<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>That Jonathan step down from the KC because according to SABDFL the CC won't work with him anymore<br></div>and since he is still on the KC you can't very well meet can you?<br><br></div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 1:10 PM, elfy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elfy@gmx.co.uk" target="_blank">elfy@gmx.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>On 29/05/15 19:06, Benjamin Kerensa
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      <div dir="ltr">The only party that has made a pre-condition is the
        Ubuntu CC the KC has actually as a body not made any
        pre-conditions. <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Paul
          Sladen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ubuntu@paul.sladen.org" target="_blank">ubuntu@paul.sladen.org</a>></span>
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            On Fri, 29 May 2015, the Ubuntu Community Council wrote:<br>
            > Kubuntu Council put a condition … before they would
            agree to a meeting<br>
            ><br>
            > we [Ubuntu Community Council] will not be reversing
            that decision.<br>
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            I noticed the juxaposition of these two statements when put
            together.<br>
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            Mutual Mexican stand-offs[1] are unlikely to be conducive to
            dialogue,<br>
            because there is no safe exit for anyone, let alone all. 
            Perhaps it<br>
            would make sense for *all* involved to entertain the
            possibility of<br>
            toning-down previously-made absolute positions in order to
            facilite<br>
            discussion.<br>
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              > Community Council will be providing a much more
              detailed list of<br>
              > incidents, with context, to the Kubuntu Council.<br>
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            </span>If the ratcheting back of *all* party's
            pre-conditions were to occur<br>
            at the same time (in advance of the detailed/additional
            factual<br>
            information being prepared here) this might allow
            conversation to flow<br>
            more freely after sharing.<br>
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                    -Paul<br>
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            [1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff</a><br>
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