Thunderbird mail

Doug Penner darwinsurvivor at
Sun Aug 18 21:54:30 UTC 2013

Thunderbird does use more ram and processor than webmail. What I was
specifically referring to was the actual interface response (not
heavy CPU stuff like searching). When I click on another folder, it
just appears, I don't have to wait for a bunch of handshakes to take
place and re-download a page's work of stuff to look at because the
computer already has all of the information it needs.

My mother uses Thunderbird to manage 8+ email accounts with a mix of
IMAP and POP3 (she runs a business and does volunteer work, so has
collected quite a few addresses). While you can definitely tell it's
using more than its share of resources, it's sill fully usable on her
5+ year old netbook with less ram than most modern graphics cards.

I feel your pain though and personally use Alpine for my everyday stuff
(and Thunderbird when I'm forced to read a heavily-formatted email).

I haven't seen any issues with Thunderbird when using lots of big
accounts (see the example above), though it will make the searching

Keep in mind that my original list was in response to "Thunderbird vs
Webmail", so yes Mutt can do (most) of the things Thunderbird can, but
then so can Outlook :P

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Ralph Janke wrote:

> Well, I have to say that thunderbird works only for small e-mail
> accounts. I cannot run thunderbird without it crashing any of my
> computers, due to overheating them or just plainly freezing them
> because of i/o and cpu overuse.
> It is not understandable for me (working 30+ years in IT), why
> there is the attempt for the client to be also the server and
> do all the indexing and searching. IHO e-mail needs a total rethink,
> also because it is not safe in regards of spying and gives
> businesses very little possibility to protect their IP and
> trade secrets from third parties.
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 06:51:56AM -0700, Doug Penner wrote:
>> There are many reasons to use Thunderbird (or any other remote
>> client for that matter)
>> - Faster (more responsive)
> As mentioned above, not at all. I am using mutt in order to have
> any kind of response with my e-mail accounts
>> - Multiple accounts in 1 interface
> In theory, but when there are too many and they are too big
> it is absolutely unusable
>> - Better searching (yes, it IS better than gmail's!)
> I would not say that gmail is a better solution, because
> of security concerns mainly
>> - Supports PGP with a simple addons
>> - Did I mention addons?!?
> Got tired of addons because they often do not work in the version
> used or stop working after upgrade
>> - Multiple window/tab support
> mutt can do the same.. multiple terminal windows and tabs :-D
>> - Better and configurable shortcuts
>> - More settings that can be changed
>> - Multiple signature/identity support
>> - Works better over slow connections (ONLY the email goes over the network)
>> - Respects your computers theme/layout (high-contrast, etc)
>> - Proper import/export and email saving functions
>> - Inline attachment viewing (just keep scrolling...)
>> - WAY more themes to chose from
>> That's my 2 minute top-of-my-head list, I'm sure I've missed a lot of
>> them.
> The problem with a lot of the mozilla products (and chrome too) is
> that they are build as if they are operating systems in themselves and
> hence there is not a lot of sharting of libraries especially in memory.
> I rather have a good OS do that kind of thing then a badly done browser/
> email client
> Just my two cents
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, raymond wrote:
>>> Hi all, why use thunderbird mail? It is only duplicating what I
>>> get through my gmail account (in my case).And it's slower at start
>>> up because it must get the mail info from my other mail accounts.I
>>> know that it stores my mail in my computer, is that it's sole
>>> purpose? It seems like a lot of duplication to me, can anyone
>>> clear this up for me,  Thanks.
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