Let's quickly fix a concept here. Being a Canonical employee gives you *absolutely no rights whatsoever* to do whatever you want in the community. It only means you were hired by a company, and we don't care what the position is. Respect and trust still need to be earned. Even more, you may be at Canonical and not help Ubuntu AT ALL. So please, stop mentioning if someone was a Canonical employee. We only care about what they have done with the Ubuntu community when it comes to the meritocracy we have. -- José Antonio Rey <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 13, 2015, 08:46 Alberto Salvia Novella <<a href="mailto:es20490446e@gmail.com">es20490446e@gmail.com</a>> wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Alan Pope: > You have irritated multiple people in many places now. Please > reconsider what you have done and take time to look at yourself and > not shift blame for this upset to everyone else. If someone got upset elsewhere, is there where it has to be solved. Moreover if it's that the thing, probably you are referring to something that happened a long time ago. If it isn't, then it has been said cordially like here. Alan Pope: > Not arriving in a community resource (this list) and immediately > making sweeping changes disrupting the workflow of over 100 other > people. It has been Randall who made the change, who is a former member and a Canonical employee. And as soon as people showed disagreement we started speaking about it in an aim to solve it. Alan Pope: > Not creating new resources for people to maintain when the existing > resources work just fine for their intended purposes. The purpose of the Launchpad team is mainly to advertise it, so it has to do with new users rather than with the current ones. Because in that case it's a fact that things are going wrong: <<a href="https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F03x5qm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F03x5qm</a>> Alan Pope: > Just because he created a team (which I also don't see the point of) > doesn't mean we are obliged to move the list. It wasn't an obligation but a proposal. We have already spoken about it an agreed that it would be a bad decision. Alan Pope: > There is a significant difference between:- > > a) making a prototype thing and sharing it looking for opinions > b) making an alternative to an existing thing as a prototype, which > causes 100+ people to muck about with their workflow to be part of. > c) discussing the need for a prototype new thing, then making it if > consensus felt it was required. > > You chose (b), when you probably should have gone for (c). That could be true, although that doesn't fall under my responsibility ground but Randall's. On the other hand, been that it has been done in good will and we agreed to remove the team if that was what popped up from the conversation, you have been giving too much importance to the mistake. Alan Pope: > Careful, you're in danger of upsetting even more people by making rash > assumptions about how they're feeling and misinterpreting their reply. When I have to repeat myself over and over, and still receiving answers about if we are imposing something, it isn't an interpretation but a fact that people are not paying attention. -- Ubuntu-community-team mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team</a> </blockquote></div>