<p dir="ltr">Hey, that's impossible for me.<br>
I can't make the 100km drive on a weekday.<br>
In the weekend it would be another story.</p>
<p dir="ltr">What do you guys think?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Op 6 mei 2014 19:04 schreef "kawabill" <<a href="mailto:kawabill@telenet.be">kawabill@telenet.be</a>>:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
How could we best get together;<br>
2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or
cannot pick up;<br clear="none">
a) kawabill<br clear="none">
b) nero<br clear="none">
c) Frank Neirynck<br clear="none">
d) Tom Verlinden<br clear="none">
e) Jan Bongaerts<br clear="none">
f) Merlijn Sebrechts<br clear="none">
g) Alain Daudrez<br>
<br>
You are all invited to come to Houthalen on May 27th. Would this
work for all of you?<br>
<br>
Rg<br>
William<br>
<br>
<div>On 03-05-14 21:11, Merlijn Sebrechts
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Why not use them all? There are enough applications out
there that let you post on multiple social media all at
once...<br>
<br>
On a side note: I'm making a diaspora* node for hackerspace
ghent. When it's finished, I'll also make an ubuntu-be group
there, so we can hang out on our own, open source, trustable,
distributed social platform...<br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-03 12:54 GMT+02:00 Alain
Baudrez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:a.baudrez@gmail.com" target="_blank">a.baudrez@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>
<div>I just had a look at the ubuntu-be page on
Google+ - <a href="https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl" target="_blank">https://plus.google.com/112197959490301022128/about?hl=nl</a>
- it is idle. Even if we don't have the possibility
to modify our website in the near future, we could
at least use the events options of our Google+ page
to announce what we plan to do.<br>
<br>
</div>
Same goes for our FB page - <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/</a>
. There is a bit more 'life' in the FB group, but
nothing spectacular.<br>
<br>
</div>
I noticed quite a lot op webpages like '10 things to do
after installing ubuntu 14.04'. We could at least
translate (some of) those pages into Dutch and French
and post them on those two social media, It would be a
start.<br>
<br>
</div>
The main problem I see is which one we will be using. <br>
With the 'rumours' of Google eventually downsizing or
shutting down their G+ social network, and on the other
side some users not trusting Facebook, which way must we
go?<br>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-03 11:29
GMT+02:00 Duray Pol <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:duraypol@gmail.com" target="_blank">duraypol@gmail.com</a>></span>:
<div>
<div><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div>Le 02/05/2014 14:26, Luc Rulkin a
écrit :<br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:garamond,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
<div><span>Goede middag .</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>Een
klein vraagje , van iemand
die een paar jaar terug al
een vraag stelde op t
forum , zonder antwoord
.. </span></div>
<div><span>zeggen
jullie nu : "wij zijn op
stervens na dood ... ga
naar Ubuntu.nl of
Ubuntu.fr ?". </span></div>
<div><span> Is
er een franstalige kant
van <a href="http://ubuntu.be" target="_blank">ubuntu.be</a>
? Anders ga ik daar eens
vragen wat ik kan doen.</span></div>
<div><span>(oude
acer met Vista Profess.
zou ik willen proberen op
Ubuntu)(ik ben geen It'er
en heb wat aanwijzingen
nodig)</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>C'est
tout !!</span></div>
<div><span><br>
</span></div>
<div><span>MIVG
Luc R</span></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font color="#5b8828">Luc
Rulkin<br>
<span></span>Bergstraat 6
<br>
<span></span>B 9630 St
Marie Latem (Zwalm)<br>
<span></span><br>
There is nothing worse
than being talked about,
that is not being talked
about.<br>
(O Wilde)<br>
</font></div>
<div style="display:block">
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> On
Friday, 2 May 2014,
12:25, tom verlinden
<a href="mailto:tom.verlinden@gmail.com" target="_blank"><tom.verlinden@gmail.com></a>
wrote:<br>
</font> </div>
<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Bill's
proposal looks
mighty fine to
me. I'll get
my thinking
cap on and see
what i an
come up with.
