Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900

Az alt69 at rogers.com
Sat Dec 1 02:59:29 UTC 2007


Thanks for all the info. Daniel can I pick your brains some more around the
server? I have been on the forums but haven't had much luck. My email
address is alt69 at rogers.com.

Cheers,

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Today's Topics:

   1. reply to an older post (Alfred)
   2. Some software IDEAS (Alfred)
   3. Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900  (Az)
   4. Re: Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900 (Daniel Robitaille)
   5. Re: Calgary Team (Lino Ramirez)
   6. Re: Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900 (Andrew Mathenge)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:41:01 -0500
From: Alfred <alfred.s at nexicom.net>
Subject: reply to an older post
To: bobbrews at speed-river.ca,	The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community
	<ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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Hi Bob:

Remember a few weeks ago, you stated that Vista, was always crashing.

It may be a hardware problem. Every 6 months or so, you need to do a
little Confuser maintenance. Clean the Fans, and put a drop of oil in
them. Clean the heat sinks, because things get hotter when covered in
dust. Clean and replace the Heat sink compound, on your CPU, and your
AGP Card if you have one of these. That White Heat Sink Compound can
turn Petrified, and then it does not work real good. My AGP card started
to over heat, and my CPU temperature got a bit high. So playing Videos,
ran into problems, and you might think it would be the software that is
doing this, but heat can do it too. Use something soft to remove the
petrified Compound from the AGP and CPU Chips, like a Fingernail:) I use
that Silver Thermal Compound, and now there are no Glitches, when I run
software, or freezing the Confuser. Things stay cool now! Winders Vista
might even run -sort of :)

Alfred! 




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:53:49 -0500
From: Alfred <alfred.s at nexicom.net>
Subject: Some software IDEAS
To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain

Hi:

Still haven't got 7.10's dial-up to work real good. 

We can't get High Speed where I live, so it's Dial-up. When there are
120 Upgrades to Download, you would like to do that in the background;
however doing that makes it very hard to download E-mail or anything
else. So have a little App that you can switch the Dial-Up priority
with. Something that can turn off the Background Download of Upgrades,
while the E-mails are being fetched. Something that can turn off the
E-mail and background downloads, while a new program is being loaded. On
Dial-up doing a few things at once causes the Download speed to drop to
one byte per month :) , and you might never get to download all the
upgrades. :)

I'll send you some more ideas, because that is the best I can do now. I
used to program, years ago, but after learning several different
programing languages, they kind of all flowed together. So I got
interested in other things. 

Alfred!






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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:41:22 -0500
From: "Az" <alt69 at rogers.com>
Subject: Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900 
To: <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900 

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Hi, just would like to start off by staying while I am fairly new to linux
and ubuntu, I am trying to set up a small office with Ubuntu.

I have bought a Dell Poweredge 2900 server and am working towards setting it
up. I have set up the server, and put the gui interface as well.

A few questions as I go through the setup

1) Not sure the RAID controller is working. I have 3- 500G SATA drives on
RAID1, but it seems to see one huge 994G drive. Not sure why it is, but I
have only portioned approx. 500G to use till the RAID is working properly.
It seems to pick up the 80G OS drive fine.

Specs:
- Hard Drive Controller: PERC 5/i, Integrated Controller Card
- 2- 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive
- Integrated SAS/SATA RAID 1/RAID 5, PERC 5/I Integrated
- 3- 500GB 7.2K RPM Universal SATA 3Gbps 3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive

Question: Any ideas on why or how to correct this? Am I missing something?

2) With the server came the Dell System Console and Agent CD which contains
such items as the Dell OpenManage Server Administration, Remote Access
Controller and several other utilities. On the DELL servers, SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server is supported with the following commands:

- sh srvadmin-install.sh -express

Question: How would I be able to determine and install the srvadmin onto the
server as it is an RPM install file?

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Azard




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:39:12 -0500
From: Daniel Robitaille <daniel.robitaille at mail.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Re: Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900
To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <475058D0.7050801 at mail.mcgill.ca>
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[humm...my initial reply seems to have disappeared in /dev/null 
land...let's try again]

Az wrote:
> Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900 
> 
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> 
> Hi, just would like to start off by staying while I am fairly new to linux
> and ubuntu, I am trying to set up a small office with Ubuntu.
> 
> I have bought a Dell Poweredge 2900 server and am working towards setting
it
> up. I have set up the server, and put the gui interface as well.

