[Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu 9.04 SwissRemix RC]

[Daniel Stoni]

Hello Myriam and team

this is valuable information, thanks. I share with you the position
regarding free and non-free components and I'm pretty sure you will
agree with the selection (as I closely work with Theo Schmidt on this).

Interesting to read your comments about L. I have contacted them to
discuss the the status and I hope the talks will bring clarification
about how to proceed (together) in the Ubuntu ecosystem.

Best regards, Dani
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Myriam Schweingruber schrieb:
> Hi all,
> 
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 10:15, Daniel Stoni <dsto at stoni.ch> wrote:
>> Hello Ubuntu Swiss Team - below some updates regarding our DVD:
>>
>> PPA: discussions reveal that using the swiss team ppa is not the best
>> idea from a security perspective - due its openness. Replacement is
>> under way.
>>
>> LinuxDay Geneva: Talking with Linalis people and visiting their webpage
>> I've learned about SwissOS: http://www.swissos.ch
>>
>> SwissOS is a Remix based on Ubuntu 8.10 developed by Linalis with some
>> local customizations and some nice graphics for usplash, gdm and gnome.
>> They are using some own meta debs on http://www.swissos.ch/main. SwissOS
>> has some preseeding, too (default settings for gfxboot, timezone,
>> language, keyboard).
>> I'm interested in joining efforts, but we have to sort out some points first
>> - Naming: SwissOS - vs. Ubuntu SwissRemix. There are good reasons for
>> either approach
>> - SwissOS includes free and non-free software. This is conflicting with
>> the current SwissRemix approach which tries to be 'clean' from a legal
>> perspective.
> 
> *arghs* NO, no way, we will not ship proprietary software, it is
> simply not compatible with the spirit of free software.
> 
> On another note, I am not keen to team up with a firm that has
> repeatedly bashed the Linux community in the Suisse romande, read the
> GULL mailing list archives about that.
> 
> On another note, Linalis seems to be on extremely good terms with
> Microsoft, and this is again a no go for me. Let Linalis do their
> stuff, they never asked or offered any help without trying to control
> everything. They are and have been violating the Ubuntu spirit in
> several ways so no again, I will not support to work on anything
> involving Linalis unless they change their policy.
> 
> And No Proprietary Software on the Swiss Remix, please, else I will
> refuse to distribute it and ask other people not to do neither...
> 
>> Action: The free packages used will be added to SwissRemix, too.
>> Reference to  non-free Software installation is being added to the
>> postinstall documentation.
>>
>> I still collect votes and ideas for default SwissRemix packaging. Should
>> the kernel sources be in the remix? Wine is not in - any objections?
> 
> Nah, again, this is stuff that people who really need it can install
> after by their own means, especially kernel sources is totally useless
> to the average users and takes up a lot of space that could be used
> better.
> 
> I repeat the warning about the proprietary drivers from AMD-ATI: their
> latest version is *not* compatible with almost all graphic cards older
> than 6 months. They sacked almost all the driver guys for economical
> reasons and of course have not enough staff anymore to support their
> own cards... This warning should be printed in big letters somewhere
> and people should be asked to get in touch with the Ubuntu community
> through mail, forum or IRC to get this sported out before
> installation.
> 
> 
> Regards, Myriam.
> 

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