Windows FOSS on the Live CD -- the OOo2 question

[Petr Tomeš]

Hello,

I agree with you. The main purpose of this LiveCD is show what is
Ubuntu about, not for applications for Windows. Most of distributed
applications for Windows haven't localizations - how many users of
this LiveCD aren't speaking English? About one half? Furthermore, some
users don't use Windows (they max use Mac OS X or some linux
distribution) so that applications for Windows are useless for them.

So please make experince with Ubuntu LiveCD better for all users of
this LiveCD (e.g. by adding more or more rich language packs or
applications), not only for those with Windows and only for English
users.

Thank you.

Petr Tomeš,
Ubuntu CZ - http://www.ubuntu.cz/

2006/3/9, Aaron Whitehouse <lists at whitehouse.org.nz>:
> Christian Bjälevik wrote:
>
> > Sure, but it's not Ubuntus default piece of software. Therefore I don't
> > think we should ship it on the WinFOSS part of the CD either. The space
> > is better used for other things... Like, for example, Ubuntu! :-)
>
> I have thought about this since the thread began and I personally cannot
> justify the inclusion of the Windows FOSS on the CD at all.
>
> Perhaps it is my commercial background, but I think of the live CD as an
>  Ubuntu salesperson. The job of the CD is to entice the user to switch
> to your product. If I hired a salesperson to represent my product and
> they spent 1/6 of their time (100MB of the CD) telling a potential
> 'customer' about ways to use products on a competitor's platform, they
> wouldn't last very long. I think the difficulty that often arises in the
> open source world is that people lose their focus and, in trying to
> achieve too many aims, fail in all. I would like to see all Windows
> users using FOSS but that is a different aim from wanting everyone to
> use Ubuntu. As has been said before - the market for open source on
> Windows is saturated, TheOpenCD and various other projects fill this niche.
>
> To my mind the only justification for the precious space on the CD to be
> wasted on Windows support would be to give instructions on how to get
> the CD working (as they are already doing things incorrectly if they are
> in Windows by the time they are looking at the content). I personally
> have been using Ubuntu since Hoary and have not once viewed the CD in
> Windows.
>
> What the Live CD has always been missing, and which would be a much
> better use for the space in my opinion, is some 'hand-holding'. I have
> sold many people on Ubuntu and *never* have I just sat them at my
> install and left them to it. What I will do is step them through some of
> the 'cool' things; point at things on the screen and give them some
> guidance. If a presenter was giving a talk to a room about Ubuntu, they
> would explain about Ubuntu and talk them through reasons that it is
> better for them than anything else. Why then is there nothing on the
> Live CD to convince them when the user is so close to being converted
> that they have gotten so far as to put one of our CDs in their computer?
>
> I would be keen to see voice instructions, movies, demos, little bubble
> things, at least *something* on the screen to get me excited when I
> first get going. Maybe we should recruit a cute 'paper-clip-equivalent'
> to sit in the corner and suggest things for you to try.
>
> Most people reading this will like and promote FOSS on Windows, but
> would prefer to see people in Ubuntu. Don't sell yourself short; Ubuntu
>  is what we are selling when we are making a Live CD.
>
> Aaron
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