Notice of Harassment

[Jono Bacon]

On 15 September 2015 at 21:25, Micah Gersten <micahg at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> I specifically left that out of my quote. I wanted to correct the statement
> of yours that Ben mailed Randall a quote from the CoC privately.
> But, since you seemingly insist (with the best of intentions I'm sure) I get
> involved, given the following circumstances:

I am not insisting anyone gets involved. I am just responding. Feel
free to ignore this discussion if you prefer. :-)

> 1. Assuming that everyone is well intentioned here
> 2. Knowing that Ben has a penchant for transparency
> 3. Being that Randall's E-Mail didn't seem to contain anything sensitive
> 4. Being that Randall specifically asked not to be contacted directly
> Ben's only option to respond was only available through the mailing list. I
> can only assume he didn't want to be held liable for mailing the list in
> response to any future posts by Randall. Alternatively, he figured the list
> was dropped by mistake. Or (insert other random scenario here)

It doesn't matter whether there was or was not sensitive information
in the email: general social convention with most people, and
certainly in every community I have ever known, is that you *never*
forward on private emails to a public discussion list/forum without
express permission first.

I understand that Randall asked Ben to not email him further, which he
is entitled to do. If Ben wanted to pursue the discussion in a public
setting I think the best thing to do would be to start a fresh thread
to discuss what is on his mind (without forwarding material from the
private discussion).

> Honestly, I think at this point, emotions are very charged. Being that Ben
> is involved in multiple communities where disclosing private communications
> is frowned up, I believe he knows not to do such a thing.
> I'm wondering if Randall would have sent a very similar post to the list had
> he realized the list was CCd in the original communication. I'm not trying
> to blame or whitewash anything here. However, we are all human and sometimes
> err.

Totally. We all make mistakes - I am not trying to turn this into a
big thing. If Ben says "oh yeah, I probably shouldn't have sent it to
a public list" that is totally cool: we all make mis-steps from time
to time. I certainly have. :-)

I just wanted to share some feedback that I think part of our social
convention on this list should be to respect private conversations and
keep them private. I love both Ben and Randall, so this is mean't in
the nicest possible way.

     Jono

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