Remix Mono and Windows

[Mr. C clark]

I tried 4 times to post no luck

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:19:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Remix Mono and Windows
From: tom.mckay1 at gmail.com
To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com

This is ridiculous and fear mongering. Can we overlook the fact that microsoft conceptualized C# and see things for how they really  are? EVERYTHING has a patent, including FOSS concepts. Where the line of legality is depends on the license. Here, we have the GPL, among others, which extend very defined and specific rights to those who use the patented software. What microsoft has done with C# was to "license" the C# patents by standardizing the language and by issuing an irrevocable promise not to claim action against those who use C#. Having a patent is great, but when you give away your angle to capitalize on it, it is simply symbolic.

All this fuss is simply ill-conceived by folks who believe (validly or not), that microsoft is hell-bent on destroying open source software. Is it not possible for microsoft to contribute something as well? Perhaps they developed it to make it easier for developers to implement multi platform software, and that their intentions were completely selfish. The issue I believe most nay-sayers have with mono is that it breaks down the exclusivity of linux applications, diminishing the heft needed to convert people.

I would say quite a few must have applications in linux are mono based, and it scares the trolls half to death. The worst case scenario I can think of involve a new edition of C#'s license changing (ie the promise does not apply). Even then, all of us over here at linux would be free to continue developing mono in a parallel white room or as a fork, because the promise would still apply.

Take this however you may, but linux would not be what it is today without microsoft.
I don't believe the original author has done anybody any services by scaring the less-informed users on this mailing list. Mono is NOT a virus, a trojan, or any other malware, it is completely benign, save for a theoretical future legal hassle (of no consequence to you, keep using the software you enjoy until that day comes, if it does at all, maybe).
Tom McKay



2009/7/22 Mr. C clark <c_dive at hotmail.com>






I did a fresh install of remix on my msi wind net book.
I transfered some files pics docs etc on flash drives back to my net book documents.
Then the next time I stared my netbook I had a blank page Ubuntu swirl background with 1 picture file on the desktop.

No menus buttons nothing, Powered off.
When I used the Recover option during boot which did not fix the problem: I noticed the words System  Virus.
Unfortunately I deleted the pic of the text after it was sent to bglug.

Chris.

> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:59:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: Remix Mono and Windows
> From: dylanmccall at gmail.com

> To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> Chris, what do you mean by misbehaving? We'll need more information than that.

> 
> Mono is not a virus or an evil back-door. Mono is a development /
> runtime environment based on (and compatible with) Microsoft's .Net.
> .Net is largely funded and owned by Microsoft (I should stress that

> this is in the same way the stacked window metaphor is). Mono is a
> neat environment for building software, so there are many free
> software developers who prefer it. You will notice, for example, that

> F-Spot uses Mono, as does Banshee and Tomboy.
> The benefit to Mono over .Net is that it is free, it is lighter
> (anecdotal, sorry), it supports static compiling (without the VM) and
> it is cross platform. That is, Mono apps have run on Linux, MacOS,

> Windows, the iPhone, Maemo and beyond :)
> 
> There is some concern surrounding Mono due to the fact that it is
> based on a technology developed by the evil, one-dimensional Microsoft
> ؟

> 
> Some people feel that Microsoft could sue Linux vendors for
> distributing Mono, as they continually threaten how free software
> infringes on patents.
> 
> Personally, I for one feel this is unlikely to happen due to the fact

> that they have released a patent protection promise of sorts, and
> otherwise because we have big companies relying on Mono for major
> products. My favourite example of late is Electronic Arts with The

> Sims 3. If Microsoft started attacking Mono users, they would find
> themselves up against one pretty enormous company.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Dylan
> 
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