[Ubuntu-be] Android files Ubuntu

[Merlijn Sebrechts]

I'd like to add that, unlike Ubuntu Phone, android is not a linux
distribution. Android uses the linux kernel and some lo-level linux tools
like HAL but that's pretty much it. The similarities between android and
every other linux distribution end here.

Rooting an android phone has nothing to do with the root account as we know
it from Ubuntu. Rooting simply disables some security features. There is no
underlying unix/linux distro, just the java environment (that simulates
some unix functionality) + the linux kernel.

Ubuntu phone is quite similar to the current ubuntu desktop, it is
basically normal Ubuntu with unity8 (desktop is now unity7) with a
read-only root partition (so apt is disabled). All software gets installed
inside containers(a sandbox) in the users home directory. This allows for a
lot more guaranteed stability since every root partition of every ubuntu
phone is more or less the same. No more edge cases breaking upgrade..
Rooting the ubuntu phone is very easy. You remount the root partition so it
is writable. This doesn't have any effect on the security/sandboxing of the
apps, each app is still contained in a container. This does allow you to
use apt to install any ubuntu application (ubuntu touch repos are the same
as ubuntu desktop and server repos).

So if you are looking for an os that's stable, safe and very hackable I'd
really recommend Ubuntu touch. Although I'd recommend to wait for the
convergent device bq will bring out this year. I have the bq aquaris 4.5 at
the moment. I use it as my one and only phone, but it's a bit
underpowered...

This doesn't really help Jurgen, sorry for that. I just think it adds some
necessary context to the whole rooting discussion...

On-topic: Adb on ubuntu has the functionality to open a shell on the
android phone. You should be able to see the fs using cd and ls. I do not
think rooting is required, only dev mode...

Op zaterdag 2 januari 2016 heeft Jurgen Gaeremyn <jurgen at gaeremyn.be> het
volgende geschreven:
> Hey Samuel,
>
> I'd be hesitant to go rooting my phone. For starters, because Android is
> basically a crippled down version of Linux, in that way that it's not
> made to have a seperate sudo account. So if you give yourself root
> powers, any hack on your phone can touch the whole phone (and wreck it).
>
> By rooting it, you're basically taking away the Linux security Android
> has...
>
> Grtz,
> Jurgen
>
> On 22-12-15 17:56, 9100 at skynet.be wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to view all files (also the system files) that stay on my
>> android smart phone in Ubuntu. I don't know if it is smart to do, but I
>> want to delete some files, because I believe there is stay some 'crap'
>> on it.
>>
>> I have found 'QtADB'. Someone experience with it or know another program?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Samuel
>>
>> -------------
>>
>> Hallo,
>>
>> Ik zou graag alle bestanden (ook de systeem bestanden) die op mijn
>> Android smartphone staan bekijken.
>>
>> Er staan volgens mij zaken op die er niet op hoeven te staan en deze wil
>> ik eens verwijderen.
>>
>> Alvast bedankt !
>>
>> Samuel
>>
>
>
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