Anybody having
a problem with
bill's
proposal?</div>
<div>Op 2 mei
2014 06:36
schreef
"Jurgen
Gaeremyn" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be" target="_blank">jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be</a>>:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>
<div>I think
any of the
hackerspaces
will be
willing to
accomodate...
people living
near train
stations on
our group
might too...<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Possibly I
can't be
available
myself (wife
is pregnant
and due for
June 4th) but
I'm pretty
sure
Hackerspace
Brussels (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://hackerspace.be/" target="_blank">hackerspace.be</a>) would be glad to offer you a chair
in the space
or the
garden...<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Grtz,<br clear="none">
Jurgen.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
On 01-05-14
23:08, Jan
Bongaerts
wrote:<br clear="none">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>
<div>Real life
meeting should
still take
preference
over virtual
meeting, if
you ask me.<br clear="none">
</div>
It's not all
that hard to
organise.
Jurgen did it,
I did it. They
were all
successful.<br clear="none">
</div>
Just get to
somewhere
easily
accessible by
public
transport.<br clear="none">
</div>
Brussels is
the best.<br clear="none">
Antwerp or
Ghent might be
a good option.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</div>
<div><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div>On 1 May
2014 22:51,
Merlijn
Sebrechts <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:merlijn.sebrechts@gmail.com" target="_blank">merlijn.sebrechts@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>
<div>aa) I can
help with the
website. I now
a tiny bit of
Drupal. If
somebody can
give me the
right
credentials, I
could take a
look at it
next week.
Mike Morraye
knows more
about the
website, I
think.<br clear="none">
</div>
cc) same as
aa)<br clear="none">
</div>
ee) I think
Google
Hangouts is
the best free
option. If
somebody has a
sip server, we
could also use
a sip client
like <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://jitsi.org/" target="_blank">jitsi.org</a>, which has excellent Ubuntu support.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Thanks
for doing this
wake-up call,
kawabill!<br clear="none">
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div>
2014-05-01
21:40
GMT+02:00
kawabill <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:kawabill@telenet.be" target="_blank">kawabill@telenet.be</a>></span>:
<div>
<div><br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div> <font face="Arial">Hey
I'm not alone
on the
island....! :)<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Tom, you're
right I think
and I agree.
It is not
somebody we
need, it is
us. Also
Juergen's
proposal for
having
Ubuntu-be.org
and setting
clear
expectations I
agree with,
this way we
can prevent
disappointment
from and by
others.
Carrying
Ubuntu-be to
the funeral I
would think is
just a bit too
early. From
the reactions,
at least 5-10
people are
actively
involved and
able to help.
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Using IRC is
maybe just a
little too
much written
words and I've
got no clue
how to get it
to work
reliably, I
think we need
to get
together or at
least get
visual. For
getting
together there
is the hacker
space, the
facilities in
Houthalen an
hack - even an
old school
room in Bree.
Is there an
open source
alternative to
Skype,
allowing for a
virtual
meeting maybe
(I saw
Apache's Open
Meeting)? Or
what if we
organise a
chat/video
conference
from the
'local'
events;
Houthalen in
Limburg,
Hackerspace,
Brugge - can
we organize it
maybe in such
a way that
it's all in
sync; ie.
every last
Wednesday of
the month
(convenient
for LImburg,
as this is the
gathering date
already)?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</font><br clear="none">
<div>1) Do you
want to help
set up a booth
at fosdem
2015? YES, if
we can plan
ahead I would
think we can
get the right
and motivated
people
involved
including this
chap<br clear="none">
</div>
<div>2) Do you
still use the
website? If
so, how? YES,
but let's
indeed make it
such that
people see
activity -
starting with
filling the
agenda showing
the local
activities for
example<br clear="none">
</div>
3) What
information
would you want
to see on the
new website?
