Quick poll: Province teams

Darcy Casselman dscassel at gmail.com
Tue Nov 1 03:58:51 UTC 2011

The question is mostly directed at those outside Ontario and Quebec
(and the city of Vancouver), places where there is currently LoCo
activities.  Although knowing that someone would feel more willing to
contribute to an Ubuntu Ontario than Ubuntu Canada is useful

What I want to know is whether anyone feels that the existence of an
Ubuntu Canada is keeping them from initiating activity in their
province, even a little bit.  Ie., would they feel more motivated
starting an Alberta or Nova Scotia team than joining Ubuntu Canada and
working to build the community in your town?

This will be on the agenda for tomorrow's (Tuesday's) IRC meeting.
8pm EDT in #ubuntu-ca.


On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Phil Woodland <phil.woodland at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Bob hit that nail on the head.
> Splitting up the group into provinces is just adding another layer... but to
> what end? The main idea is to have local (LoCo) groups, yes? You could make
> any hierarchy I suppose from local to national, but I think the end result
> would be the same. Would it be neat to have an Ontario group and everyone
> attempt to get together? Absolutely... but I don't think that
> wouldn't/couldn't happen with the way that things are now (so long as the
> LoCo groups are keeping up on the latest news/events and organizing a
> little).
> Maybe the problem isn't the lack of smaller groups, but the lack of
> communication?
> Having said that, I'm sure that it's a bit of a burden on you, Darcy, and if
> you would like to alleviate some of the responsibility (nationally), I don't
> see any detriments nor advantages to the change.
> Thanks
> Phil
> On 11-10-31 08:13 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
>> I'd probably contribute about the same with a provincial team.  For me
>> that's some involvement on the mailing list, IRC and maybe the Wiki or
>> Web site.  Doesn't matter where the Loco is based, it's all done from my
>> desk.
>> But it makes a difference for local events.  If there's a Canada-wide
>> meetup then there's only a fractional chance I'll participate, but if
>> there's a local event I'm usually in.  So, the smaller the geographic
>> catchement, the more likely I'd attend an event.  With a provincial team
>> participation is more likely than with a national team but less likely
>> than with a local team.
>> Here in Kitchener Waterloo we have a strong local group, so that keeps
>> interest up, even for national or global events, but that's because we
>> meet locally for those national and global events.  Having the "home
>> team" as a provincial team instead of a national team wouldn't make much
>> difference.
>> I'd keep the national team, and concentrate on getting people doing
>> local events (Ubuntu Hours, release parties, jams, hackathons,&c.)
>> All politics is local, and so are LUGs.
>> --Bob.
>> On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 19:41 -0400, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>> If Ubuntu Canada were to split into province teams, would you be more
>>> likely to step up and build a team to ensure your province had
>>> representation in the Ubuntu community?  Or would you feel less
>>> willing to contribute since there's nothing to contribute to without
>>> starting a team?
>>> This was something we discussed at the LoCo Council planning meeting
>>> at UDS today.
>>> I don't really want to get into the hypothetical merits of a national
>>> team versus provincial teams.  I just want to know if any actual
>>> individuals would be more or less likely to contribute.
>>> Darcy.
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