[Bug 177154] Re: cdrtools is undistributable

[Mario Đanić]

Please, not again. Do I really have to lose all respect I had some time ago for you guys?
All of the sudden everybody appears to be hero. My knowledge of the licences is at the point
where I understand most of it, but I'm not a lawyer, so I don't wanna get into that discussion.

Cdrtools, Cdrkit, Libburnia. Three friendly competitors on the FOSS arena in the area of
cd-recording. There have been numerous discussions (even inside Ubuntu, I'll get to that
later) what to use, what should be uploaded, what shouldn't and what is the way of the future.

I believe I will say no lie if I claim that anyone but siretart wasn't interested at all.
We discussed, we fought, we made technical arguments, we made human arguments,
yet everyone choose to let it pass by. 

I used to say ages ago that cdrkit isn't and cannot be the way of the future. Nobody
was developing it, and all maintaince that was taking place in it was changing build
system and pull changes from the cdrtools which were under GPL. That was Debians
choice, that was your choice. They had all rights to do it, if you look at the licence.
They choose to *improve* the software. Yet again, a valid point in this world of ours.
Ideology mattered, people did not. I was flamed and insulted. Yet what I used to say back 
then became the truth.

People used to say cdrtools shouldn't be used of it's licence(s) and it's maintainer, who
often took wrong approach with discussion to people. I am not here to discuss what's he
or what you're like, but me and Thomas talk with him with mostly no spark between us.
Our discussion are strictly technical. O, why can't we just all get along? Licences?
What about people? Shouldn't people be more important? Did we forget once again why
we are here? And can't we just get around the desk, and create an agreement?

We decided to give users choice. Isn't that what Free/Open Source software is all 
about? And collaboration? Plus if that wasn't enough, it was put in Multiverse to 
prevent any possible arguments against it licence-wise. We talked with Schily,
he agreed to help with bugs on LP and it doesn't get any better then that when
you have  upstream author helping with bugs. Wrong approach sometimes? Perhaps ...
But we need to help ourselves, we need to help Schily, and he will help us.
All I ever saw was flaming, with no technical and human discussion from any side.
Who will make the first move? Will it be us? Or will you do another fork?

I am a Libburnia developer. I do not see the future...
... but I know we all need to collaborate to make sure future
is bright for each and every one of us. 

I know each and every one of you do great work, let's not forget that,
so please don't think I have anything against you.

I am no one in the Ubuntu community, I understand, but I did help 
form this decision of uploading cdrtools, and I firmly stand behind it.

Sincerely,
M.

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cdrtools is undistributable
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