To the very smart person that Torpedoed all my Linux Installations..

Sun Jun 13 22:18:28 UTC 2010

This seems like an interesting start for a mailing list that was dead until a couple of weeks ago... lol

Here's my 2 cents:

1- Alfred: It was probably Bill Gates on an attempt to get you back to Windows. Big brother is watching!! 
2- This is an Ubuntu technical list, let's try to keep more interesting technical topics alive and pay less attention this type of messages
3- Moderator, were are you?

Cheers!

Victor Mendonça
http://wazem.org/

----- Original Message ----
From: Phil Woodland <phil.woodland at gmail.com>
To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 5:48:16 PM
Subject: Re: To the very smart person that Torpedoed all my Linux Installations..

On Sunday, June 13, 2010 05:19:54 pm Matthew Delaney wrote:
> Phil, I don't think you are responsible for this in any way and I think
> it's good to introduce yourself to the people on the list. :-) I think the
> bottom line is, we all need to keep in mind the terms of use of this
> mailing list and act responsibly. I'm all for answering questions/helping
> people on the list; however, e-mails such as the one Alfred posted are
> just uncalled for.
> 
> Alfred, if you want/need advice on good (secure) sources to obtain software
> from and/or help with securing your system I'm sure that most people on
> this list would be more than happy to help or at least point you in the
> right direction. I'm sure we've all had system failures where some
> important data was lost and the only thing I can suggest is backup
> everything important (if its really important back that data up in
> multiple locations).
> 
> Just my opinion ;-)
>     `Matt
> 
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Phil Woodland 
<phil.woodland at gmail.com>wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 13, 2010 04:06:04 pm James wrote:
> > > alfred seriously tl;dr ... learn to write e-mails not novels...also do
> > 
> > not
> > 
> > > accuse ppl on the list
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:42 AM, alfred <alfred.s at nexicom.net> wrote:
> > > > Boy are you ever smart! It could be anyone, someone on the list
> > 
> > perhaps,
> > 
> > > > and are you ever good at hiding your tracks, quite frankly I don't
> > > > know anything about the methods used to try to find out whom you
> > > > are. You destroyed all my Files and all my Backup files, and made it
> > > > so I can't use Ubuntu on the Internet. Lots of people just like you
> > > > teach me these real Nasty Lessons, all my life! I have no Idea at
> > > > all just what lesson it was that you were teaching!
> > > > 
> > > > Well from my experience, I don't have to know, whom you are, I don't
> > > > have to spend money to try to find what rock you are hiding under, or
> > > > what hole you are hiding in. Why, well I noticed over time that
> > > > people that teach me lessons the way you have, have a nasty habit of
> > > > getting very sick, and a nasty habit of just Dropping Dead. See
> > > > every day anything you do, like breathing, well you get some oxygen,
> > > > and also spores, and air borne bacteria, and all kinds of other not
> > > > too good things. Anything you eat, is covered with Microbes,
> > > > anything you touch is covered by Microbes, and most people have
> > > > defenses for all, these things, so the viruses you pick up every
> > > > day, stay dormant inside you, and don't bother you at all. Any other
> > > > person might get a few sniffles that last for an hour, but that is
> > > > the extent of it. However someone that teaches me a lesson or does
> > > > something to someone that they know they should not do, this sort of
> > > > cripples their Immune System, to some degree. I've seen it over and
> > > > over and over again from people teaching me lessons, like you have.
> > > > Without my help, quite likely the Viruses, you ingest everyday, and
> > > > your crippled Immune System, will make you
> > 
> > just
> > 
> > > > like my Ubuntu Linux System that you Torpedoed! Completely Dead!
> > > > 
> > > > I got interested years ago, in How Gut Disease Works, and one of the
> > > > files you destroyed was 18 years of research into how some of the
> > > > most Nasty Gut diseases work, and how to fix them without Drugs.
> > > > That's what you Torpedoed! Yes Crohn's People can be in great
> > > > amounts of pain, so much pain that you if you had this would be
> > > > thinking of ending it each and every minute, you are awake! Yes