Haven't really
given it a
thought, but
one thing for
sure I would
like to see
and that is UP
TO DATE
information<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Let's keep the
ideas coming,
I think
getting around
the bank
account
quickly is
indeed opening
a new one, and
make it one
that we can
access and at
least have
some kind of
redundancy.
This as not to
get stuck
again.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I have to read
and negotiate
contracts all
day, it would
really be good
if we could
talk to each
other,
preferably
face to face.
This way we
iterate in
seconds rather
than weeks.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Finally; let's
get the link
into Canonical
established
and
strengthened.
I work for a
large company
and quite a
large bunch is
starting to
use Ubuntu
also on the
desktop.
Ubuntu Phone
is a great
idea and has
huge
potential,
especially for
cost savings.
I checked how
I could get
our purchasing
in contact
easily, but
believe me,
Canonical is
not going to
sell the idea
if they stick
to how they
have
approached
this up to
now. I would
think,
certainly in
Europe, they
have a wide
enough network
of enthusiasts
and could
easily bundle
the network to
get aggressive
into offering
savings to
large and
medium size
companies. As
far as I'm
concerned I
use the
software that
they have
ubuntu-ed, it
is this
creation that
binds us - the
reason why I
spend my time
locally to
help people is
for ubuntu,
and also as a
kind of
payback to
Canonical
because they
have created a
magnificent
piece of
software. Not
only them, but
they are for
me one of the
main forces
behind
humanizing
Linux! Credit
to Mark
Shuttleworth
for all that.
Taking
Ubuntu-be to
the graveyard
doesn't seem
the best way
to help and
show a kind of
gratitude.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Too many words
written
already, and
hail to he/she
who came to
this point.
How to go
forward? Let's
use 8D
methodology
and get this
going.<br clear="none">
1) Plan -
revive
Ubuntu-be and
prevent it
from going
quiet again<br clear="none">
2) The
core-team
members
proposed, let
me know who
disagrees or
cannot pick
up;<br clear="none">
a)
kawabill<br clear="none">
b) nero<br clear="none">
c) Frank
Neirynck<br clear="none">
d) Tom
Verlinden<br clear="none">
e) Jan
Bongaerts<br clear="none">
f) Merlijn
Sebrechts<br clear="none">
g) Alain
Daudrez<br clear="none">
3) The
problem;
Ubuntu-be is
dying<br clear="none">
4) Temporary
fix;<br clear="none">
aa)
website is not
upto date
(whom can take
action and
when?)<br clear="none">
bb) bank
account needs
to be
corrected (to
open a new one
I can pick up
the action and
can have it
done within
two weeks,
with regards
to the old one
whom can get
the
responsible
person to help
organize it
such that we
have multiple
Ubuntu-ers to
get access and
when?)<br clear="none">
cc)
support point
map - remove
ghost accounts
and update or
allow for
updated
information
(whom can take
action and
when?)<br clear="none">
dd)
Limburg event
box - Wouter,
please drop me
an e-mail
where I can
come and pick
it up and get
it into my
storage
garage)<br clear="none">
ee) Setup
a web-meeting
last Wednesday
of May (May
28th), we can
use Skype,
Google hangout
or maybe
someone can
help build
Open Meeting
for Ubuntu (I
don't mind
planning and
coordinating,
whom can help
setup the
technical side
of it all,
Nero???)<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Let's get this
going before
we start
root-cause
analysis, and
when need
please team up
where you can.
Myself I'm not
really good at
using Drupal,
I've build my
own in HTML,
but I sure
could help
cleaning up
and updating.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Your comments
please?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Bill
<div><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div>On
01-05-14
12:39, tom
verlinden
wrote:<br clear="none">
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Thanks
for your info
on this. I've
always thought
that this
certain
"somebody"
should
comprise out
of more than
one person.
One person
can't take
this on his or
her shoulders.
There's too
much, from
what i'm
reading, for
one person to
do and be
succesfull
about it.
There should
be a team of
somebodies,
all doing
somewhat the
same, but in
different
locations.
(Does that
make sense?)
