"Log Out" menu has too many items

[Tristan Wibberley]

Øivind Hoel wrote:
> http://www.gnome-cn.org/Members/jcome/screenshots/gnome-2-14-screenshots/newmenu-1.png/view
> 
> Oh the wonders of google :)
> 
> Seriously though, I think the ubuntu dialog is an improvement over the
> gnome dialogs. We just need some polish, that's all.

I know I've said it before, but I don't agree. I think the one click
then walk away is great, and having shutting down as a conceptually more
significant thing than merely a subtype of logging out is important for
those who aren't as logically inclined as us computing old hats.

I think where Ubuntu improves on GNOME is in including sleep and
hibernate as forms of shutting down - which, as a concept, they are.

But, for me, the biggest problem is that logging out or shutting down is
such a short task which begins with the corporate, practical style of
the panel menus, but whose second and final click is on a dialogue that
is in a more fashionable style. I don't think the two genres mix well in
the middle of such a short task.

I would also like to see something that neither logout dialogues posses
and that is in making "switch user" less obvious. I think Log Out is the
right thing, in most cases, for users to do when another user wants to
use the same head. Only when they know they've got something that needs
to keep running would they be best served by using "switch user". In all
other cases (especially with GNOME starting as quickly as it does, and
using as much memory as it does) Log Out is better. Since handing over
to another user is *actually* switching user, many who don't understand
what it *really* is would press that if they think it is a form of
logging out, as it is presented in both dialogues.

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Tristan Wibberley