Understanding people

LP linuxpusher2 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 2 16:21:16 UTC 2013


Aruna,
Thank you !
You brought tears to my eyes.
You make the world a much better place.
Chris.


On 2 September 2013 12:16, LP <linuxpusher2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
> Can I use this ?
> With or with out your name attached, "your call."
> Thanks
> Chris.
> United Way Volunteer
>
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> On 2 September 2013 11:20, David M. Pelly <david.pelly at hotmail.ca> wrote:
>
>>  Dear Gord, Colin and Aruna , and to whom ever else it may concern,
>>
>> The thread that I initiated has  spurred and  stimulated necessary and
>> beneficial responses, to expose and bring to light the better standards of
>> the people in the group.
>>
>> Any group is only as good as the sum of it's members.
>>
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>>
>>  I thank you all for speaking up, and making yourself known.
>>
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>>
>> The true quality of a person is not determined by social veneer.
>>
>> The true quality of a person is determined when the person is put to the
>> test.
>>
>> The true quality of a person is determined in times of conflict,  and
>> adversity.
>>
>> Do they become part of the solution or part of the problem?
>>
>> The best ways to determine the true quality, the true character, the true
>> colors of a person is to get married to the person, or get into business
>> with the person.
>>
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>>
>> While I prefer not to make this forum  a place to vent or expose
>> personal problems, (as it usually considered ungraceful or something like
>> that)  but at the same time  it is necessary and beneficial for those who
>> are more able,  to understand that there are people who are less able.
>>
>> It is important to know this stuff, no matter in what area.
>>
>> What is wrong with life ( even families and companies)  is often the
>> things that are not talked about.
>>
>> And they do not talk about them because they do not know how to talk
>> about the problem, and are not qualified to to talk about the problem.  And
>> in order to have a meaningful discussion about this subject,  it takes a
>> lot of the right kind of education.  Otherwise the discussion will not be
>> meaningful or constructive. It will actually cause more problems.
>>
>> That is the dilemma  with such a serious and common problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Even though this is going to be off linear , off  topic, I will do it.
>>
>> And I may get scorned for this by some.
>>
>> But life is non linear and every part of life is effected by every other
>> part of life in some way.
>>
>> So there has to be exceptions for every rule.
>>
>> (And everyone deals with children in some way, whether your own or
>> someone else's.  And there is nothing more important than the quality and
>> the sanity of the next generation.  Children are little people. They are
>> the big  people of tomorrow. I say children, and focus this dissertation
>> more for the sake of children,  because I feel more concern for children,
>> than adults.  The most difference can be made with addressing children. )
>>
>> (And this is especially directed to those who are more able and often
>> scorn and scoff at, sneer at, or shun and berate the less able.)
>>
>>
>>
>> (And this is a huge subject and cannot be clearly and fully explained in
>> a forum such as this, but it is so important to know this stuff, that I am
>> going to post a brief summary, regardless of what any one says.)
>>
>>
>>
>> When ever you are working with people,  you always have to take this into
>> consideration.
>>
>> To effectively work with people,  you have to understand people and their
>> minds.
>>
>>
>> This is part of of "people skills".
>>
>> The more you understand this, the more effective you are in every walk of
>> life.
>>
>> And:  You are always "selling"  yourself.
>>
>>
>>
>> Basically we are all only as good as we have been bred and brought up and
>> educated.
>>
>> We are a sum  product of genetics, a conception, and an upbringing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now those of you who are interested in sports, and follow the media,
>> should be well aware of the law suits going on now by  players,   who have
>> received concussions,    are now suing the leagues for hundreds of millions
>> of dollars.
>>
>> Concussions are very similar to child abuse.
>>
>> Concussions and abuse cause brain damage.
>>
>> In plain language these factors cause "stupidity", .......varying and
>> relative degrees of stupidity.
>>
>> Mental malfunction.
>>
>> Simply and succinctly stated,  stupidity is the relative inability to
>> evaluate data.
>>
>> Intelligence is the relative ability to evaluate data.
