[Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

Thu May 19 07:13:21 UTC 2011

We could offer them for a symbolic price (eg € 2), this will imho
prevent people from just grabbing one and putting it in a drawer never
to come out again, as they paid for it. On the other hand they don't
have the feeling it has cost them an arm and a leg.

On a side note: when becoming a vzw, can't we talk to Canonical to let
Ubuntu-be offer an Ubuntu store on European main continent? If we
distribute resources and stock, this should be feasible without huge
investments. Just an idea.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Steven Leeman <steven at leeman.be> wrote:
> I wouldn't offer them for free imho?
> unless you can find such a sponsor?
> Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-)
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen <mcielen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
>> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts <jbongaerts at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Some more advantages:
>>  It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
>> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes
>> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.
>>
>> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
>> quicker too.
>>
>> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the
>> CD. We would have to charge money.
>>
>> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead
>> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
>> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the
>> usage of my bvba.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jan.
>>
>> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker <woutervddn at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Steven
>>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I
>>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
>>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea
>>> on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
>>> I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting
>>> (26/05/2011). Feel free to discus it there as well.
>>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I
>>> can think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
>>> - More durable than a CD
>>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
>>> - Can be updated
>>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like)
>>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising
>>> for us. (Free Publicity)
>>> - Also works for Netbook owners
>>> - Really awesome goodie.
>>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once
>>> we finally create it..)
>>> grts
>>>
>>> Wouter
>>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
>>> ________________________________
>>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 steven at leeman.be wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if
>>> I could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.
>>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB
>>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
>>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained
>>> another Ubuntero.
>>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...
>>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem...
>>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
>>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
>>> 4gbyte usb stick
>>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
>>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me
>>> following prices:
>>> model "Usb Incentive"
>>> : http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
>>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them
>>> Price/piece: €7,66
>>> Logo Print: €0,10
>>> Transport (China): €20,-
>>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
>>> 1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
>>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
>>> Price/piece €5,26
>>> Logo Print: €0,10
>>> Transport (China): €20,-
>>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
>>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB
>>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing of the
>>> logo in 2 colors.
>>> Printing costs per color are €0,05.
>>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal
>>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
>>>
>>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html ...
>>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
>>> usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...
>>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.
>>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
>>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with
>>> a small profit...
>>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...;
>>> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports
>>> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we aren't
>>> talking about USB hubs)
>>> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except
>>> when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a "clock"?)
>>> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something
>>> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick.
>>> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?
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