Time to regroup and move on.

Andrew VanSpronsen avanspronsen at gmail.com
Fri May 27 01:33:59 UTC 2005

Quick update:

I put my name in for the LoCo Community Contact and removed Alex's as he had 
requested. Anyone else interested should sign up ASAP. Maybe we could vote 
starting Monday May 30th and end Saturday 5th at midnight?

I would also volunteer to work on getting the website sorted out. McMahonm, 
theantix, and Myles I am hoping would help me. I know they have been 
interested/involved. We can sort out the options and consolidate to a 
single, professional, flexible web presence. Sound OK?

Myles, did you say you knew something about the Linode arrangement?


On 5/25/05, Ryan Thiessen <ryan at ryanthiessen.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 May 2005, Daniel Robitaille wrote:
> > 1) mailing list (http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca)
> > Obviously it is working :) Who has administrative access to it? And
> > out of curisity, how many users do we have?
> Alex is the administrator of that list. At one time I asked him for the
> ability to help manage the list, he agreed to this but I do not currently
> have the access to the subscriber list.
> > 2) IRC channel (#ubuntu-ca)
> > Also working; but awfully quiet most of the time I'm on it (but I tend
> > to be on it late evenings west coast time). Who is channel op? It's nice
> > to see the logger is running (http://threeducks.net/ubuntu-ca-log/).
> > Who is doing that?
> I registered the channel, and set myself, alex, and Corey as channel ops.
> This can be altered pretty easily by either of us and was set arbitrarily.
> We don't have much of a need for channel ops on such a small channel, I
> hoped that between the three of us we'd have some sort of permanent
> ability to maintain operators.
> To answer the other question, the logger was set up after a request from
> Alex, which I run off my server, full source code (modified from the
> example python-twisted irc log bot) provided on the site you linked to.
> > 3) Contact person.
> > We need one, period. This is the person that represent us to the
> > Ubuntu world, and on the other side, the person the "world" talk to.
> > Important point: it is NOT a leader job; it is just the contact person
> > to make sure information flow in and out between the LoCo team and the
> > rest of the Ubuntu community.
> >
> > Right now we have a voting page, with one person on it (Alex):
> > http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CanadianLocoContactVote
> >
> > Alex? Do you still want the job? Anyone else wants to throw their
> > hat in the ring?
> As you've said before, we have some high profile members of the Ubuntu
> community on this list. I suggest that Corey or Daniel take on this role
> as they have a very stable presence in the wider Ubuntu community. I
> don't think this needs to be a politicized process, if one of you would
> like to wear this hat I suggest we just act on it with no voting or
> debate.
> > 4) Leader. Do we want one? Do we need one? Personally I don't think we
> > need that job, but that's only my personal opinion. A community
> > leadership for a group like this one is not a function of a specific
> > leader, but is very much a function of various individuals putting the
> > effort into the portions of the community and getting things done. It
> > should pretty clear to anyone what needs to be done. It's not rocket
> > science here, but only a Canadian LoCo team. But maybe people feel more
> > confortable with a "leader", who may or may not be the same person than
> > our contact person.
> I concur, I don't think we need a person designated as leader and think
> that would just lead to more conflict. Obviously we have several people
> interested in the ongoing nature of Ubuntu Canada -- shown by the fact
> that you and Andrew have kickstarted discussions when they went stale.
> What we need is for people to understand who is responsible for what and
> act accordingly. This email is a step in the right direction.
> On Wed, 25 May 2005, Andrew VanSpronsen wrote:
> > I am partial to the ubuntu/ca site. I would like to see ubuntu-org 
> redirect
> > to ubuntu.ca <http://ubuntu.ca> <http://ubuntu.ca> to unify the 
> presence. There is a cost to
> > the current hosting situation with ubuntu.ca <http://ubuntu.ca> <
> http://ubuntu.ca>; however, I
> > would like to followup with a note on the
> > http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamProcess page that talks about having 
> a
> > linode setup. This would give us the flexibility we need to run what we 
> want
> > and sounds like it might be free? maybe once we have the conatct sorted 
> out
> > they could followup? It would also give us the added clout of running on 
> a
> > ubuntu platform.
> I don't think we need to spend money out of pocket on this. For one, I
> already have a linode with spare capacity running Ubuntu Hoary right now,
> and of course Mathias has offered us free hosting as well (even though it
> is uncertain who can currently access it). If the long term goal is for
> Ubuntu LoCo groups to be hosted on a Xen virtual server at Linode, we
> should work with that in mind. In the interim we can work on getting
> either ubuntu.ca <http://ubuntu.ca> or ubuntu-ca.org<http://ubuntu-ca.org>up to speed, I am not partial to either
> but I am currently contributing to ubuntu.ca <http://ubuntu.ca> as that is 
> the server I have
> access to.
> In the end I agree fully with Daniel, we should only have one website and
> all work together on it. Eventually once everything is merged I would
> like to see ubuntu.ca <http://ubuntu.ca> abandoned or point at the more 
> official and
> permanent ubuntu-ca.org <http://ubuntu-ca.org>. That should not be taken 
> as a sign that I am
> unappreciative of the efforts by the people who set up ubuntu.ca<http://ubuntu.ca>--
> instead I thank the people involved for keeping things moving when they
> are stalled.
> Cheers,
> -Ryan Thiessen-
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Gmail - Hits the spot! :-)
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