Desktop Team Meeting, 2008-02-21

[Scott James Remnant]

For minutes of previous meetings, please see DesktopTeam/Meeting.

== Present ==

 * Scott James Remnant (Keybuk) - chair
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
 * Kenneth Wimer (kwwii)
 * Loïc Minier (lool)
 * Martin Pitt (pitti)
 * Michael Vogt (mvo)
 * Mirco Müller (MacSlow)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
 * Ted Gould (tedg)

 * Jono Bacon (jono)

== Apologies ==

 * Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) - unknown
 * Pedro Villavicencio Garrido (pedro_) - unknown

== Agenda ==

 * 5-A-Day
 * Team Reporting
 * Review activity reports
 * Any other business

== 5-A-Day ==

Keybuk reminded everyone that they should be participating in the
["5-A-Day"] effort led by the community team.  The aim is to touch five
bugs a day, not necessarily fix (though that would be nice).  kwwii is
exempt since artwork follows a different process and MacSlow is exempt
for the time being since he's concentrating on 8.10 work.

== Team Reporting ==

seb128 raised the question of the community TeamReporting process
whereby each team provides a small number of bullet points highlighting
work that the team has done in the past month.  jono joined to clarify
the process.

Since this co-incides with the Canonical Monthly Report, Keybuk will
handle the formality of chasing for input and ensuring the wiki is
updated; each team member should add to the DesktopTeam/ReportingPage
wiki page any highlights.

== Activity reports ==

=== Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) ===

done:
 * Package KDE 3.5.9
 * Draw up list of UDS specs
 * Package Qt 4.4 tech preview
 * Creating, testing KDE 4 CDs, poking Soyuz developers, now --><-- this
   close
 * Discussing and working on default settings package for KDE 4 desktop
 * Merging libraries used by Adept from Debian
 * Preparing for packaging tutorial at FOSDEM, our packaging
   documentation needed quite some revision
 * Packaging KOffice 2 Alpha 6
 * Qt security fix
 * Kubuntu meeting (three new members)
 * system-config-printer-kde polishing (still quite a lot of polish to
   go)
 * archive admin (new queue zero achieved after a full day)

next week: 
 * Alpha 5
 * FOSDEM

No milestoned bugs

=== Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) ===

 * fixed gdm bug #29986, made source package

 * added wallpaper for testing, made source package.

 * fixed one pixel bug in new wallpaper, made new source package

 * worked on next wallpaper for testing...coming sometime very soon,
   once the reaction from current wallpaper are in.

 * discussed OOo icon repo's with calc. The basis is ready, still
   waiting for mixed Human and Tango repo to present to community
   artists.

 * spent hours looking for gdm icons only to learn that they are built
   into the binary package and not in an icon theme. Thanks go to ogra
   for solving this :-)

 * looked into changing bits of gdm for 8.04.

 * made pdf presentation of UI stuff (attached, but not finished yet).

 * put human icon refresh ideas into bzr and launchpad. Worked with
   community on getting wiki page started.

=== Loïc Minier (lool) ===

==== Misc ====

 * Started looking for tickets for Prague, but still holding off in case
   I would attend FOSSCamp
 * Quite a lot of sponsoring reviews/comments
 * Still affected by not having Internet at home; deeper issues keep
   coming up and being escalated; ETI seems to be in 10 / 14 days

==== Desktop ====

 * Syncs from Debian, GNOME updates
   * Hickups on the *mm packages which required a new cdbs version: I
     should have built them on Ubuntu but thought the changes were under
     the control -- pitti did a cdbs merge which fixed the mess;
   * libgnomemm implied a package rename which came a bit close to the
     alpha; this rename might also have created issues for people
     upgrading all the way from breezy and relying on the old ABI of
     libgnomemm from breezy for some local packages for example; perhaps
     something which we should handle as part of the upgrade process
     ("your system has very old unsupported packages" or "these local
     packages might create issues")?
 * Heated discussion on the topic of the distro patches landing from
   Debian into Ubuntu which add up with the Ubuntu distro patches and
   enlarge the delta with upstream further; the problematic patch which
   triggerred the discussion is now close to being merged upstream, but
   this overall concern should be discussed at UDS and probably
   translated into a patch acceptance policy (this could work nicely if
   Debian would gain a similar policy too); some ideas:
   * dropping/disabling patches added by Debian when these are
     considered too intrusive during merges; I'd like this process to
     consider the technical usefulness of the patch though as Debian is
     also an upstream for us and can produce both useful and dangerous
     patches
   * requiring at least some form of upstream support for the nature of
     the change before merging a non-trivial patch
 * Filed bugs at upstream (Debian) and Ubuntu concerning the lack of
   support for Launchpad of debreaper and requesting its removal from
   Ubuntu for now; the tool duplicates the functionality of apport for
   Ubuntu, so this is minor, but the bug reports sent from Ubuntu
   towards the Debian BTS were annoying and sending them to
   ubuntu-users@ seemed ugly

=== Martin Pitt (pitti) ===

Hardy spec assignments:
 * restricted-manager-rewrite: First cut of KDE implementation landed in
   trunk and hardy, thanks to Martin Bohm. This needs lots of UI polish
   still, though.

