[ubuntu-cloud] deboostrapped lucid image from maverick fails on ec2 (with and without AKI/custom kernel)

[Spike Spiegel]

Hi,

> The maverick images (and natty and later) use pv-grub as their "kernel",

just to clarify, you mean a pv_ops supported kernel, correct? the
actual pv-grub kernel is on the host, not in the guests.

> The 'lucid/server' url above contains information about 10.04 images.
> 10.04 does not use pv-grub, as it was announced by amazon too late in the
> 10.04 cycle.  That said, I've put some work into making that happen, and
> have a ppa up at
> https://launchpad.net/~smoser/+archive/lucid-kernel-upgrades

feels like I'm confused and there's something that eludes me. Given
that amazon has a pv-grub kernel in every zone and that lucid has a
linux-ec2 kernel pkg recent enough that it supports pv_ops, why do I
need that ppa? can't I just install that kernel and grub like I'd
normally do for any other lucid box?

> You can do that manually as it appears you've done, or have
> legacy-grub-ec2 manage the kernels for you (see that ppa)

ok, thanks

> In the second and third kernel logs there, it looks to me like the system
> is booted fine.  I'm not sure what went wrong, but theres not a lot to go
> on.

that's the problem and frustration of working on EC2... if it boots
and you can get in debugging is ok, but if you can't you're pretty
much on your own :/

> I promise that I'm not trying to be snooty.  I really do think that your
> life would be easier if you just used the images that we've spent
> resources creating.

Believe me when I say I wish I could do that, I'd be happily punched
in the stomach repeatedly than spending another day pulling my hair on
this stuff, and yet here I am. I guess it'd be lovely if some of the
resources spent creating those images were also spent in documenting
how that was done.

> You can learn a lot by doing what you're doing, but you can also lose a
> lot of hair. If you don't believe me

I believe you, but I still need to get this done unfortunately.

thanks for all the comments and suggestions, much appreciated.

Spike

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