigate available flights for the launchpad-translations sprint
in Belgrade

=== Bryce Harrington (bryce) ===
 * Weekly triage catchup of -intel bugs.
 * Forwarded several more -intel bugs upstreamed
 * Fixed a couple bugs in lp greasemonkey scripts
 * Fixed a couple bugs in upstream cgi script
 * Blogged about improvements to my upstream process
 * Triaging of -ati bugs
 * Sponsored several nvidia-related uploads for alberto
 * Investigated some karmic-targeted X bugs
 * Set up some arsenal scripts as cronjobs to run fully automatically
   now.
 * Confcall on lp tool automation + followup
 * Merged libdrm and mesa git snapshots
 * Complete triaging on all mesa bugs.  Cut total mesa bugs by over
   half.
 * Troubleshoot boot issue after upgrading to latest karmic
 * Fix several bugs relating to X and virtualization

=== Chris Cheney (calc) ===
 * OEM work
 * Uploaded openoffice.org 1:3.1.1~rc1-1ubuntu1
 * Uploaded openoffice.org-l10n 1:3.1.1~rc1-1ubuntu1
 * OOo bug triage

=== Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) ===
done:
 * xsplash-for-kubuntu meeting and spec writing
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicXsplash
 * Get Eina through its main inclusion requirements
 * Test and add patch for fish kioslave
 * Test fix for pykde .ui files failing
 * Port our .pot generation to debhelper 7 as packages have started
needing this
 * Patch boost for PySide (new Python Qt bindings) and investigate bug
when run on karmic, discuss with upstream
 * Build policykit-kde from kdebase-workspace rather than standalone
 * Fix kgraphviewer compile
 * Simplify kpackagekit notification
 * Fix seeds to get CDs building
 * Update konversation libindicate patches from aurelien
 * Fix akonadi packages and build with mysql 5.1
 * Get KOffice compiling again and build with mysql 5.1
 * Patch kdelibs for data loss bug in kfileitem
 * Add plasma netbook patches to kdebase and kdeplasma-addons
 * Package zanshin as requested by upstream
 * Discuss webkit security updates in kdelibs with security team

blocked:
 * MIR on gpsd, any chance this could get done before FF?

=== Ken VanDine (kenvandine) ===
===== Done: =====
 * desktopcouch work
 * created snapshot of the 0.10 branch of couchdb
 * xsplash fixes
 * indicator related packaging work and testing
 * evolution-couchdb debugging

===== ToDo: =====
 * desktopcouch release
 * xsplash release
 * couchdb oauth patch
 * u1 client update
 * gwibber merge, snapshot packaging

=== Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) ===
==== Accessibility ====
 * Further work on the gnome-speech replacement specification. Cleaned
up speech-dispatcher packaging a lot, to the point where its actually
easy to update the contents of a package now. Will send a patch to
debian post FF since I have more pressing matters to think about at this
time.
 * Just about done the speech-dispatcher MIR< just need to review it and
ensure I am correct about my comments re the code.
 * Uploaded gnome-orca, gok, and mousetweaks version 2.27.91 to karmic.
 * Uploaded accerciser version 1.7.91 to karmic.
 * Uploaded a new version of espeak version 1.41 to karmic.

==== Audio ====
 * Audio bug triaging, bugs in question are against pulseaudio, alsa
userspace, and the kernel for hardware enablement.
 * Sent kernel patches relating to rtkit to the kernel team.
 * Further bug fix uploads for pulseaudio, including 0.9.16~test6,
released overnight.
 * Uploaded a git snapshot of paprefs to go with the latest pulseaudio
code.

==== Misc ====
 * A little sponsoring, pulseaudio uploads from Daniel Chen, eog,
file-roller.

=== Martin Pitt (pitti) ===
Karmic feature work:
 * desktop-karmic-automagic-python-build-system: 
   * beta available
   * just the upstream discussion is missing (which isn't bound by
release cycle)
 * desktop-karmic-symptom-based-bug-reporting: 
  * beta available
  * first symptom has been in karmic for a while
  * just release note/test plan left, on track for Ubuntu beta
 * security-karmic-apport-abort: no progress so far, need to get this
done by Thursday
 * [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy|hal deprecation]]: 
  * discussed hal deprecation in checkbox, branch available
  * no other progress, this is probably as far as we can get in karmic;
I'm happy about how far we got, though
 * gnome-panel speedup: no progress this week, target of opportunity

Other work done:
 * updated devicekit-disks and gnome-disk-utility to new versions
 * some udev and apport bug fixing
 * cleaned some cruft on rookery to free disk space
 * started digging into holiday mail backlog

Sponsoring:
 * gnome-power-manager, gnome-system-tools, policykit-1,
policykit-1-gnome, system-tools-backends

=== Robert Ancell (robert_ancell) ===
 * Back from holiday: Catching up on email
 * Package update/merges:
  * policykit-1, policykit-1-gnome, gnome-system-tools,
system-tools-backends, glade-3, gconf-editor, gnome-terminal,
gnome-utils, gedit, nautilus, yelp, tomboy, gnome-games, gdm

=== Tony Espy (awe) ===

Network Manager:

 * New snapshots of network-manager-applet, and modemmanager sponsored &
uploaded by asac.
 * Debugged 3g problems with Dell Mini.
 * general network-manager bug triage.
 * discussed applet menu changes with upstream
 * submitted a NM init.d patch to kill old NM 0.7 system settings daemon
on restart.
 * New snapshots of network-manager-openvpn and --pptp; need to get
these sponsored and uploaded.

Misc:

 * updated my MOTU/Contributing Developer
[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TonyEspy/DeveloperApplication|application]]
page. Created an Uploads page with more detailed information.
 * wrote an overview of Bzr everywhere for the OEM team.

=== Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter) ===

 * Packaged CUPS 1.4 after having talked with Mike Sweet that the
current SVN state is practically the final 1.4 and after having agreed
with rickspencer3, asac, and pitti, to take it into Karmic and to do an
update to the official tarball as soon as it gets available. The CUPS
package needed adaptation of nearly all patches and also several new
binary packages due to 4 added dynamic libraries. Also a patch from
Fedora had to be applied to get DNS-SD support working. Committed to BZR
repo at Debian, pitti is doing some additional small fixes and uploads
the new CUPS then.
 * Uploaded new snapshot of system-config-printer: Today's snapshot of
the upstream GIT repo, CUPS-1.4-related fixes., fix for LP: #416014
(collected 20 duplicates).
 * Uploaded foomatic-gui and ebox-printers with dependency on
foomatic-db-hpijs removed.
 * Answered and triaged printing-related bug reports.





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