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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 23/04/2014 11:01, Jan Bongaerts a
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<div>Thanks Adrien,<br>
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if you need help lobbying with Flemish politicians, or with
Hendrik Bogaert, let us know.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Jan.<br>
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On 23 April 2014 09:32, Adrien Rami <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Regarding card reader for Belfius: Belfius it's not the
problem, but the Fedict. This new card reader it's a new
technology command by Hendrik Bogaert (Federal Secretary
for Modernisation of Public Services) to the Fedict.
And, the secretary asked Belfius (owned by Belgium) to
be the first to implement this new technology.</p>
<p>I think we can ask Belfius and the Fedict to obligate
to implement <span title="">linux</span> technology. I
will discuss this subject to Mozilla Community too (We
will have problems with Tax On Web soon...).</p>
<p>I know some politics who could get more information
about this topic, if I get information I give it to you
soon as possible.</p>
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<div>Rami Adrien</div>
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1. Belfius New cardreader (massimo21)<br>
2. Re: Belfius New cardreader (martijn cielen)<br>
3. Re: Belfius New cardreader (Jurgen Gaeremyn)<br>
4. Re: Belfius New cardreader (martijn cielen)<br>
5. Re: Belfius New cardreader (Marc Van Hoof)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 07:54:09 -0700 (PDT)<br>
From: massimo21 <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader<br>
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Hello everyone.<br>
Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess
what. No Linux support!<br>
I Called them for that and they told me if I did a
petition there would more<br>
chances that they will support it in the future.<br>
If we can organize a petition and send it beck to<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be"
target="_blank">belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be</a>
woud be nice.<br>
<br>
Grtz,<br>
Massimiliano.<br>
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:06:27 +0200<br>
From: martijn cielen <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader<br>
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Don't get your hopes up. Even OS X Mavericks isn't
supported (at the<br>
moment).<br>
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM, massimo21<br>
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">lentini.massimiliano@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Hello everyone.<br>
> Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess
what. No Linux support!<br>
> I Called them for that and they told me if I
did a petition there would<br>
> more<br>
> chances that they will support it in the
future.<br>
> If we can organize a petition and send it beck
to<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be"
target="_blank">belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be</a>
woud be nice.<br>
><br>
> Grtz,<br>
> Massimiliano.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 20:31:04 +0200<br>
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Open a bank account at a different bank and transfer
away ?100 every<br>
month - tell them you'll repeat that till the
account is empty. At that<br>
point you'll completely move to the other bank. Odds
are they will<br>
become more eager :)<br>
<br>
Grtz,<br>
Jurgen.<br>
<br>
On 22-04-14 16:54, massimo21 wrote:<br>
> Hello everyone.<br>
> Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess
what. No Linux support!<br>
> I Called them for that and they told me if I
did a petition there would more<br>
> chances that they will support it in the
future.<br>
> If we can organize a petition and send it beck
to<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be"
target="_blank">belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be</a>
woud be nice.<br>
><br>
> Grtz,<br>
> Massimiliano.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> View this message in context: <a
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:36:18 +0200<br>
From: martijn cielen <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader<br>
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Odds are 100% they'll laugh at you and charge you
for moving your money. ;-)<br>
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Open a bank account at a different bank and
transfer away ?100 every month<br>
> - tell them you'll repeat that till the account
is empty. At that point<br>
> you'll completely move to the other bank. Odds
are they will become more<br>
> eager :)<br>
><br>
> Grtz,<br>
> Jurgen.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 22-04-14 16:54, massimo21 wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello everyone.<br>
>> Just got the new Belfius card reader. And
Guess what. No Linux support!<br>
>> I Called them for that and they told me if
I did a petition there would<br>
>> more<br>
>> chances that they will support it in the
future.<br>
>> If we can organize a petition and send it
beck to<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be"
target="_blank">belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be</a>
woud be nice.<br>
>><br>
>> Grtz,<br>
>> Massimiliano.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 21:44:00 +0200<br>
From: Marc Van Hoof <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Hoi, Go with your monny to Argenta. It's al for free
and you can<br>
internetbanking via your browser.<br>
Good luck, Marc<br>
<br>
Op dinsdag 22 april 2014 heeft martijn cielen <<a
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href="mailto:mcielen@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcielen@gmail.com</a>>
het<br>
volgende geschreven:<br>
> Odds are 100% they'll laugh at you and charge
you for moving your money.<br>
;-)<<br>
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><br>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jurgen
Gaeremyn <<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be"
target="_blank">jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Open a bank account at a different bank and
transfer away ?100 every<br>
month - tell them you'll repeat that till the
account is empty. At that<br>
point you'll completely move to the other bank. Odds
are they will become<br>
more eager :)<br>
>><br>
>> Grtz,<br>
>> Jurgen.<br>
>><br>
>> On 22-04-14 16:54, massimo21 wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello everyone.<br>
>>> Just got the new Belfius card reader.
And Guess what. No Linux support!<br>
>>> I Called them for that and they told me
if I did a petition there would<br>
more<br>
>>> chances that they will support it in
the future.<br>
>>> If we can organize a petition and send
it beck to<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be"
target="_blank">belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be</a>
woud be nice.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Grtz,<br>
>>> Massimiliano.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:36:17 +0200<br>
From: martijn cielen <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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The problem with Argenta is it's a network of
independent bankers. Try to<br>
get some money from your account in an Argenta
office that's not your<br>
"home" office. It's also terrible for any other
banking product.<br>
Belfius is (at the moment) the best bank when it
comes to technology and<br>
mobile banking. The card reader not being supported
is nothing but a minor<br>
nuisance, since you don't even have to connect it to
your computer in order<br>
to use it for banking.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Marc Van Hoof <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mmvanh2@gmail.com" target="_blank">mmvanh2@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hoi, Go with your monny to Argenta. It's al for
free and you can<br>
> internetbanking via your browser.<br>
> Good luck, Marc<br>
><br>
> Op dinsdag 22 april 2014 heeft martijn cielen
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mcielen@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcielen@gmail.com</a>>
het<br>
> volgende geschreven:<br>
> > Odds are 100% they'll laugh at you and
charge you for moving your money.<br>
> ;-)<<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jurgen
Gaeremyn <<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be</a>>
wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Open a bank account at a different
bank and transfer away ?100 every<br>
> month - tell them you'll repeat that till the
account is empty. At that<br>
> point you'll completely move to the other bank.
Odds are they will become<br>
> more eager :)<br>
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> >> Grtz,<br>
> >> Jurgen.<br>
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> >> On 22-04-14 16:54, massimo21 wrote:<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Hello everyone.<br>
> >>> Just got the new Belfius card
reader. And Guess what. No Linux support!<br>
> >>> I Called them for that and they
told me if I did a petition there<br>
> would more<br>
> >>> chances that they will support it
in the future.<br>
> >>> If we can organize a petition and
send it beck to<br>
> >>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">belfiusdirectnet@belfius.be</a>
woud be nice.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Grtz,<br>
> >>> Massimiliano.<br>
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The problem must not be only for the flamish. All the world would be
able to use the cardreader with Linux. It is not normal that all
officiel programs are only for Microsoft OS or Mac OS.<br>
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