Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

Zlatan Todoric zlatan at riseup.net
Fri Jan 15 11:02:15 UTC 2016


Dropping debian-devel@ from CC (not relevant for discussion, someone
should do the same checking for others)

On 01/15/2016 10:57 AM, shawn wilson wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2016 5:11 PM, "Zlatan Todoric" <zlatan at riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/14/2016 09:11 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote:
>>> Nearly all compact Linux computers feasible for gaming are sold
>>> exclusively using NVIDIA graphics, and that company is hostile to libre
>>> software.
>>>
>>> So I think it is very important that we support AMD right now on what we
>>> can, and ask manufacturers to include AMD graphics in those products.
>>>
>>
>> You do realize that AMD graphics need proprietary firmware to have
>> proper 3D acceleration without which you probably couldn't run any game
>> at all - so goodbye Libre graphics.
>>
> 
> Besides that, AMD's fglrx require X to be running in order to run while
> nVidia does not (kinda sucks if you have a bunch of 8 card nodes using the
> cards for scientific applications). Also, in this setting, there were a lot
> more issues with AMD than nVidia (soft crashes, hard crashes, cards going
> offline until reboot).
> 
> I'm not a big gamer, so maybe there are less issues with AMD in this
> setting. And I'd be thrilled if either fglrx or nv were OSS (would weigh
> heavily on purchasing decisions). However, because AMD really pissed me off
> here, I had to say something here.
> 

I am pretty sure this discussion (and the OP) isn't thinking on fglrx
but Radeon open source driver (RadeonSI most probably). It currently
needs closed source firmware to run 3D, but if we stay blind on that,
RadeonSI driver is very capable at this moment.

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