Laptop nfs
Glen Merrick
gmerrick at chebucto.ns.ca
Wed Jun 17 11:18:59 UTC 2009
You can setup locations using the network manager. Through this you
should be able to automount an nfs share if you were to powerup the
laptop on that network.
Your best bet is to create that share in a sub directory in user
space. You will need to let users know that of they store stuff in
that sir when not connected, that they will not see the data when the
share is active.
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> 6. Re: Competition Act (Darryl Moore)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:37:36 -0400
> From: Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca>
> Subject: Competition Act
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4A37A020.10104 at moores.ca>
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> Hi List. It's me again. I'm sure the following will have many who do
> not
> deeply consider business law or who grudgingly accept the status quo,
> rolling their eyes at my suggestion. None the less. Here goes.
>
>
> As I've indicated here before, I am trying to build a full featured
> native Linux network for businesses. One of the difficulties I will
> have
> in selling such a network, obviously, is the dominance of Microsoft
> operating systems. Note the following.
>
> (1) Because of their virtual monopoly, just about all companies will
> have at least one software package that can only run under windows.
>
> (2) Many small companies use only the version of windows that came on
> the machine when purchased.
>
> (3) Due to MS market dominance, MS can insist upon payments from OEMs
> for their software, and third party software vendors are willing to
> pay
> to have their MSWin compatible software included in OEM machines. The
> net result is that the cost of windows on a OEM machine is effectively
> negative, as can be witnessed when doing online price comparisons.
>
> (4) MS EULA prohibits the insertion of virtual machine software
> between
> the physical hardware and the operating system on low end OEM supplied
> operating systems. This effectively eliminates the ability for Linux
> (or
> other OSes) to compete (see point 1)
>
>
> The last point I believe meets the definition of tied selling under
> the
> competition act
>
> 77. (1) For the purposes of this section, "tied selling" means
> (a) any practice whereby a supplier of a product, as a condition of
> supplying the product (the "tying" product) to a customer, requires
> that
> customer to
> (ii) refrain from using or distributing, in conjunction with the tying
> product, another product that is not of a brand or manufacture
> designated by the supplier or the nominee, and
>
> In this case customers are being prohibited from using Linux and
> virtual
> machine software in a reasonable way with the Windows operating system
> they purchased. The prohibition of installing Linux and running the
> supplied Windows operating system inside linux on the same machine has
> the effect of significantly reducing the appeal of linux.
>
> The MS EULA conveniently redefines hardware to include a software
> environment provided by VM software. I do not believe this is valid.
> It
> is an effective prohibition on using VM software and alternate
> operating
> systems contrary to section 77(1)(ii). It is no different really than
> specifying that MS windows cannot be used with Norton AV for example,
> which would be an obvious violation.
>
> section 79 of the act states that a dominant company that engages in
> this practice and negatively affects the market is in violation of
> the act.
>
> I want to lodge a complaint with the Competition Bureau to this
> effect,
> but I need 5 other people to sign it.
>
> If anyone else here agrees with the above and wants to participate
> please reply either privately or in this list.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Darryl Moore
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:48:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Timothy Webster <tdwebste2 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: tracking logged in users
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Is running who and last on each remote machine any use to you?
>
> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca> wrote:
>
>> From: Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca>
>> Subject: tracking logged in users
>> To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-
>> ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 8:34 PM
>> Does anybody here know if there is
>> any easy way to track what users are
>> logged in on what machines in a Linux network environment?
>> Anyway for
>> example, to get OpenLDAP to update a database of users as
>> they log in.
>>
>> The alternative is probably to either use some puppet or
>> cron scripts to
>> send the information back to a central database. I just
>> don't know if
>> this is the best way.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> darryl
>> (I'm still thinking about the laptop NFS problem too.
>> Think, think,
>> think....)
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:55:20 -0400
> From: Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca>
> Subject: Re: tracking logged in users
> To: tdwebste2 at yahoo.com, The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community
> <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Well yeah, but I was hoping for something that would be a little more
> centralized. Perhaps integrated into the authentication system. But I
> suppose these programs with some puppet manifests will have to do.
> Thanks.
