Thanks for this proposal Michael On Sep 13, 2015 12:55 PM, "Michael Hall" <<a href="mailto:mhall119@ubuntu.com">mhall119@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > > I'm starting a new thread because I don't want re-hash all of the > arguments from both sides. I firmly believe that everybody involved has > the best interests of Ubuntu at heart, but the discussion doesn't seem > to be making any progress towards a resolution. > > With that in mind, this is a formal proposal to this list, and in > particular to the Community Council, to whom I am also sending a copy of > this for consideration. > > Because the original intention of this new LP team was to aid in the > discovery and participation of the original mailing list, and because > the LP team has already been created, I propose that we leave it in > place with the following changes: > > 1) Transfer ownership of the team to the Ubuntu Community Council, as > they are the right and proper authority to maintain a team who's purpose > is broadly applicable to the entire Ubuntu community. Anything claiming > to represent the whole community that does not have the approval and > support of the Community Council is simply not legitimate. > > 2) Change the text in the description making is clear that the team > exists solely to aid in discovery by Launchpad users, and provide links > to existing community resources and communication channels. Then do not > use this team for registering blueprints, filing bug reports, or > anything else of that nature. > > 3) Set the mailing list address for the team to be > <a href="mailto:ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com</a> so that we do not create yet > another list and in doing so split the conversations or lose the > existing ones. This should be announced to the launchpad mailing list > for this if it has already been created and used, then that list should > be closed down immediately after. > > 4) Close membership to the team and remove any existing members. Sorry > to those who have already joined, but as has been stated already we have > no definition of what it means to be in "the Ubuntu community team" as > opposed to not in it, and no designated authority to oversee that > membership. As bad as it will look having closed membership, I think > it's even worse to leave it open without being clear what that > membership actually means. We already have other teams that are used to > grant access to various Ubuntu and/or Canonical resources, and I can't > think of any instance where such a broadly-defined team would be used > for that anyway. > > 5) Change the team's logo either to the standard Ubuntu circle of > friends logo, or alternately to the "fishbowl" pictogram[1] that has > historically been used as a designation for the Ubuntu community. > > These changes would provide the maximum benefit to discovery of our > existing community and it's resources, without causing a disruption to > those resources, and adding only a minimal amount of additional burden > on those responsible for maintaining them. I ask that the Community > Council consider this propose and, when they feel they have enough input > from the community at large, vote on it and enact is as soon as is > reasonable to avoid further disruption. > > Finally, I would like to remind everybody in these conversation of your > obligations under the Ubuntu Code of Conduct[2], especially the parts > about being respectful and assuming good intentions. If people are upset > over something that you've done, don't challenge the legitimacy of those > feelings, but rather acknowledge that you have caused them and try to > make it better. > > [1] > <a href="https://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/pictogram-community-orange-hex.svg">https://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/pictogram-community-orange-hex.svg</a> > [2] <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct">http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct</a> > -- > Michael Hall > <a href="mailto:mhall119@ubuntu.com">mhall119@ubuntu.com</a> > > -- > Ubuntu-community-team mailing list > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team</a>