Hi Paul, <div>On 10/26/06, Paul Dufresne <<a href="mailto:dufresnep@fastmail.fm">dufresnep@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I have only recently actively working on bug triaging.</blockquote><div> Thank you! :) </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I have taken the habit, in most case, on an incomplete report, to assign the bug on me, as this is suggested to do on: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#head-65e5a5e189e28e52756baa61c7cd13b0f8121738"> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#head-65e5a5e189e28e52756baa61c7cd13b0f8121738</a></blockquote><div> I have changed the page now. I think it would be unwise to have bug triagers "assign" bugs to themselves for the following reasons: - "Assigning" a bug has the implied meaning of saying that person X will fix/resolve the bug. - Since we are all volunteers, if some triager assigns a bug to themselves and stops being active in the future, the bug will be in limbo, since someone who could fix/resolve the bug might think that the triager is actually a developer/learner who wants to have a shot at fixing the bug. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">This is/was making sense to me. The assignee, is the one taking care of a bug, RIGHT NOW. As the bug triager is trying to get more information before have it ready to be examined by a competent developer (confirmed state as I see it), it make sense to have it assigned to him. This way, searching for unassigned bug, become a reasonable way to find bugs that needs some action on them.</blockquote><div> 1) All bugs are equally deserving of love :) </div>2) You don't have to triage "all the way" -- in other words, it is perfectly fine to do a portion of the triaging work - if you think you know the package that a bug belongs to, assign that and move on if there is nothing else you can help with at the moment. Together we can work much better than if only one person works on a bug. We're all good at different things, and should have the freedom to "roam" freely in the bug tracker. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">It took me a number of reading at <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity"> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity</a> to realize that this is not permitted on Ubiquity: "Please do not assign ubiquity bugs to anyone unless you're a ubiquity developer or you manage a ubiquity developer." In fact, this message was initiated based on extract of Colin Watson, on a parted bug: "Unassigning Paul from this bug, unless he actually plans to write the code necessary to fix this.". On this particuliar bug, I felt relieved, because the reporter was quite annoyed at the way I was triaging his bug.</blockquote><div> See, this is a particular case of when the baggage that is associated with "Assigning" bugs comes into play. We would do well to avoid it all together. You still can subscribe to bugs to keep track of the ones that you have been traiging. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I have received a number of such comments, that I should not assign a bug to myself as a bug triager. </blockquote><div> I said that once, I remember. Since it was an apparent error in the wiki page, I edited the wiki page to avoid misleading people. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> So this email is a request to make sure 'HowToTriage bugs's suggestion to assign to oneself is right. And if so, see in what case/packages, this would be considered bad practice.</blockquote><div> If anyone has any suggestions regarding improving the wiki pages to make them reflect current practices, please bring them up here, or directly edit the wiki. Thanks a lot for your attention to detail, and for all the bug triaging you do, Paul. Carthik. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -- <a href="http://www.fastmail.fm">http://www.fastmail.fm</a> - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- Ubuntu-bugsquad mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com"> Ubuntu-bugsquad@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad</a> </blockquote></div> -- Ph.D. Candidate University of Central Florida Homepage: <a href="http://carthik.net">http://carthik.net</a>