<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks for the lovely chat on irc Omer. I wish you the best on your efforts to help the bug squad. As we spoke about, while our end goals are similar (as with all the ubuntu teams), our focus is different and should remain separate to allow us to work effectively. Cheers, Nicholas On 01/03/2013 11:08 AM, Omer Akram wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAB7xcUnpDDfj60ohK41pD_LcBnB_tZqiLzOFbF-XGoHkOu2wHA@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr">I would say that then the word ubuntu-quality is a bit too broad than its actual purpose, i should have researched more but i did think they were not limited to ISO testing only. As you stated that's not the case then its a bit of misunderstanding about #ubuntu-quality on my end.</div> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Thomas Ward <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:teward@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">teward@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class="HOEnZb"> <div class="h5">On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Micah Gersten <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:micahg@ubuntu.com">micahg@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: > On 01/03/2013 07:14 AM, Omer Akram wrote: >> Hi All >> >> Just recently there started a discussion on Ubuntu bug squad list >> about less people getting involved in bug triage along the discussion >> there were a few points raised which let me to put the idea of merging >> #ubuntu-quality and #ubuntu-bugs into one. Ultimately both have the >> same goal that is talking about quality in Ubuntu. >> >> At time people testing Ubuntu ISO will raise their bugs in >> #ubuntu-quality and discussions may take place there. People may or >> may not be available in both channels but since I believe people do >> talk mostly about bug reports in those channels (though >> #ubuntu-quality do have other topics as well) but I think merging them >> will make a few things easier one will be that there will be mostly a >> unified place for people to talk about bugs (i know people may talk in >> #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-desktop as well but those channels have their own >> reasons for exisitance) >> >> Here I might not have a lot of point to argue plus I am never great >> with words but the overall notion is that I believe that it will >> result in a benefit for Ubuntu due to having a concentrated place to >> talk bugs. >> >> Thoughts/Suggestions/Pros/Cons all welcome and appreciated >> >> Thanks! >> > I'm not sure I agree with this. #ubuntu-bugs is specifically for bug > triage, whereas #ubuntu-quality seems to not have a defined topic. > Whereas I'm likely to watch #ubuntu-bugs for people who need help with > triage, I'm not necessarily interested in most of what happens with > image testing and the issues that arise from it. This is not to say > that I don't care, rather that I'm not necessarily going to commit my > time to such issues. > You could in theory condense #ubuntu-devel, -desktop, and -release into > quality as well as the goal is quality, but I don't see that as being > productive. > Thanks, > Micah > > -- > Ubuntu-bugsquad mailing list > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad</a> </div> </div> I am in full agreement with Micah, what #ubuntu-quality does is ISO testing and other ISO/image related testing, and not necessarily bug triage. I lurk in both #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-quality. The channels have separate goals. And in #ubuntu-bugs, I'm also more than happy to help out with bug triaging, but I don't want to see ISO testing bugs and related stuff in #ubuntu-bugs either. Since not everyone's responding to both the BugSquad and ubuntu-quality lists, I've sent this response to both. ------ Thomas Ubuntu BugSquad Member <div class="HOEnZb"> <div class="h5"> -- Ubuntu-bugsquad mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad</a> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> </blockquote> </body> </html>