911 Access

Thu Oct 16 14:03:49 UTC 2014

I normally do not contribute to these threads, as I do not consider
myself technically competant enough.  However there was a statement made
that I simply could not let slip by, the statement being:
"I was Grinning ear to ear. 911 works with it too."

While it may appear that this is correct, you are NOT getting full 911
service unless you are using a "land line" and service provided by Bell,
not necessarily rented from Bell.

Cell phones, IP telephony, etc., none of these systems can give you the
same guaranteed service that you get via a Land Line, and these other
services have already cost lives.

The reason is relatively simple and is due to power.  Bell is required
to provide generators at its COs.  Cell towers are not so required (and
it would be impossible to do given their order of magnitude greater
numbers), nor are internet servers (similar reasons).  Thus in a power
outage situation Cell and IP telephony is much less likely to work.  If
switching to these other services, it is sensible to keep a basic land
line service into your home or office.

Some of the non-land line services providers hake statements about 911
services, but if you read the contract carefully you will find that the
guarantees of service are not the same as with Land Line, and it is
against Canadian Law for them to guarantee full service.
Given the nature of this discussion I felt all participants should be
aware of the facts.

Best regards,

John

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> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:35:01 -0400
> From: LP <linuxpusher2 at gmail.com>
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: netflix
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> I was Grinning ear to ear.
> 911 works with it too.
>
> http://www.nettalk.ca/
> http://www.nettalk.ca/products/duo-comparison/
>
> All the more reason to fight for internet freedom.
>
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> On 16 October 2014 08:21, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Isn't is so great cancelling Bell?  Wifeski and I were felt so good after
>> we cancelled it all (well, her cellphone still needs to go, but that's it).
>>
>>
>> On 16 October 2014 08:09, LP <linuxpusher2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have Netflix for approx 6 months now.
>>>
>>> And Net Talk $39/yr.
>>> I cancelled our satellite & Phone.
>>> Never been happier, bell never once billed us correctly for their
>>> services.
>>> I cannot describe how good it felt to tell bell Cancel our service we no
>>> longer need you, Sigh !
>>>
>>> We 2 Adults, 1 teen & 1 under 12.
>>> Movies and TV shows Galore, NO Sports on it.
>>> For $8/month no contracts first month free give it a try.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13 October 2014 12:37, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I'll tell you I mostly watch foreign films and some good
>>>> documentaries,and Dutch detective TV series where you don't even see a
>>>> firearm also the same in rural England.I bypass all the Bruce Lee kind of
>>>> stuff and specially the american 12 guys dead in the first 12 minutes of
>>>> the film kind of movies.I think it's worth the $8.00 a month fee, no lousy
>>>> commercials !
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM, CrankyOldBugger <
>>>> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glad to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you can help me now.. is Netflix any good?  What can a Canadian
>>>>> watch on it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 October 2014 12:04, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had to cancel Chromium (which was installed ealier) and install
>>>>>> Chrome as per the link you sent and it works fine, thank you Cranky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you Cranky, I will check it out, That was to be my next
>>>>>>> question.I'm using ubuntu 14.04.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, CrankyOldBugger <
>>>>>>> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They now have proper support in Ubuntu for Netflix.  I'm not sure
>>>>>>>> what OS you're running, but you might want to investigate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the announcement:
>>>>>>>> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/10/10/watch-netflix-in-ubuntu-today/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13 October 2014 10:56, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, I'm using silverlight and (I think pipelight) to
>>>>>>>>> view netflix movies and I find that silverlight often crashes, has anyone
>>>>>>>>> else had the same problem? Sometimes I have to shut down and restart the
>>>>>>>>> computer to get it to work again, it never crashes once a movie is showing
>>>>>>>>> but when I make the selection of a title the screen goes blanc and it just
>>>>>>>>> stays like that until I close netflix. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
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> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:39:47 -0400
> From: Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: netflix
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> Tell me then, who supplies your internet connection? please. I would love
> to do the same but Bell is my internet supplier.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:35 AM, LP <linuxpusher2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was Grinning ear to ear.
>> 911 works with it too.
>>
>> http://www.nettalk.ca/
>> http://www.nettalk.ca/products/duo-comparison/
>>
>> All the more reason to fight for internet freedom.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 October 2014 08:21, CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't is so great cancelling Bell?  Wifeski and I were felt so good after
>>> we cancelled it all (well, her cellphone still needs to go, but that's it).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 October 2014 08:09, LP <linuxpusher2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have Netflix for approx 6 months now.
>>>>
>>>> And Net Talk $39/yr.
>>>> I cancelled our satellite & Phone.
>>>> Never been happier, bell never once billed us correctly for their
>>>> services.
>>>> I cannot describe how good it felt to tell bell Cancel our service we no
>>>> longer need you, Sigh !
>>>>
>>>> We 2 Adults, 1 teen & 1 under 12.
>>>> Movies and TV shows Galore, NO Sports on it.
>>>> For $8/month no contracts first month free give it a try.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13 October 2014 12:37, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, I'll tell you I mostly watch foreign films and some good
>>>>> documentaries,and Dutch detective TV series where you don't even see a
>>>>> firearm also the same in rural England.I bypass all the Bruce Lee kind of
>>>>> stuff and specially the american 12 guys dead in the first 12 minutes of
>>>>> the film kind of movies.I think it's worth the $8.00 a month fee, no lousy
>>>>> commercials !
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM, CrankyOldBugger <
>>>>> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you can help me now.. is Netflix any good?  What can a Canadian
>>>>>> watch on it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13 October 2014 12:04, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had to cancel Chromium (which was installed ealier) and install
>>>>>>> Chrome as per the link you sent and it works fine, thank you Cranky.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thank you Cranky, I will check it out, That was to be my next
>>>>>>>> question.I'm using ubuntu 14.04.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, CrankyOldBugger <
>>>>>>>> crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They now have proper support in Ubuntu for Netflix.  I'm not sure
>>>>>>>>> what OS you're running, but you might want to investigate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's the announcement:
>>>>>>>>> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/10/10/watch-netflix-in-ubuntu-today/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13 October 2014 10:56, Raymond House <raymondh40 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, I'm using silverlight and (I think pipelight) to
>>>>>>>>>> view netflix movies and I find that silverlight often crashes, has anyone
>>>>>>>>>> else had the same problem? Sometimes I have to shut down and restart the
>>>>>>>>>> computer to get it to work again, it never crashes once a movie is showing
>>>>>>>>>> but when I make the selection of a title the screen goes blanc and it just
>>>>>>>>>> stays like that until I close netflix. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
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