<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <big><big>🌊 Ubuntu is not a wave, but a sea</big></big> I think what I'm going to say is anti-maketing, but also what for me seems real: Ubuntu is not a distro at this time, but a prototype of software development. The same as GNOME 3 has been in its early days, which I hated so much and now I like so hard. Usually I choose what works now, because working now is the only warrant it's actually been well done. On the other hand, in my opinion, no operating system is fully working today; because "working" means "working for nearly everyone". <big><big>📈 Decisions work, and rapidly</big></big> So I chose Ubuntu because it's the only distro I see decisions are taken with criteria that actually works to put the operating system and libre software forward as a standard rapidly. Nearly every single thing that has been criticised to Ubuntu has through lately positive returns: <ul> <li>An interface that works across platforms, and which delivers maximum speed at work.</li> <li>A cloud infrastructure that makes experience across devices very coherent, as these devices belonged to the same machine.</li> <li>A massive deployment of the operating system. </li> <li>Interest from the gaming industry in delivering titles to Linux. In fact, Steam and Source games work now without any errors at a stable performance in Saucy. </li> <li>Interest in GPUs developers in greatly improving their drivers, both proprietary and libre.</li> <li>The ability to maintain the computer by the user itself, without extra wasteful steps to configure it.</li> </ul> <big><big>🐞</big></big><big><big> For bugs, a mini gun is being baked</big></big> And what is left and we're working on it right now, and I have notice, is the abilities to: <ul> <li>Automatically test and manage bugs.</li> <li>Smoke test for bugs before launching a disk image. </li> <li>Have a simple, lean and coherent manual bug and quality management; accessible to any kind of contributor. </li> <li>Launch stable releases of Ubuntu every a while.</li> </ul> So when this gets a little more mature, it seems the situation with bugs will be very different. And with mature I mean months. <big><big>🍻 Hype and a cup made a hiccup</big></big> I think at the end the real discussion is about that people somehow feels like being manipulated by social media and marketing. I have to say that, in my opinion, Ubuntu is being advertised as more polished than actually is; and this is where I think marketing went wrong and somehow dishonest. On the other hand, without excusing this point, I see the intention has been always good: making free software the standard, liberating computing, and showing that people can live working at it. Regards ☕ <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 13/02/14 23:54, John escribió: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAPS3ni1WvbTAw5sSdt3jQ=MoahuKVC5kKd8c9+uGcHmJb+L=1A@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> Hello all. My name is John. While I have been following behind the scenes stuff with Ubuntu since the beginning, it's very rare that I reply to anything on a mailing list. With that said, I have a thought or two. First, how does *2 days* constitute a week in reference to "Bug Week?" Last time I checked, a week was 7 days, or 5 days if you were to go the work/school days route. Second, why does bug smashing have to be limited to a "week?" Shouldn't bugs be getting smashed as soon as humanly possible, no matter when it is? Papercuts is a good forum, but "Bug Week" sounds like cheerleaders standing on the sidelines rooting for their team when they are down by 10 points with little time left on the clock. Something isn't right here. I will agree that the notification of the event gives little to no time for people to prepare. The organizers do use a public calendar, right? Better future planning is needed instead of scrambling at the last minute. I'm not a programmer, so fixing bugs is something I can't do myself. I do however, like to test new software, break it, give the developers back the little pieces and tell them how it broke so they can fix it. Reporting bugs can be fun, albeit a bit frustrating when the app doesn't work as advertised. People get discouraged when apps don't function as intended and move on to another distro or even back to Windows. I hope I haven't bitten off more than I can chew with my statements, but this is what I've seen here for years. -John BaD_CrC @ Freenode <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 11, 2014 12:35 PM, "Alberto Salvia Novella" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:es20490446e@gmail.com">es20490446e@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> When saying Trusty is the most stable release I took into consideration it is in alpha stage, so Trusty is the most stable of all releases in alpha stage. On the other hand, the Ubuntu Bug Week has been quite unsuccessful. I thought in the worst scenario, because launching it so soon, whe will be at least four people participating; but we just where two. On the other hand, over a hundred bugs; so it wasn't that bad, thanks to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://launchpad.net/%7Echilicuil" target="_blank">Javier P.L.</a> for being so supportive. Because of this, I want to ask people some questions; so next time we do better. Please tell me the following, although the possible answer doesn't seem relevant; so we can figure out what has being missed in the event: <ul> <li>Why you choose not to participate?</li> <li>What will make you to participate in an event like this?</li> </ul> Thank you <div>El 10/02/14 13:57, Matthew Paul Thomas escribió: </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alberto Alberto Salvia Novella wrote on 07/02/14 02:48: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre>... As said <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000017.html" target="_blank"><http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000017.html></a> by Joel Spolsky, *good software* usually takes 10 years to become well made. And this appears the case for Ubuntu 14.04; the most stable release of all time, as it can be seen in its Error Tracker <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://errors.ubuntu.com/" target="_blank"><https://errors.ubuntu.com/></a>. ... </pre> </blockquote> <pre>Unfortunately, the error tracker currently shows that Trusty (the orange line) is the *least* stable version of Ubuntu yet. The most stable release so far was 13.04 (the purple line). I guess you misunderstood this because the Y axis on the graph is unlabelled, which is itself a bug! <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://launchpad.net/bugs/1237499" target="_blank"><http://launchpad.net/bugs/1237499></a> Unfortunately we can't tell whether Trusty is better or worse than other releases at this point of the release cycle, because data from before last July is on an old database server and not yet migrated to the current tracker. I hope the Bug Weekend was a success. Perhaps for future Bug Days, you could give more advance notice that they're happening. 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