<div dir="auto">At the moment I'm getting a never ending string of numbers ending with time=around 20 to 100 ms</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 20, 2017 3:52 PM, "CrankyOldBugger" <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I suspect (although I can't say for sure) that the issue isn't with Firefox or Chrome, but with the networking (i.e. your computer can't see the network, thus can't get on the internet).<div><br></div><div>To confirm, go to a command line and enter:</div><div><br></div><div>ping 8.8.8.8</div><div><br></div><div>either you'll get pings from Google (that's one of their addresses) or you'll get timeouts. If it times out, then the problem is most likely with the eth0 or wlan0 or whatever NIC you're using.</div><div><br></div><div>If the pings return good, then try ping <a href="http://www.google.ca" target="_blank">www.google.ca</a>. If it says it doesn't know the address then the problem is name resolution.</div><div><br></div><div>If everything fails, then send us (you may be in for some typing), the results of:</div><div><br></div><div>ip link show<br></div><div><br></div><div>and</div><div><br></div><div>ifconfig</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 15:45 Raymond House <<a href="mailto:raymondh40@gmail.com" target="_blank">raymondh40@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">It says "Firefox can't find the server at start Ubuntu.com"</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 20, 2017 3:42 PM, "Raymond House" <<a href="mailto:raymondh40@gmail.com" target="_blank">raymondh40@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Nope no change </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 20, 2017 3:36 PM, "CrankyOldBugger" <<a href="mailto:crankyoldbugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">crankyoldbugger@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Raymond, this is just a wild shot in the dark here, but it's possible that network manager isn't started. Try this from a command line:<div><br></div><div>sudo service network-manager start<br></div><div><br></div><div>or:</div><div><br></div><div>sudo service network-manager restart<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 at 15:31 Raymond House <<a href="mailto:raymondh40@gmail.com" target="_blank">raymondh40@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Re my post about 17.04 upgrade I did a fresh 17.04 install and I'm getting the same results! I had open suse on a flash drive and it worked ok.Is there a problem with 17.04? I still can't open the browser, it says it can't find the server for start Ubuntu.I am at a loss at what I can do next.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 19, 2017 1:23 PM, "Raymond House" <<a href="mailto:raymondh40@gmail.com" target="_blank">raymondh40@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hi all,I upgraded from Ubuntu 16.10 this morning and the installation stopped at "searching for obsolete software" all works but I can't access the net either with wifi or lan connected.Firefox and Chrome browsers give me the same results"server not found".Any ideas, anyone? 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