Call for testing empathy

Brett Alton brett.jr.alton at
Thu Aug 14 18:40:18 BST 2008

I would personally be worried switching from one program to the next
all the time.

A little while back Gaim was renamed to Pidgin, which I'm sure
confused a couple users. Although they were the exact same program, it
would have taken a couple minutes (or even a half an hour on the
Internet for some users) to figure this out.

Now we'll be switching to Empathy, which although it has the purple
backend, has a different front-end than Pidgin.

I think it is great that an instant messaging program is included in
Gnome, but I'd be worried about such a change when the program is
still in beta (or gamma) stage.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Danny Piccirillo
<danny.piccirillo at> wrote:
> I think Empathy is perfectly stable at this point, but doesn't have quite as
> many features as pidgin (file transfers and meta-contacts although file
> transfers should be ready really soon). It makes up for it with other things
> though. Voice and video, it does support all the protocols pidgin does,
> better integration, and the missing features are not far away. I've been
> using it exclusively for the past couple months and i don't think i could
> switch back. I think including this in Ubuntu now will lead to a better
> Ubuntu sooner (for those that are worried it isn't quite ready yet). I mean,
> Empathy works great as a multi-protocol char client (in my opinion) and i
> don't think any more users will be put off by it than by pidgin. People who
> like pidgin better can still easily install it. Sure, they can do that with
> Empathy, but including it is moving towards a better desktop faster. It will
> get integrated at some point, and i think it would be better in the long
> term to do that now (i also think it would be better in the short term but
> hopefully those that don't think so can at least agree on this).
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Luke L <lukehasnoname at> wrote:
>> Here's my other thought: I personally don't have Intrepid to test this
>> software out. Hardy doesn't have a functioning version (without going into
>> PPA and manual setup, which is not what most people will do). Jumping
>> straight into having it replace Pidgin might be hasty. Consider getting a
>> stable program in the OS for a release before making it default.
>> I am admittedly ignorant as to how stable Empathy and its extensions are.
>> Since several others and myself have never /heard/ of it before, I assume
>> it's a relatively new project.
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