Hello World
JohnD
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Mon Feb 18 22:42:23 UTC 2008
Welcome Eugene,
I just googled Annapolis Valley, and you live in Paradise!
/Wishes GTA/Toronto was even 1/2 as nice.
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> 1. Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant) (Myles Braithwaite)
> 2. Hello world!! (Eugene Cormier)
> 3. Re: Hello world!! (Corey Burger)
> 4. Re: Hello world!! (Dennis d'Entremont)
> 5. Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant) (Kip Warner)
> 6. Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant) (mcr at xdsinc.net)
> 7. Re: Hello world!! (Darren Zawislak)
> 8. Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant) (Kip Warner)
> 9. Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant) (Evan Leibovitch)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:30:17 -0500
> From: Myles Braithwaite <myles at monkeyinyoursoul.com>
> Subject: Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant)
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <47B9B299.5010103 at monkeyinyoursoul.com>
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> There is MacPorts <http://www.macports.org/> and Fink
> <http://www.finkproject.org/> which both server as a package manager.
> Also Apple has shared back with the community, like WebKit
> <http://webkit.org/> which is now the html engine of Konqueror.
>
> MacPorts is based off of BSD ports.
> Fink is based off apt.
>
> Kip Warner wrote:
> > <rant>
> >
> > So after being rather pissed last night when I realized how much GPL
> > software, e.g. GDB, had been stolen from the community without the
> > modifications ever being made available back to the community, something
> > occurred to me. And no, it wasn't how many countless hours as a
> > developer I had wasted trying to get something to build on a platform
> > made by company who claims to "Think Different", but never occurred to
> > them that their shitty NeXT / BSD rip of an OS still doesn't even have a
> > package manager and never will. No, it was that Steve Jobs is the Benny
> > Hinn of the proprietary software vendors.
> >
> > </rant>
> >
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>
> - --
> Myles Braithwaite
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:39:56 -0400
> From: Eugene Cormier <eugene.cormier at gmail.com>
> Subject: Hello world!!
> To: ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <1203352796.6263.26.camel at eugenes-laptop>
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> Hey all just wanted to put out a quick Hello, I am an Ubuntu user since
> Breezy, living in the annapolis valley.....and I saw this mailing list
> on planet ubuntu this morning and decided to sign up
>
> Eugene
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:44:37 -0800
> From: "Corey Burger" <corey.burger at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Hello world!!
> To: eugene.cormier at gmail.com, "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community"
> <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Eugene Cormier
> <eugene.cormier at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey all just wanted to put out a quick Hello, I am an Ubuntu user since
> > Breezy, living in the annapolis valley.....and I saw this mailing list
> > on planet ubuntu this morning and decided to sign up
> >
> > Eugene
>
> Welcome. Always nice to see more East Coasters (even if I am a West
> Coaster myself)
>
> Corey
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:21:01 -0400
> From: "Dennis d'Entremont" <dennis.dentremont at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Hello world!!
> To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Feb 18, 2008 12:44 PM, Corey Burger <corey.burger at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Eugene Cormier
> > <eugene.cormier at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey all just wanted to put out a quick Hello, I am an Ubuntu user
> since
> > > Breezy, living in the annapolis valley.....and I saw this mailing
> list
> > > on planet ubuntu this morning and decided to sign up
> > >
> > > Eugene
> >
>
> Welcome Eugene! I'm just up the street in Halifax ;)
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:25:42 -0800
> From: Kip Warner <kip at thevertigo.com>
> Subject: Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant)
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <1203362742.7210.13.camel at kip-laptop>
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> On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 11:30 -0500, Myles Braithwaite wrote:
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> > There is MacPorts <http://www.macports.org/> and Fink
> > <http://www.finkproject.org/> which both server as a package manager.
> > Also Apple has shared back with the community, like WebKit
> > <http://webkit.org/> which is now the html engine of Konqueror.
> >
> > MacPorts is based off of BSD ports.
> > Fink is based off apt.