> > > > Crohn's people are some of the
> > 
> > most
> > 
> > > > Nasty People around, Trouble is Mr. Smarty Pants that I forget things
> > > > pretty rapidly. Many of the people that taught me Nasty Lessons were
> > > > People that got Crohn's Disease, in a few years time. I don't have to
> > > > lift a finger at all, to do anything, to fight back, against your
> > > > lesson. Your so smart knowing all about Viruses, but then you know
> > > > NOTHING, and you are teaching Me a NASTY LESSON. Well in an
> > 
> > undetermined
> > 
> > > > amount of time, chances are real good that that Lesson you taught me,
> > > > will come around, back to you, and you then will be fending on your
> > > > own against all those microbes, that you come in contact with each
> > > > and
> > 
> > every
> > 
> > > > day! Mr. Smarty Pants; you don't know anything at all! I reserve this
> > > > only for people that actually get me real PISSED OFF- "It's been Nice
> > > > Knowing You.  You're are on your own now"! That is the lesson you
> > > > will be learning! It's best to be my Best Friend, then there might
> > > > be a very small scrap of hope left for you!
> > > > 
> > > > My Old Man used to beat me up all the time, and I began to notice,
> > > > that the cancer he had, would go out of remission, very soon after
> > > > each time he taught me some lesson like that. I very rarely ever
> > > > make an effort
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > > fight Back or get very upset, with things like this, these things
> > > > have
> > 
> > a
> > 
> > > > way of fixing them selves. For any of you thinking that I'm some easy
> > > > target, you are just as much a target as I am, best you find someone
> > > > else to target!
> > > > 
> > > > Alfred!
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > ubuntu-ca mailing list
> > > > ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca
> > 
> > Okay...... I feel somewhat responsible for this, even though I was just
> > introducing myself and keep in mind that this is all my point of view
> > and, since I don't know any of you, I would like to think I'm pretty
> > well un- biased.
> > 
> > So, Alfred:
> > I'm not sure what happened.... I haven't seen anything on this list that
> > would
> > cause any sort of system failure and/or corruption, even if you cut and
> > pasted
> > e-mails from the list. Possibly there was something on the side that I am
> > not
> > aware of (private e-mails, IRC, forums, ???) ? Or possibly some
> > coincidental
> > circumstance which coincided with this exchange?
> > 
> > And James:
> > "alfred seriously tl;dr ... learn to write e-mails not novels...also do
> > not accuse ppl on the list"
> > I can appreciate the "also do not accuse ppl on the list" part, but there
> > is
> > no need to be condescending when you say "learn to write e-mails not
> > novels".
> > How is that productive in any way, shape, or form? Poking fun at someone
> > that
> > isn't up on short-form is not tactful and, to be honest, I had no idea
> > what you were talking about.
> > Also about writing "novels"... that usually insinuates that the person is
> > quite passionate about the topic and great care and thought should be
> > taken in
> > a response as such.
> > 
> > I am not trying to start some sort of war/debate/fight here. I am just
> > putting
> > out my point of view and hoping it doesn't fall on deaf ears. :)
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Phil
> > 
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> > ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
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Matt:

I honestly don't believe I was the cause of this, it was just an odd 
coincidence :P 

I was just more-or-less pointing out a couple of things that I thought needed 
pointing out... mainly a) Tactfulness, b) Courteousness, and c)a general 
understanding.

If I hadn't been 'listening in' for a few weeks on this mailing list, and 
suddenly came across this thread.... I would never have responded to this 
mailing list.

Many people forget that this mailing-list is a representation of, not only 
themselves, but the community in which (I assume) they are trying to support. 
If I were to look up Ubuntu Canada (being an unsure user) I might back away 
not only from participating in this mailing-list, but from Ubuntu and possibly 
Linux in general?

Ok, that may be extreme, but it's a reminder to do a check before you hit send 
:)

Cheers,
Phil 

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