as jan pointed out, it will be crowdy at vooruit tomorrow evening, backstage, which is just across the street, seems a better place. and you can get a decent meal there as well, which is a plus. i cant pinpoint the time i can make it there 18h at best, 19h at worst, depends on the work. as bram pointed out, we can't stick a tux to our heads to recognize each other, but the place is much smaller then vooruit, so that wouldnt put up this big a problem. hope you can all make it, and we'll see how things develop. for those who can't make it thursday, there will be more opportunities next month i guess. (we could also make teams to spread ubuntu at the ghent computer fairs, who knows eh, these could also make great meeting moments afterwards:-) i'll bring along 'Ubuntu Hacks' in the O'Reilly series, which has a great hack to make Live-Ubuntu CD's persistant in  combination with a memory stick, so yo can take your favorite linux with your settings anywhere. cya p -- Linux usr #206738 Linux Counter <a href="http://counter.li.org">http://counter.li.org</a>