I have the same server here at work,  running Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)

> A few questions as I go through the setup
> 
> 1) Not sure the RAID controller is working. I have 3- 500G SATA drives on
> RAID1, but it seems to see one huge 994G drive. Not sure why it is, but I
> have only portioned approx. 500G to use till the RAID is working properly.
> It seems to pick up the 80G OS drive fine.
 >
> Specs:
> - Hard Drive Controller: PERC 5/i, Integrated Controller Card
> - 2- 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive
> - Integrated SAS/SATA RAID 1/RAID 5, PERC 5/I Integrated
> - 3- 500GB 7.2K RPM Universal SATA 3Gbps 3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive
> 
> Question: Any ideas on why or how to correct this? Am I missing something?

I'm not a RAID expert, but RAID-1 is a mirroring setup:  if you have two 
500GB disks in RAID-1, the 2nd one is the exact copy of the first one 
for a total of 500GB in total between the two 500GB disks.  Not sure 
what happens under the hood with 3 disks in RAID-1.  But I would 
logically assume that two of the 500GB disks are mirrored together, and 
the 3rd 500GB is by itself for a total of 1000GB between the 3.  To gain 
access to the full 1500GB, you could use RAID-0.  But the cost will be 
no redundancy for your files.     Not sure how valuable that data is, 
but maybe a RAID-5 between these 3 disks would be better for your needs?



> 2) With the server came the Dell System Console and Agent CD which
contains
> such items as the Dell OpenManage Server Administration, Remote Access
> Controller and several other utilities. On the DELL servers, SUSE Linux
> Enterprise Server is supported with the following commands:
> 
> - sh srvadmin-install.sh -express
> 
> Question: How would I be able to determine and install the srvadmin onto
the
> server as it is an RPM install file?

The Dell OpenManage software on these CDs will not work.  Like you said, 
they are only supported on the RedHat and Suse platforms.  And from what 
I have seen after multiple google searches, they are not simple scripts 
you can fine tune to get them to install in Ubuntu.

The good news is that the community has created Debian packages of the 
OpenManage Dell software.  The best one I have found is this one:
  ftp://ftp.sara.nl/pub/outgoing/dell/binary-i386/

The bad news:  it doesn't install properly for me on my Ubuntu 7.04 
server.  I get some errors in the post-install script.  I'm still hoping 
it is simple enough to modify to get it to run. It is on my long to-do 
list to try to figure it that one out.  But that deb file work great in 
Debian 4.0 (Etch).  To tell you the truth that situation with the Dell 
web admin tools is the main reason I'm currently running Debian and not 
Ubuntu on my other Dell PowerEdge servers, and the reason why for a 
while I was seriously considering using Centos (a Red Hat Entreprise 
rebuild) on them due to that perfect support from Dell for that distro. 
  I'm sure Dell support for these tools will improve with time for 
Debian and Ubuntu, but for now, that's the situation I have seen from my 
experiments in recent months.


Other sources of info I find useful about Dell PowerEdge:

http://linux.dell.com/repo/hardware/

http://linux.dell.com/monitoring.shtml

That PERC5/i RAID card was designed by LSI.  Their MegaCLI on their web 
site will allow you to get some command line diagnostics of your RAID 
disks.  It's available here:
http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/internal_raid/megaraid_sas/meg
araid_sas_8480e/index.html?remote=1&locale


And finally the Dell Linux PowerEdge mailing list is monitored by Dell 
engineers, and is often a great way to get some help and info about that 
line of servers:

http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge



Daniel

-- 
  Daniel Robitaille



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:10:23 -0700
From: "Lino Ramirez" <lino.m.ramirez at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Calgary Team
To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID:
	<bd906a7c0711301110r7f9758e0w520802d2b897914f at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Alex,

You might want to talk with the guys at the Calgary Linux User Group
[1]. They have monthly meetings at Devry and they are planning an
InstallFest for January 2008. By the way, late October CLUG with the
help of the Calgary Open Source Group [2], the Calgary UNIX User Group
[3] and others organized the Calgary  Open Source Systems Festival
[4].

Please, let me know if you want more information.

Cheers,

Lino

[1] http://www.clug.ca/
[2] http://calgaryos.ning.com/
[3] http://www.cuug.ab.ca/
[4] http://www.cossfest.ca/

On Nov 29, 2007 2:44 AM, Alex Hardie <akhardie at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I have not been all to active with this mailing list, but I am interested
in
> getting more involved in the Ubuntu/Linux community. Therefore I propose
the
> idea of a Calgary LUG. Would anybody be interested in starting a Calgary
> team? Just throwing the idea out there ;)
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
>
> --
> ubuntu-ca mailing list
> ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca
>
>



-- 
Lino Ramirez
http://linoramirez.wordpress.com



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:49:36 -0500
From: "Andrew Mathenge" <mathenge at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900
To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
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	<226e2d800711301549n128de4e2xce321956515cb198 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Just wanted to add one comment regarding the missing 500 GB. I've noticed on
IBM systems, when setting up ServerRAID, sometimes the default installation
will take one drive and leave it as a Hot Spare. It will use the remaining
drives for the RAID configuration.