>>
>> Ignorance is the lack of data to evaluate.
>>
>> Insanity is the relative  inability to determine right from wrong.
>> Impaired judgment. I
>>
>> n the extreme, it is the persistent  desire  to  do wrong.  Those kinds
>> of people are institutionalized  to protect society.
>>
>>
>>
>> Intelligence is effected by the physical structure (organic) make up of
>> the brain.
>>
>> Genetic defects, and damage received in the womb and damage received
>> during and after birth,  effects  the physical ability and speed of the
>> brain to evaluate and process data.
>>
>> (Damage after birth includes verbal abuse, such as being told you are
>> stupid and retarded and the like, especially relentlessly, for yrs.)
>> (Emotional abuse, emotional malnourishment,  and abandonment also disable,
>> break and rot the spirit.)
>>
>>
>>
>> There are 100s or maybe even 1000s of parts to the brain.
>>
>> Scientists are continuously making new discoveries in this area.
>>
>>
>> Because each area of life is controlled by it's own brain  motor, people
>> can be geniuses in some area (s)  and completely stupid in others. And
>> everything in between. That is why you get savants.
>>
>> And often when a part or some parts of the brain are defective or
>> damaged, other parts that are undamaged are often enhanced in ability.
>>
>>
>>
>> And I don't mind discussing my own case, in public,  because I hope I can
>> enlighten people and also hopefully prevent some other children, through
>> you the readers of this post,  from going through what I did.
>>
>> ( And I know very few people know this, that is understand the cause of
>> mental illness and learning disabilities and emotional disorders,  etc. .)
>>
>> I grew up in an extremely abusive, suppressive, stupid, backward and
>> insane home.
>>
>>
>> I was so beat up and traumatized  as a child at home,  that when I was in
>> school,  I had a very difficult time studying and absorbing what the
>> teacher was teaching and was all but totally  unable to read my books and
>> do my homework. My mind was numb from abuse.
>>
>> I was "pushed" through grades in school.
>>
>> The beatings I received caused extreme disorientation and confusion and a
>> host of functional disorders.
>>
>> My brain would not work, much like a very slow  computer at the least,
>> and often like a "frozen computer" in the extreme,  when I get stressed out.
>>
>> (And the garbage in- garbage out factor .)
>>
>> I would  get lost in school every day.
>>
>>  I had a very difficult time,  finding the right class room in the
>> morning and between classes, or finding  the washroom.
>>
>> On real bad days,  I would wonder around the school hallways lost and
>> looking for the right classroom and come late,  and on  real bad days,
>> finally find the right class room,  when the class was over.
>>
>> (Sometimes I would remember to follow someone whom I knew was going to
>> the same class as I was.)
>>
>> If I had to find the washroom,  it would some times  take a half hour to
>> do so, sometimes the duration of the entire class time, on real bad days.
>>
>> And these were small schools.
>>
>> They were about  10 room schools.
>>
>> One school had about a 100 kids and the other had about 300.
>>
>> When I left home at 19,  I was so disoriented from beatings I had a
>> difficult time walking a straight line.
>>
>> And this has been the case all my  life.
>>
>> This is called Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.  (PTSD)
>>
>> There are many types of PTSD.
>>
>> This is also a form of mental illness.
>>
>> I have been in PTSD therapy all my life, in order to survive  this far.
>>
>>
>> Now here is another problem:
>>
>> When people see a physically handi- capped person, (physically disabled)
>> such as a person in a wheel chair, or some one like Steven Hawkins, society
>> goes out of their way to  assist and accommodate  them.
>>
>> They don't beat them or whip them because they cannot walk or run up
>> stairs.
>>
>>
>> But not all disabilities are visible.
>>
>> The brain is an organ or body part and can come (born)  defective, or get
>> damaged or diseased, like any other body part.
>>
>> And the disconcerting or disheartening  thing about this  is that the the
>> average person  does not have any understanding of this (this is called
>> ignorance) and people with mental problems, metal disabilities are usually
>> scoffed at, or scorned at, sneered at  and shunned.  Even physically abused.
