Thanks Kapil... That's what I was wondering. The Rackspace eng I talked to indicated the move to openstack but didn't know if any work had been done on ubuntu juju implementation to support Rackspace. No where could I find docs/blog etc that said juju charms could really deploy to rackspace openstack (if/where its available). I hope that happens because the interest in openstack is very strong. Having some degree of independence regarding virtual environments by various service providers is as important today as yesterday to avoid lockin. So Dell, HP, Rackspace and others have moved to OpenStack. If Ubuntu wants to become host/client of choice then juju support will be important and so will be the addition of some kind of CMDB capability. At service provider level managing all resources becomes much more important... trouble ticketing, network reliability, compute/storage resource failure reporting etc. I'd mentioned this to a couple acquaintances at canonical in the server eng. group. something like opencmdb from germany looks interesting because it is open source & utilizes some of the same gpl tools ubuntu does in orchrestra/juju. As for Rackspace... just now received on my cell phone a ping from Mitch Garnatt (python Boto ec2/euca tool)... "HP Cloud Services is dropping EC2 API and will now support only OpenStack NOVA." So HP public cloud, Rackspace public cloud moving to openstack... gotta be able to use juju to deploy to them. Maybe this is a new biz for some good sysadmins... produce Charms that do support these public cloud providers...?? Anyway... the juju should help openstack really lead and support of these types of initiatives will be important. collaboration...? <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Kapil Thangavelu <<a href="mailto:kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com" target="_blank">kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Excerpts from brian mullan's message of Wed Dec 14 08:08:16 -0500 2011: <div>> Anything I've found so far talks about Juju support for Eucalyptus, AWS and > OpenStack. > > I've just started looking at Rackspace and from what I can tell their > public cloud is OpenStack based. > > If that's the case it made me wonder if someone today can use Juju from say > their home PC deploy a Juju charm to RackSpace's cloud and end up with a > running server of what that charm deploys? > > Can this be done today or is it something that someone would have to add to > Juju to support Rackspace's OpenStack public cloud? > </div>Rackspace is not a supported provider for juju at the moment. Though Rackspace is moving towards adopting openstack for their public cloud, my understanding is that is neither complete nor do they intend to expose the openstack ec2 api compatibility layer used by juju. A juju machine provider would need to be implemented to support the native rackspace cloud api (perhaps via libcloud). cheers, Kapil </blockquote></div>