Is there a
need for a
central organ?
To me that
makes it too
complicated
already, and
might create
expectations,
that cannot be
fullfilled.
Anyway,
there's need,
i guess to
promote
ubuntu, as
Bill said. Now
we have to
figure out how
to do this in
a fun way, i
guess. </div>
<div>Op 1 mei
2014 12:27
schreef
"Jurgen
Gaeremyn" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be" target="_blank">jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be</a>>:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>Tom,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
the strongest
periods of
Ubuntu-be were
when one
single person
actually kept
his shoulders
under the
project. In
the past we
had a few of
these people.
Thing is: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://ubuntu-be.org/" target="_blank">ubuntu-be.org</a> should set clear expectations: what
(not) to
expect: a
spokesman, the
official
stance of
Ubuntu on
whatever
Belgian
activity,
guaranteed
support,
etc...<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
If someone
stands up and
is prepared to
take
leadership,
you will
quickly have a
core team of
somewhere
between 5 and
10 or even
more if you do
a great job.
If you're
willing to
take up this
commitment,
you'll be
doing
Ubuntu-be a
big favour.
Problem is,
apparently
this mythical
figure called
"somebody"
we're all
talking about
and who'll do
all the
practical
stuff like
maintain the
website,
organise event
booths, create
content,
etc... isn't
on this list
anymore. Not
sure if he
ever was.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Please, do
give it a
chance. First
things first -
canonical
approval is
not a problem
if you can
prove you're
active. I'm
assuming
someone here
will be able
to tell you
more details
on this. <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Grtz,<br clear="none">
Jurgen.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
On 01-05-14
12:11, tom
verlinden
wrote:<br clear="none">
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">I
don't know
about
organizing a
funeral just
yet. Maybe <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://ubuntu.be/" target="_blank">ubuntu.be</a> could be a commonplace for those using and
or discovering
ubuntu but
more in a fun
sort of way.
Don't know if
i'm saying
this right,
but i think
you get the
picture. There
doesn't need
to be a
central person
or spokesman
imho. Makes it
far too
official. The
first goal
should be, in
my humble
opinion, to
get people to
discover
ubuntu. Maybe
by promoting
this list we
could get more
people
discovering
the os. As far
as i'm
concerned, i
use ubuntu,
talk about it
and show it to
whoever i
think might be
interrested,
give support
where i can
and drop
leaflets in
our library.
(They're also
on ubuntu.
Woot!!)<br clear="none">
I think that
if we do our
part any wich
way we can, on
our little
"islands", and
use the net,
list as our
"glue", who
knows what can
happen in the
future? Is
there still a
connection
with
canonical? How
does that
work? Hell,
typing this
gets me all
fired up to
give this a
chance. What
do you guys
think? Give it
some kind of
try, or just
leave, and do
something on
our own? (I
think we could
achieve more
together, but
i'd like to
hear your
opinion). My 2
cents....</div>
<div>Op 30
apr. 2014
07:30 schreef
"kawabill"
<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:kawabill@telenet.be" target="_blank">kawabill@telenet.be</a>>:<br clear="none">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
What triggered
me was a mail
I got from
someone in the
community,
stating that
he rather
spent his time
otherwise,
declining an
invitation I
had sent him.
No problem of
course, but it
took me to the
following
page;<br clear="none">
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings</a><br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
No activities
are visible
for me the
visitor, going
over the pages
it seems that
the latest
info dates
from 2012. I
know
activities are
still going
on, organized
by enthusiasts
on a very
local scale,
but for me it
is not visible
whether all of
this is
coordinated.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
I find it a
pity, that in
the period
where MS end
of lifes XP I
don't see any
coordinated
activity to
get people
over into the
Ubuntu/Mint/Linux
camp.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Can anyone
please comment
and give
feedback or
let me know
I'm wrong and
I seem to live
life on a
desolate space
outside of the
Ubuntu
community?<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
Have a nice
day.<br clear="none">
Bill<br clear="none">
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