Low bug triage activity all around

[Javier P.L.]

+1 for the patching triage round, maybe it's time for another operation 
cleansweep [0] too. I'll start checking out the bugs with patches as 
soon as new year parties end. Any help is welcome.

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperationCleansweep

On 01/01/2013 12:04 PM, Omer Akram wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert
> <ubuntu at treblig.org <mailto:ubuntu at treblig.org>> wrote:
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>     * Omer Akram (om26er at ubuntu.com <mailto:om26er at ubuntu.com>) wrote:
>      > Hey all,
>      >
>      > I have been involved in bug triage for a while in Ubuntu and it
>     seems this
>      > scene is not that active it used to be although alot of great
>     folks from
>      > our community are highly devoted.
>      >
>      > I am not sure about the reason behind that but one thing I am
>     sure is that
>      > previously we had running efforts like "Bug Days" where a certain
>     package
>      > was selected and all of the Ubuntu Bug Squad was invited to
>     participate in
>      > triaging those bugs.
>      >
>      > Another reason which could be related is that now there is no one
>     in the
>      > Ubuntu desktop team (or Canonical) to lead the effort of Bug
>     management and
>      > community involvement previously Pedro played a big role there.
>      >
>      > So I think we need to think of some ways to improve the situation
>     and get
>      > more people involved into this effort. Does anyone have
>      > suggestions/comments about this matter.
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>     Most of the irc seems to have been pretty dead over xmas, I'm guessing
>     there aren't many of us doing it just for the heck of it at the moment.
>     There is also the danger that perhaps some of the others got a life
>     and we aren't getting new ones in.
>
>
> That may be a factor but I have seen closely no activity in #ubuntu-bugs
> for a while which is not good
>
>
>     I've been trying to fix things like universe packages that seg at
>     startup;
>     but with Debian in freeze it's nigh on impossible to get any fix
>     into debian
>     unless it also breaks Debian which for a lot of our Fortify triggered
>     bugs they don't; and for a non-debian dev it's also hard going.
>
>     There are also a heck of a lot of unreviewed patches in the system;
>     so perhaps
>     it's time for another round of patch triaging.
>
> </snip>
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>     I don't know what the numbers are, but I think the lack of an 'alpha'
>     for Raring (as opposed to the dailies) makes me think there are less
>     people
>     trying it; there certainly doesn't seem to be much activity on +1.
>
>
> I am not currently affected by this but maybe a bit more time at this
> will produce better result.
>
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>     I'm also seeing signs there are a few of the regulars who've tried
>     Raring on their machine and find it's failed very early on in the kernel
>     and haven't been able to find a working solution to carry on, and have
>     just gone and ignored it for the moment.
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>
> then I am lucky raring works just fine for me just few glitches here and
> there but thats expected at this stage i guess.
>
>
>     One thing I am starting to do is pick a random point in the bug list
>     rather than starting at either end; just adding a 1000 or another
>     random number to the bug list and instead of next/last just add a few
>     more - lots of people look at the latest bugs; but there are a few
>     year old untriaged bugs that are still broken on Raring; it just
>     takes someone to spot them and try them - if the description
>     in the bug is a seg-at-startup then I tend to try it myself
>     rather than asking the user to reverify, since the user has probably
>     moved on.
>
>
> Yeah, I has been disucussed in the past that people don't know which
> bugs to start with, the above problem sounds related.
>
>     Dave
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