>
> Timothy Webster wrote:
>> Is running who and last on each remote machine any use to you?
>>
>> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From: Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca>
>>> Subject: tracking logged in users
>>> To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> >
>>> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 8:34 PM
>>> Does anybody here know if there is
>>> any easy way to track what users are
>>> logged in on what machines in a Linux network environment?
>>> Anyway for
>>> example, to get OpenLDAP to update a database of users as
>>> they log in.
>>>
>>> The alternative is probably to either use some puppet or
>>> cron scripts to
>>> send the information back to a central database. I just
>>> don't know if
>>> this is the best way.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> darryl
>>> (I'm still thinking about the laptop NFS problem too.
>>> Think, think,
>>> think....)
>>>
>>> --
>>> ubuntu-ca mailing list
>>> ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca
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>>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:56:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Timothy Webster <tdwebste2 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: NFS mount issue
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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>
> google automount user homes
>
> This does not require a union fs. Do you want to overlay the network
> home directory over to the local home directory?
>
> I did that in the past, but found it didn't work well for
> disconnected usage. Now I stuff all the files I want to share into
> git and sync up on changes.
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca> wrote:
>
>> From: Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca>
>> Subject: Re: NFS mount issue
>> To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-
>> ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 6:01 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm building the script to do this and one thing occurs
>> to me. What
>> about when someone who does not have a local account on the
>> laptop
>> tries to log in? The machine will let them log in, but will
>> not be able
>> to find their home directory.
>>
>>
>>
>> A union mount might be interesting, but you'd want (rw)
>> on the local
>> home for users with local logon and (rw) to be on the
>> network home for
>> other users. So I don't think this will work. sigh.
>> There should be a
>> way to do this.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Darryl Moore wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, I'm beginning to agree with you. It really
>> becomes an issue with
>> suspend and then waking up to a new home directory. It
>> could cause a bit
>> of havic with open gnome, firefox, and OOo files in the
>> home directory.
>> And other too. Doing a quick lsof shows a lot of .* files
>> open in the
>> home directory. For that reason I don't think even
>> what you suggest
>> below will work either.
>>
>> I guess what I should do is simply mount the NFS home
>> directory in
>> /media so it shows up in nautilus, run rsync periodically
>> & during
>> suspend/log off, but still use autofs so that I can shed
>> the NFS mount
>> easily when the network context has changed.
>>
>> mcr at simtone.net
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So, basically, their laptop has a local
>> /home/user which is read-only
>> to the user. That /home/user gets it's .* files copied
>> from the network
>> /home/user/.* on a regular basis, with perhaps a final
>> rsync during
>> shutdown/suspend. When on the road, the user can not
>> change their
>> settings, but they can edit any documents in "local
>> documents"
>>
>> To make the /home/user read-only to the user, I suggest
>> that you have
>> /real/home as writable, and then use a bind mount with -ro
>> to mount
>> it. I think you can do this with the latest kernels.
>>
>>>> It will confuse users and piss them off
>> because they won't be
>>>> able to find things.
>>
>> Darryl> That is an interesting comment, because part
>> of the goal was
>> Darryl> to make things easier to find.
>>
>> Disconnected nomadic computing is hard, because users
>> want things to work, and
>> get pissed off if you prevent them from getting their work
>> done.
>> There are some really neat things in NFSv4 that help: but
>> I don't know
>> if they are implemented in linux yet.
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:47:40 -0400
> From: mcr at simtone.net
> Subject: Re: Competition Act
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20090616144728.358533D249 at navajo.ottawa.xdsinc.net>
>
>
> File away!
>
> A problem with the Canadian competition bureau is that themselves
> procured MS software without proper RFPs!!!
> A second problem is that they won't disclose who they are
> investigating,
> so it's hard to actually accumulate evidence! And if they don't get
> multiple complaints, they don't investigate...
>
> Russell can say more.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:14:18 -0400
> From: Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca>
> Subject: Re: Competition Act
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <4A37B6CA.8090306 at moores.ca>
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> Thanks Michael. I do recall Russell's stories of his interactions with
> the bureau several years ago.
