<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>That Jonathan step down from the KC because according to SABDFL the CC won't work with him anymore<br></div>and since he is still on the KC you can't very well meet can you?<br><br></div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 1:10 PM, elfy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elfy@gmx.co.uk" target="_blank">elfy@gmx.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">The only party that has made a pre-condition is the
Ubuntu CC the KC has actually as a body not made any
pre-conditions. <br>
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Which pre-condition would this be? <br><div><div class="h5">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Paul
Sladen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ubuntu@paul.sladen.org" target="_blank">ubuntu@paul.sladen.org</a>></span>
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On Fri, 29 May 2015, the Ubuntu Community Council wrote:<br>
> Kubuntu Council put a condition … before they would
agree to a meeting<br>
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> we [Ubuntu Community Council] will not be reversing
that decision.<br>
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I noticed the juxaposition of these two statements when put
together.<br>
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Mutual Mexican stand-offs[1] are unlikely to be conducive to
dialogue,<br>
because there is no safe exit for anyone, let alone all.
Perhaps it<br>
would make sense for *all* involved to entertain the
possibility of<br>
toning-down previously-made absolute positions in order to
facilite<br>
discussion.<br>
<span><br>
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> Community Council will be providing a much more
detailed list of<br>
> incidents, with context, to the Kubuntu Council.<br>
<br>
</span>If the ratcheting back of *all* party's
pre-conditions were to occur<br>
at the same time (in advance of the detailed/additional
factual<br>
information being prepared here) this might allow
conversation to flow<br>
more freely after sharing.<br>
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-Paul<br>
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[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff</a><br>
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