[Ubuntu-be] Talenkwestie

Arnaud Ongenae aongenae at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 20:41:59 BST 2008


I also encounter some problem of stability with Hardy, especially when
I start-stop-start some huge apps my computer totaly freeze and I have
no choice than restart it. I had no problem under gutsy (with the same
apps), but in general, hardy is much more friendly than gutsy...

--
_-Arnaud-_

mbp first gen

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Samuel Vandamme <samuel.v at sava.be> wrote:
> Volledig mee akkoord
>
> Goed een ubuntu vraag. 2 Eigenlijk.
>
> Ik draai de laatste beta van hardy en heb nogal problemen met de
> stabiliteit. Ik vroeg me af ik de enige en het te maken had met men hardware
> of dat er gewoon nog paar fouten zitten in de beta zelf. De crashes gebeuren
> vooral als ik compiz aan heb en video afspeel en firefox zelf is ook niet
> echt stabiel te noemen.
>
> ( Heeft iemand ook een compal ifl90, zoja werkt bij u de webcam ? )
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Arnaud Ongenae <aongenae at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Bonjour à tous,
> >
> > Cela ne fait pas une semaine que je me suis inscrit sur la liste... et
> > je n'ai pas vraiment vu de mail relatif à l'utilisation d'ubuntu.
> > Est-ce bien une liste sur ubuntu ? Laissons les problèmes
> > communautaire à nos ministres et occupons nous de ce qui nous
> > intéresse vraiment.
> >
> > Goedendag aan iedereen,
> >
> > Dat doet niet een week dat ik me heb ingeschreven op de lijst… en ik
> > heb bijna geen mail over ubuntu gezien.
> > Is het goed een lijst op ubuntu? Moeten we de communautair problemen
> > aan onze ministers en bezetten ons van wat ons echt interesseert.
> >
> > Hello everybody,
> > There is not a week since I register to the list... and I don't really
> > see any mail about ubuntu.
> > Is this list well relative to ubuntu ? I think that we have to let the
> > langage issue at our minister and speek on what interest us.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ongenae Arnaud
> >
> > note: sorry for the german speaking people but I really don't know german
> :(
> >
> > 2008/4/8 Samuel Vandamme <samuel.v at sava.be>:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ik vind dat iedereen zijn taal mag kiezen, mensen dwingen in een
> bepaalde
> > > taal heeft toch geen nut. Ik denk trouwens dat de meeste mensen wel
> > > engels/frans/nederlands kunnen lezen en deze dat het niet kunnen is het
> een
> > > perfecte oefening.
> > >
> > > MVG
> > > Samuel V.
> > >
> > > PS : Ben nieuwe op de mailinglist dus een 'groet' aan iedereen :)
> > >
> > > 2008/4/8 Steven Roose <stevenroose at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ik denk dat er veel meer walen zijn die geen nederlands kunnen en wel
> > > > engels dan dat er vlamingen zijn die geen engels kunnen.
> > > > daarom prefereer ik engels, de taal van de informatica, boven het
> > > > nederlands maar iedereen doet ermee wat hij wil.
> > > >
> > > > Walter Casselman wrote:
> > > > > We zijn Belgen, Vlamingen en Walen;
> > > > > Laat de Vamingen  met hun eigen taal op hun eigen Ubuntu, onze
> > > > > vrienden de Walen op de hun eigen franstalige  Ubuntu.
> > > > > Laten wij doorgaan in onze eigen taal.
> > > > > En laat ons, als het even kan, over Ubuntu problemen spreken. (zie
> nl)
> > > > > En dat kan best als we dat in onze eigen taal kunnen doen.
> > > > > Die het in Engels wil doen, doe maar, maar reken er op dat een veel
> > > > > mensen niet meer mee kunnen, en afhaken.
> > > > > Het zijn niet allemaal veeltalige bollebozen.
> > > > >
> > > > > Waltcass
> > > > > 2008/4/8, ubuntu-be-request at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > > <mailto:ubuntu-be-request at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> > > > >     Today's Topics:
> > > > >
> > > > >        1. Re:  Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > > >           Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > > >           (mongolito404)
> > > > >        2. Re:  Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > > >           Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > > >           ( Wouter Horr? )
> > > > >        3. Re:  about me (voorstelling) --> in Belgi? spreekt men
> drie
> > > > >           talen : engels, engels en engels. (Amedee Van Gasse)
> > > > >        4. Re:  Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > > >           Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > > >           (Amedee Van Gasse)
> > > > >        5. Re:  VOIP (Amedee Van Gasse)
> > > > >        6.  PIII's for free ... (kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>)
> > > > >        7. Re:  PIII's for free ... (Tom Van Braeckel)
> > > > >        8. Re:  PIII's for free ... (kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>)
> > > > >        9. Re:  PIII's for free ... (kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>)
> > > > >       10. Re:  Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > > >           Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > > >           (Pierre Lison)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 1
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:15:37 +0200
> > > > >     From: mongolito404 <mongolito404 at gmail.com
> > > > >     <mailto:mongolito404 at gmail.com>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> > > (voorstelling)
> > > > >             --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en
> > > > >     engels.]
> > > > >     To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID:
> > > > >
> <4e46f0fd0804080515w23c74da1g18da6594b50d65e3 at mail.gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > <mailto:4e46f0fd0804080515w23c74da1g18da6594b50d65e3 at mail.gmail.com>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > > > >
> > > > >     We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we don't
> have
> > > > >     one at the moment. If we did, this discussion would not have
> > > happened
> > > > >     because it started in Dutch.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be
> understood
> > > by
> > > > >     others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue every
> now