Andrew.

On Nov 30, 2007 1:39 PM, Daniel Robitaille
<daniel.robitaille at mail.mcgill.ca>
wrote:

> [humm...my initial reply seems to have disappeared in /dev/null
> land...let's try again]
>
> Az wrote:
> > Help with Ubuntu and Dell PowerEdge 2900
> >
> >
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----
> >
> > Hi, just would like to start off by staying while I am fairly new to
> linux
> > and ubuntu, I am trying to set up a small office with Ubuntu.
> >
> > I have bought a Dell Poweredge 2900 server and am working towards
> setting it
> > up. I have set up the server, and put the gui interface as well.
>
> I have the same server here at work,  running Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)
>
> > A few questions as I go through the setup
> >
> > 1) Not sure the RAID controller is working. I have 3- 500G SATA drives
> on
> > RAID1, but it seems to see one huge 994G drive. Not sure why it is, but
> I
> > have only portioned approx. 500G to use till the RAID is working
> properly.
> > It seems to pick up the 80G OS drive fine.
>  >
> > Specs:
> > - Hard Drive Controller: PERC 5/i, Integrated Controller Card
> > - 2- 80GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive
> > - Integrated SAS/SATA RAID 1/RAID 5, PERC 5/I Integrated
> > - 3- 500GB 7.2K RPM Universal SATA 3Gbps 3.5-in HotPlug Hard Drive
> >
> > Question: Any ideas on why or how to correct this? Am I missing
> something?
>
> I'm not a RAID expert, but RAID-1 is a mirroring setup:  if you have two
> 500GB disks in RAID-1, the 2nd one is the exact copy of the first one
> for a total of 500GB in total between the two 500GB disks.  Not sure
> what happens under the hood with 3 disks in RAID-1.  But I would
> logically assume that two of the 500GB disks are mirrored together, and
> the 3rd 500GB is by itself for a total of 1000GB between the 3.  To gain
> access to the full 1500GB, you could use RAID-0.  But the cost will be
> no redundancy for your files.     Not sure how valuable that data is,
> but maybe a RAID-5 between these 3 disks would be better for your needs?
>
>
>
> > 2) With the server came the Dell System Console and Agent CD which
> contains
> > such items as the Dell OpenManage Server Administration, Remote Access
> > Controller and several other utilities. On the DELL servers, SUSE Linux
> > Enterprise Server is supported with the following commands:
> >
> > - sh srvadmin-install.sh -express
> >
> > Question: How would I be able to determine and install the srvadmin onto
> the
> > server as it is an RPM install file?
>
> The Dell OpenManage software on these CDs will not work.  Like you said,
> they are only supported on the RedHat and Suse platforms.  And from what
> I have seen after multiple google searches, they are not simple scripts
> you can fine tune to get them to install in Ubuntu.
>
> The good news is that the community has created Debian packages of the
> OpenManage Dell software.  The best one I have found is this one:
>  ftp://ftp.sara.nl/pub/outgoing/dell/binary-i386/
>
> The bad news:  it doesn't install properly for me on my Ubuntu 7.04
> server.  I get some errors in the post-install script.  I'm still hoping
> it is simple enough to modify to get it to run. It is on my long to-do
> list to try to figure it that one out.  But that deb file work great in
> Debian 4.0 (Etch).  To tell you the truth that situation with the Dell
> web admin tools is the main reason I'm currently running Debian and not
> Ubuntu on my other Dell PowerEdge servers, and the reason why for a
> while I was seriously considering using Centos (a Red Hat Entreprise
> rebuild) on them due to that perfect support from Dell for that distro.
>  I'm sure Dell support for these tools will improve with time for
> Debian and Ubuntu, but for now, that's the situation I have seen from my
> experiments in recent months.
>
>
> Other sources of info I find useful about Dell PowerEdge:
>
> http://linux.dell.com/repo/hardware/
>
> http://linux.dell.com/monitoring.shtml
>
> That PERC5/i RAID card was designed by LSI.  Their MegaCLI on their web
> site will allow you to get some command line diagnostics of your RAID
> disks.  It's available here:
>
>
http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/internal_raid/megaraid_sas/meg
araid_sas_8480e/index.html?remote=1&locale
>
>
> And finally the Dell Linux PowerEdge mailing list is monitored by Dell
> engineers, and is often a great way to get some help and info about that
> line of servers:
>
> http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
> --
>  Daniel Robitaille
>
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