>
> WRT not investigating without multiple complaints. It does make
> complaining seem futile, but at the same time makes it that much more
> important that the complaints be filed. I do not believe it costs
> anything to file a complaint. It just requires 6 signatures. So
> there is
> really nothing to lose.
>
> We all know the bureau to be rather ineffective. While both the US and
> EU where able to make anti-competitive rulings against MS, our
> competition bureau has done nothing.
>
> Perhaps a few access to information requests regarding previous
> related
> complaints would be a good way to go in terms of getting information
> out
> of them.
>
> Previously MS has been criticized for their browser or media player
> bundling. My complaint is markedly different. While regulated under
> the
> same section of the act, I am complaining about a blatant
> restriction on
> what software may be used with their software.
>
> The previous complaints only directly affected other big, and foreign,
> companies. The core of my complaint affect system integrators and of
> all
> sizes in Canada. As such, I think it is possible that it will have a
> bit
> more traction within the bureau.
>
> cheers,
> darryl
>
> mcr at simtone.net wrote:
>> File away!
>>
>> A problem with the Canadian competition bureau is that themselves
>> procured MS software without proper RFPs!!!
>> A second problem is that they won't disclose who they are
>> investigating,
>> so it's hard to actually accumulate evidence! And if they don't get
>> multiple complaints, they don't investigate...
>>
>> Russell can say more.
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kenneth Hawkins <kjurkic at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Competition Act
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <648629.44532.qm at web34504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> count me in to sign
>
> Ken
>
> GATES
> SATAN
> same number of letters. Coincidence?! I think not....
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Darryl Moore <darryl at moores.ca>
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:37:36 AM
> Subject: Competition Act
>
> Hi List. It's me again. I'm sure the following will have many who do
> not
> deeply consider business law or who grudgingly accept the status quo,
> rolling their eyes at my suggestion. None the less. Here goes.
>
>
> As I've indicated here before, I am trying to build a full featured
> native Linux network for businesses. One of the difficulties I will
> have
> in selling such a network, obviously, is the dominance of Microsoft
> operating systems. Note the following.
>
> (1) Because of their virtual monopoly, just about all companies will
> have at least one software package that can only run under windows.
>
> (2) Many small companies use only the version of windows that came on
> the machine when purchased.
>
> (3) Due to MS market dominance, MS can insist upon payments from OEMs
> for their software, and third party software vendors are willing to
> pay
> to have their MSWin compatible software included in OEM machines. The
> net result is that the cost of windows on a OEM machine is effectively
> negative, as can be witnessed when doing online price comparisons.
>
> (4) MS EULA prohibits the insertion of virtual machine software
> between
> the physical hardware and the operating system on low end OEM supplied
> operating systems. This effectively eliminates the ability for Linux
> (or
> other OSes) to compete (see point 1)
>
>
> The last point I believe meets the definition of tied selling under
> the
> competition act
>
> 77. (1) For the purposes of this section, "tied selling" means
> (a) any practice whereby a supplier of a product, as a condition of
> supplying the product (the "tying" product) to a customer, requires
> that
> customer to
> (ii) refrain from using or distributing, in conjunction with the tying
> product, another product that is not of a brand or manufacture
> designated by the supplier or the nominee, and
>
> In this case customers are being prohibited from using Linux and
> virtual
> machine software in a reasonable way with the Windows operating system
> they purchased. The prohibition of installing Linux and running the
> supplied Windows operating system inside linux on the same machine has
> the effect of significantly reducing the appeal of linux.
>
> The MS EULA conveniently redefines hardware to include a software
> environment provided by VM software. I do not believe this is valid.
> It
> is an effective prohibition on using VM software and alternate
> operating
> systems contrary to section 77(1)(ii). It is no different really than
> specifying that MS windows cannot be used with Norton AV for example,
> which would be an obvious violation.
>
> section 79 of the act states that a dominant company that engages in
> this practice and negatively affects the market is in violation of
> the act.
>
> I want to lodge a complaint with the Competition Bureau to this
> effect,
> but I need 5 other people to sign it.
>
> If anyone else here agrees with the above and wants to participate
> please reply either privately or in this list.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Darryl Moore
>
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