>
> Have you used Fink lately? It is a truly earnest contribution, but we
> both know that neither MacPorts nor Fink are a result of Apple's direct
> work. They are both hack jobs that have been jerry rigged to get the
> platform to appear debian like at a superficial level. Of course, it
> isn't actually and as a developer, I am frequently reminded of this with
> conflicts in its ability to respect the File Hierarchy Standard since
> Apple had no problems violating it right, left, and centre. MacPorts is
> no better. Neither one of them even support universal binaries for their
> packages. MacPorts has gotten a bit better by having some available, but
> nowhere near enough for a developer like myself to actually be able to
> tell their clients that they can be comfortable knowing Tiger, Leopard
> and both under PPC and Intel architectures will be available. I need
> things like a recent wxMac release, scons, OpenCV, and so on. The system
> is a complete mess and it can't be cleaned up because Apple is in the
> way.
>
> As for Konqueror, the controversy surrounding Apple's affiliation is
> well known. WebKit was a fork of the community's work and granted the
> community did get the source made available, there are exceptions. Like
> try getting the source to Safari, which was ripped from Konqueror (GPL
> software).
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> Kip Warner -- Software Engineer
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:14:57 -0500
> From: mcr at xdsinc.net
> Subject: Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant)
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <mailman.20969.1203371994.2576.ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> >>>>> "Kip" == Kip Warner <kip at thevertigo.com> writes:
> Kip> As for the evidence, it's all over the place. Maybe mine is
> Kip> just out of date, but the last time I tried building GDB as one
> Kip> example under OS X (since the one that ships with XCode is old
> Kip> and doesn't come with gdbserver), there was no Darwin
> Kip> target. GDB is licensed under the GNU Public License, and since
> Kip> the XCode version is clearly GDB and is running under Darwin,
> Kip> it's obvious that mainline was not patched with their
>
> Apple made their patches available, it's all out there, and you can
> download it and build it. But, maybe the code was crap and the gdb
> maintainers turned the code down as being crap.
>
> GPL gives you the right to innovate and to share.
> It doesn't give you the right to have your contributions accepted.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:19:29 -0600
> From: "Darren Zawislak" <hi.darren at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Hello world!!
> To: eugene.cormier at gmail.com, "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community"
> <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Hello Eugene,
>
> Welcome aboard! I am in Winnipeg.
>
> Darren
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 10:39 AM, Eugene Cormier <eugene.cormier at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey all just wanted to put out a quick Hello, I am an Ubuntu user since
> > Breezy, living in the annapolis valley.....and I saw this mailing list
> > on planet ubuntu this morning and decided to sign up
> >
> > Eugene
> > --
> > ****************************************
> > * Eugene Cormier *
> > * Acadia University *
> > * www.eugenecormier.com *
> > * eugene.cormier at gmail.com *
> > * DEN 152, (902) 585-1329 *
> > * Classical Guitar, Guitar Class, *
> > * Guitar Ensemble, Prelim. Rud. *
> > ****************************************
> >
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:29:28 -0800
> From: Kip Warner <kip at thevertigo.com>
> Subject: Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant)
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 16:14 -0500, mcr at xdsinc.net wrote:
> > Apple made their patches available, it's all out there, and you can
> > download it and build it. But, maybe the code was crap and the gdb
> > maintainers turned the code down as being crap.
> >
>
> I would be very interested in seeing these supposed patches. And just as
> interestingly, I'd like you to show me where, if at all, these patches
> have been applied to mainline...
>
> http://sourceware.org/gdb/current/
>
> > GPL gives you the right to innovate and to share.
> > It doesn't give you the right to have your contributions accepted.
>
> Right. It gives you the right to share. But if you take what others have
> shared with you under the GPL, and you modify it, you have to share
> those changes back.
>
> --
> Kip Warner -- Software Engineer
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:59:36 -0500
> From: Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
> Subject: Re: Steve Jobs and Benny Hinn (rant)
> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Back in 2001, I wrote an article calling Apple "Open Source's Black
> Hole", where code went in but none came out.
>
> Here's a pointer at
> http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-05-02-012-20-OP-BD
> but I think ZDNet may have nuked the original or hidden it behind a
> subscription barrier.
>
> This reaction, that I was spreading anti-Apple FUD, was the politest
> answer.
>
> http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2001/05/zdnet_spreading_fud_about_appl.html
>
> The rest was mainly hate mail.
>
> Little has changed.
>
> - Evan
>
>
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