>>
>> This is the height of ignorance. It is criminal.
>>
>>
>> I spent my life trying in every way possible to over come the effects of
>> child abuse.
>>
>> That was one of my strong points.
>>
>> I only got my first computer 10 yrs ago when I was 50.
>>
>> It was given to me.
>>
>> I used library, community  and working center computers for  a few yrs
>> before that.
>>
>> Because of the effects of child abuse,  for the most part, I was never
>> really able to hold a job  for longer than a few months to a yr.
>>
>> I have not been able to get married and have a family.
>>
>> I am basically afraid of people.
>>
>> Like a dog who has been severely and repeatedly  beaten.
>>
>> But I have learned to tolerate people for short periods of time, anyways.
>>
>> I have developed pretty good social veneer as a coping skill.
>>
>>
>> And when it comes to computers,  they are not my strong point.
>>
>> I find them overwhelming, beyond web surfing and doing research on line
>> and email.
>>
>> I can usually handle one, two or maybe  three variables.
>>
>> It is all relative  to other effecting factors and the complexity of the
>> variables.
>>
>> But when it comes to situations  beyond that, I get overwhelmed and  my
>> brain slows down, or  shuts down, like a computer with too many programs
>> running.
>>
>> As you all well know,  the  speed and capacity of a computer is
>> determined by the size, capacity  and quality of  it's components.   The
>> brain is very similar.
>>
>> A computer is made  to duplicate the workings of the brain and mind as
>> close as possible.
>>
>> And you all know the evolution of computers, from "the  stick to scratch
>> in the sand" ,  to the abacus, to what we have today.
>>
>>
>> So unless you have experienced such abuse, or concussions or have birth
>> or genetic defects that cause  brain malfunction,  you have no real or
>> meaningful  idea what mental problems  are like.
>>
>>
>> My strong point is that I strive  to   think in terms of  how something
>> can be done, instead of how something can't be done.
>>
>> I identify a problem and then look for the right answers, the right
>> knowledge to solve the problem.
>>
>>
>> I operate on the idea that there is an answer or solution to every
>> problem.
>>
>> I have spent my entire  life in research on how to overcome the effects
>> of abuse and mental illness.
>>
>> Few people would have survived what I did.
>>
>> Relatively speaking, I am far from a fully normal fully competent person,
>> but I am a lot better than I used to be.
>>
>>
>>
>> The purpose of life is to become a master of it, to fulfill your full
>> potential.
>>
>> How do you do that?
>>
>> You identify every problem you have, every defect you have, every
>> disorder you have,  every disease you have,  and find the perfect solution
>> for it.
>>
>> You identify every other type of life problem you have ( outside of
>> yourself ) and find a perfect solution for it. (From relationships to
>> business to what ever else,  to become the best there is in the field.
>>
>> The truth is nothing more or less than the right answer to every problem.
>>
>> Only the truth will solve your problems properly.
>>
>> There is no incurable disorder or disease, there are only incurable
>> people with the wrong attutude.
>>
>> Or people operating on false and limiting knowledge or no knowledge.
>>
>> People fail in any endeavor for only one reason and that is for the lack
>> of the right knowledge to solve the problem at hand.
>>
>> If you have the right knowledge,  you can solve any problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> The biggest room in the world,  is room for improvement.
>>
>> The building of a noble character is job that is never completed.
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>> In hope I have enlightened some people on this list.
>>
>> If anyone wants any more information on this subject,  you can contact me
>> back channel.
>>
>> Because at least 30% of society has some form of mental illness or mental
>> problems.
>>
>> Probably closer to 50%.
>>
>> I have never met a person who, I thought could not use some form of mind
>> improvement.
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>> It is all a matter of degree.
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>> Mental illness by any other name,  is still mental illness.
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>> And there are  almost as many types of mental illness as there are people.
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>> The best science can do is categorize them.
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>> And I am sure there is a cure for every type.
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>> But this field is still in it's infancy.
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>> Have a great day,
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