 * hardy-reducing-duplication: no progress last week

 * partition-management: got usplash fsck integration working for root
   fs, too; this is now all that I committed to for Hardy, partition
   relabeling is a target of opportunity
 
Unfixed milestoned bugs:
 * 174128 (dhcp3 debconf question during upgrade, beta): no time yet

Other:
 * spent more than two days on NEW, MIR reviews, and other bits of the
   FF rush
 * Fixed scanners to work again in hardy \o/ (I got a scanner recently)
 * reviewed and Arne's language-support split branch, spent some time on
   bug fixes, uploaded the lot
 * Gave a developer week session about patching packages (I'll have
   another one tomorrow afternoon)
 * Set up 5-a-day, gave some feedback to Daniel, who improved it right
   away (thanks, Daniel!); works nicely for me now

=== Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) ===

=== Michael Vogt (mvo) ===

==== update-manager ====
 * UI improvements (as suggested by mpt)
 * be more relaxed about keeping translations if we run without a
   network and just upgrade from CD
 * make the pre-requists fetching more reliable (and add some tests)
 * lts->lts upgrade meeting with the support team
 * deal with packages in "reqreinst" state in update-managers recovery
   mode and offer to kill them
 * upgrade testing
 * fix time displayed since last (apt-get) update 
 * remove code duplicaton in confirmChanges() and make the message
   clearer

==== compiz ====
 * better keybindings and descriptions in gnome-keybinding-properties
 * generate schema files for plugins-main and extra
 * work on the session plugin (testing, minor fixing)
 * prepare updated compiz with session plugin (not uploaded yet, pending
   on ok from the release-team)
 * new libcompizconfig
 * force "number_of_workspaces" to 1, compiz uses viewports and mixing
   workspaces<->viewports is the way to confusion
 * tested glxclip (the possible workaround for dri windows) on a ati
   system and got broken screen content (intel works fine with the
   plugin)
 * fix the 1px invisilbe window border that eats mouseclicks

==== apt ====
 * add GetIndexes() getAll argument to python-apt to support apt-get
   --print-uris style querries
 * add support for reqreinst state to python-apt

==== maintainance ====
 * updated app-install-data for alpha-5
 * updated command-not-found-data for alpha-5
 * tried to update translated package descriptions, but rosetta gave me
   a hard time

==== misc ====
 * review/sponsor packagekit universe upload
 * sponsoring (f-spot, fonts, ..)
 * various bugfixes
 * helped to get python-central into shape again for alpha5 and uploaded
   some bugfixes
 * discuss what to do about the http_proxy environment and sudo 
 * improve "Replaces" handling in gdebi

==== travel ====
 * prepared fosdem (next weekend)
 * prepared packaging training in london (mon-thu)

Next week:
 * fosdem
 * packaging training in london

=== Mirco Müller (MacSlow) ===

==== spec-related work (hardy-desktop-effects-profiles) ====
 * needed to redo packaging gnome-control-center with
   libcompizconfig-support as a new version of g-c-c was uploaded before
   my initial version of g-c-c was considered for upload-sponsorship

 * working on profile-support in g-c-c with newer libcompizconfig
   (ongoing)

==== spec-related work (hardy-desktop-effects-shortcuts) ====
 * asked for help with scale-, expo- and zoom-icons for wncklet's
   tooltip on ubuntu-art mailing-list, no reply yet will have to draw
   them myself :/

 * reply to bug-report regarding complains about tooltip-size on
   launchpad (LP: #192232, milestoned-bug), handed over newer version of
   libwnck for upload-sponsoring fixing most of the issues mentioned in
   this bug-report, also CPU-load delaying popup of tooltip is fixed

==== misc ====
 * helped Alexander "asac" Sack a bit with testing things regarding
 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/188652
   and
 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/191791

 * travel-preparations for training in London at Millbank office and
   trip to FOSDEM 

 * solaced community-folks regarding further requests when work on
   sparkle continues

=== Sebastien Bacher (seb128) ===
 * usual desktop updates

 * lot of bugs triage

 * desktop bugs fixing and backporting svn changes

 * worked with alex on some gvfs issues

 * discussed gdm LANGUAGE use with upstream

 * fought with bzr to do a simple package rebuild, we really need to
have a standard way and make things easier there

 * IRC session about contributing to the ubuntu desktop team

 * subscribed to 5-a-day

=== Ted Gould (tedg) ===

==== Specs ====
 * about-this-computer: Finished packaging and a patch to gnome-panel.

==== Packages ====
 * Developed documentation for GPM hug day (today) on how to debug GPM,
   or at least figure out how to justify reassigning the bug to someone
   lower in the stack.
   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingGNOMEPowerManager  Planning to hug
   some bugs.

==== Misc ====
 * Feb 18 was a holiday
 * I'll be in Boston next week for training.  That means Mon-Wed I'll
   probably be more difficult to get a hold of, and when you do I'll be
   UTC-5 instead of UTC-8.
 * Planning travel for UDS and Boston.
 * Vacation March 24-27


Scott
-- 
Scott James Remnant
scott at canonical.com
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