<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.28.1"> </HEAD> <BODY> I remember back in the days of CP/M when DOS was not considered 'ready for primetime' either... :P My other comment is a bit more pointed... As someone who has dev'd software for almost 30 years on just about anything that whirred and beeped, one of the MAJOR shortcomings of most developers / packagers etc. is that they forget they are ultimately writing for end users. If they would spend more time with end user their products might be just a bit more useful right out of the gate... rather than on patch 3500... Cheers! Mark On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 11:32 -0800, Randall Ross wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> That's too bad, Tim. We had a fantastic turnout last night and it would have been great if you had found us. For the record, Ubuntu Vancouver members range from developers, to new users, and everything in between. Some our members are GNU/Linux (and Unix) hacks from way back (even Debian too), so there is a good chance you'd connect with someone who is interested in the "nuts and bolts" of the system. We have developers and packagers in the group too. Our Rescue Center last night had several members who are outstanding tech support people. Our meeting locations are published here: <A HREF="http://www.meetup.com/ubuntuvancouver">http://www.meetup.com/ubuntuvancouver</A> As for Ubuntu not being ready for commercial use, I'd love to hear what the list has to say. Cheers, Randall. -- Timothy Webster wrote: > Great, I tried to go the vancouver meetup, but I didn't have the address. > > Very upset, oh well > > I don't think there was anybody more technical than myself there anyway. > I am interested in meeting with package builders not end users. > --------- > > I tracked the problem down to a problem with dual disk configurations, and found through apt-listbugs that debian is tracking it. apt-listbugs is a really useful package everybody who has slightly less tested configuration should install. But it was remove from ubuntu, because only debian tracks bugs by package version. ubuntu tracks bugs by release, not by package version. This is major short coming of ubuntu. And basically why ubuntu can not be consider ready for commercial use. > > --------------- > > > -Tim > > </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>