Error with Unity and classic Gnome

[Carl Ansell]

As far as I know it is, but it would need to install all of the GNOME 2 
and GTK 2 dependencies and as it is not installed by default there may 
be bugs in it that would probably take a community effort to fix. There 
has been a fork of GNOME 2 intended on fixing bugs and maybe adding 
features in the future, and is called Mate. However, I don't know if 
this can be installed in Oneiric or what its current development state 
is. You could perhaps install Oneiric beta 1 alongside Natty and try to 
get GNOME 2 working, that way you can see what happens before attempting 
to update the whole system.

I recommeded another distro as it would remove the need to install GNOME 
2 (which I think would break Unity and probably other parts of Ubuntu) 
and you would know that the interface is officially supported with 
updates and fixes where necessary.

On 04/09/11 20:01, ?????? ????????? wrote:
> Carl Ansell recommeded us to install another distrib, fully based on 
> GNOME2 (such as Mint). Maybe he had strong reasons for this, I don't 
> know. Now I use ubuntu natty and don't know about oneiric behaviour.
>
> 04.09.2011 22:54, Mohammad AbuShady ?????:
>>
>> Gnome classic is installable on oneiric isn't it?
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2011 10:47 PM, "Mohammad AbuShady" <coalwater5 at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:coalwater5 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > it's just not in installed by default but you can still install it 
>> if you
>> > want
>> > On Sep 4, 2011 10:38 PM, "?????? ?????????" <avtomaton at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:avtomaton at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> Now you mean that I can't use GNOME 2 as a desktop in Oneiric at 
>> all? In
>> >> fact, ubuntu became OS with hardly integrated desktop. It's a great
>> >> pity, I think.
>> >>
>> >> 04.09.2011 22:25, Carl Ansell ?????:
>> >>> The next release (Oneiric) uses Unity 2D as a fallback option and
>> >>> Unity 3D by default. So in the current preview releases for Oneiric
>> >>> (which I am using) GNOME 2 is not installed, and Unity is based on
>> >>> GNOME 3 rather than GNOME 2.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 04/09/11 19:18, ?????? ????????? wrote:
>> >>>> It's clear that Ubuntu is moving away from GNOME 2? Why? This 
>> package
>> >>>> is still available even in new release, and it's a lot of people
>> >>>> using it. Now you mean that if unity is main desktop option, it is
>> >>>> one and only option?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 04.09.2011 22:08, Carl Ansell ?????:
>> >>>>> On 04/09/11 08:20, Oddvar Kvernevik wrote:
>> >>>>>> I report this as a bug because what happened was highly 
>> unexpected.
>> >>>>>> I have Used Ubuntu with Classic Gnome desktop in all the years w
>> >>>>>> Ubuntu.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> My computer has Pentium D processor, 80GB harddisk and
>> >>>>>> Nvidia graphic card with 2GB Ram.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> This is what happened when I first time used the Ubuntu 11.04.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> First I burned the Ubuntu 11.04 CD.
>> >>>>>> During boot I got message saying my Hardware is not good 
>> enough for
>> >>>>>> Unity
>> >>>>>> and Gnome Classic will be used.
>> >>>>>> Thats all fine because I prefer Gnome Classic over Unity.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The problem started when I wanted to use my Ubuntu as I am 
>> used to.
>> >>>>>> First I waned to Add to Panel; Dictionary Lookup.
>> >>>>>> That choice suddenly did not exist. After asking the Ubuntu
>> >>>>>> Community I got to know
>> >>>>>> this option has been removed from Unity.
>> >>>>>> But I did not use Unity, only classic Gnome desktop?
>> >>>>>> After some investigation I found there were programs installed on
>> >>>>>> my system
>> >>>>>> that refer to Unity.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> After removing those programs I am back to Gnome Classic
>> >>>>>> and no more problems about Unity.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I report this as a bug because this should not happen during 
>> install:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> First my 2-3 years old Pentium D computer is not too old to run
>> >>>>>> Ubuntu whether
>> >>>>>> Unity or Classic. I personal prefer Classic but I never got the
>> >>>>>> opportunity to
>> >>>>>> choose during install.
>> >>>>>> After classic installed, it seemed there where still some annoying
>> >>>>>> traces from Unity
>> >>>>>> like Dictionary Lookup is not on the list over applications 
>> "Add to
>> >>>>>> Panel"
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Only after search and remove all programs in my system that 
>> seems to
>> > be
>> >>>>>> related to Unity did my system function as a normal Ubuntu Gnome
>> >>>>>> classic desktop.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> This was highly annoying and disturbing to me
>> >>>>>> and it should indeed be reported as a bug.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regards from Oddvar Kvernevik
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> I would recommend that you try one of the many GNOME 2 Ubuntu based
>> >>>>> distros out there such as Mint. It is clear that Ubuntu is moving
>> >>>>> away from GNOME 2 and Oneiric will not even provide the GNOME 2
>> >>>>> desktop as an option, but there are many distributions that still
>> >>>>> use it as their main interface.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> ? ?????????, ?????? ?????????
>> >>>> avtomaton at gmail.com <mailto:avtomaton at gmail.com>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ? ?????????, ?????? ?????????
>> >> avtomaton at gmail.com <mailto:avtomaton at gmail.com>
>> >>
>
> -- 
> ? ?????????, ?????? ?????????
> avtomaton at gmail.com
>
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