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Fri May 18 20:04:34 BST 2007


break X after reboot...
Will the new X 1.3 be more helpful with dual head???

Does displayconfig-gtk also support SVideo output???

On 5/29/07, Sebastian Heinlein <glatzor at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Hello Desktopers,
>
> the new and shiny GTK frontend to displayconfig (the x configuration
> part of the KDE admin suite named guidance) has got some usability
> issues. I would like to start a discussion about this to get your input
> and comments.
>
> Currently the dialog is separated into three tabs:
>
> - Display mode (allows to change the resolution, rate of each screen)
> - Dual head (allows to configure a dual screen setup)
> - Devices (allows to choose drivers and monitor models)
>
> You can get a recent feisty package of displayconfig-gtk here:
>
> http://glatzor.de/filesink/displayconfig-gtk_0.2
> +20070523ubuntu2_i386.deb
>
> Furthermore some older screenshots can be found on the Internet:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DisplayConfigGTK
>
> The problem is that this layout behaves quite bad in the current use
> case: Setting up a new monitor for dual screen use.
>
> At first you have to go to the devices chooser and select another model,
> then back to the dual head tab and choose the right mode. Most times you
> will forget to go back to the first tab and change the resolution before
> clicking ok ang logging off and in.
>
> Furthermore it is quite hard to identify monitors on the first tab if
> you have got more than one graphics card.
>
> So the a solution could be to merge the display mode and devices tab to
> single tabs of which each would represent a single graphics card:
>
> http://glatzor.de/filesink/dcg-gfxbase.png
>
> ****
> If you want to the new/other user interface on your computer
> (displayconfig-gtk needs to be installed before):
> bzr branch http://glatzor.de/bzr/displayconfig-gtk/gfxbase/
> cd gfxbase
> ./displayconfig-gtk --data-dir=3Ddata
> ****
>
> There is the objection that identifying screens by graphics cards is
> quite geeky, since most users only know of the screens that they see and
> not internal cards.
>
> Hopefully most systems would only have got one device. And the people
> that bought a second card for dual screen are used to the technical
> terms.
>
> If there would be only one device and one output the user would only get
> one device tab and the screen selector on the left would not show up. So
> the new interface could scale well.
>
> http://glatzor.de/filesink/gfxbase-single.png
>
> I am unsure if we should remove the dual head configuration tab at all
> or only make it insensitive in single screen mode. On the one hand users
> that connect a second screen later on another computer would know where
> to search for, but on the other hand users that perhaps for all time
> will only sit in front of one monitor will be bothered with more
> technical and complex issues. If the second tab is invisible we could
> even hide the borders of the notebook or perhaps exchanged them by a
> separator:
>
> http://glatzor.de/filesink/gfxbase-stripped-down.png
>
> Although I designed the dialog I am still a little bit confused by the
> multiple screens layout and I heard this from others too.
>
> This could be related to the screen selector. But improving it can be
> quite hard, since we are limited in space that can be used by the main
> window and therefor the screen selector: the dialog has to fit on a
> 640x480 screen.
>
> Currently the model name of the screen is available twice: one time in
> the selector and one time on the device/model chooser. Currently the
> device chooser label uses ellipsis and therefor does not consume too
> much space. It would be nice if would not to duplicate this text.
>
> Would using numbers for the outputs make more sense? Moving the selector
> to the top seems to get us into space troubles.
>
> By the way the driver name on the lowest selector will be replaced by a
> human readable and longer name in the future.
>
> In the near future I plan to add location/profiles support to the
> window. That would allow you to manage different X configurations and
> easily switch between e.g. your home and work setup.
>
> See this and the previous screenshot:
>
> http://glatzor.de/filesink/gfxbase-profiles.png
>
> I would be appreciate your input, comments and suggestions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sebastian
>
> P.S.: To avoid any XRandR 1.2 questions: Primarily we will use the
> traditional approach by xorg.conf modifications. But we plan to
> implement an instant apply function using XRandR 1.2 as far as possible.
>
>
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