> > > > >     and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > > > >
> > > > >     On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Bart Broeckx <bart at ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:bart at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> > > > >     > Thx Wouter, that's exactly what I mean;.
> > > > >     > 2008/4/8, Wouter Horr? <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > > >     <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>:
> > > > >     > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Tom <ubuntu at virta.be
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu at virta.be>> wrote:
> > > > >     > > >  More importantly though, I don't see how language use
> could
> > > > >     > > >  influence the becoming (or not) of "a real" ubuntu-be
> > > > >     > > >  community.
> > > > >     > >
> > > > >     > > I think Bart meant that we might repel people that don't
> speak
> > > > >     english
> > > > >     > > well enough, if we stick to a strict english-only policy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     --
> > > > >     mongolito404, king of the mongolian people
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 2
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:17:31 +0200
> > > > >     From: " Wouter Horr? " <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > > >     <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> > > (voorstelling)
> > > > >             --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en
> > > > >     engels.]
> > > > >     To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID:
> > > > >
> <9943bca50804080717u5bec8db8qb7d2d94d3814d3b1 at mail.gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > <mailto:9943bca50804080717u5bec8db8qb7d2d94d3814d3b1 at mail.gmail.com>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >
> > > > >     Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >     On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:15 PM, mongolito404
> > > > >     <mongolito404 at gmail.com <mailto:mongolito404 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > >     > We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we
> don't
> > > have
> > > > >     >  one at the moment.
> > > > >
> > > > >     I'm sorry, I meant "if we would apply a strict ..."
> > > > >
> > > > >     >  Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be
> > > > >     understood by
> > > > >     >  others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue
> > > > >     every now
> > > > >     >  and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > > > >
> > > > >     I totally agree.
> > > > >
> > > > >     regards
> > > > >     Wouter
> > > > >
> > > > >     --
> > > > >     http://wouter.horre.be/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 3
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:30:17 +0200
> > > > >     From: Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be
> <mailto:amedee at amedee.be>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] about me (voorstelling) --> in Belgi?
> > > spreekt
> > > > >             men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.
> > > > >     To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <47FB8179.3040904 at amedee.be
> > > > >     <mailto:47FB8179.3040904 at amedee.be>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > > > >
> > > > >     Jan Claeys schreef:
> > > > >     > Op maandag 07-04-2008 om 22:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef
> > > > >     Koen Wybo:
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >> Maak dan a.u.b. gebruik van ??n van de drie erkende
> landstalen.
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Als we er ??n moeten kiezen, dan de "zwakste"?
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Sollen wir? ab jetzt? Deutsch reden?
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     Esperanto is toch ooit een landstaal geweest? Van dat dorpje op
> het
> > > > >     drielandenpunt BE-NL-DE, dat ooit een "land" op zich was maar nu
> > > > >     bij BE
> > > > >     hoort. De naam ontsnapt me even.
> > > > >     Nu ja landstaal. Het was vooral folklore en goed voor het
> toerisme.
> > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 4
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:35:34 +0200
> > > > >     From: Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be
> <mailto:amedee at amedee.be>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> > > (voorstelling)
> > > > >             --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en
> > > > >     engels.]
> > > > >     To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <47FB82B6.1070201 at amedee.be
> > > > >     <mailto:47FB82B6.1070201 at amedee.be>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > > >
> > > > >     mongolito404 schreef:
> > > > >     > We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we
> don't
> > > have
> > > > >     > one at the moment. If we did, this discussion would not have
> > > > >     happened
> > > > >     > because it started in Dutch.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be
> > > > >     understood by
> > > > >     > others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue
> every
> > > now
> > > > >     > and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     En nu we toch bezig zijn, how about the top-post/bottom-post
> issue?
> > > > >     Do we have a consensus there? Je ne pense pas... ;-)
> > > > >     (just my 2 cents)
> > > > >     > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Bart Broeckx <bart at ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:bart at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >> Thx Wouter, that's exactly what I mean;.
> > > > >     >> 2008/4/8, Wouter Horr? <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > > >     <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>:
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Tom <ubuntu at virta.be
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu at virta.be>> wrote:
> > > > >     >>>
> > > > >     >>>>  More importantly though, I don't see how language use
> could
> > > > >     >>>>  influence the becoming (or not) of "a real" ubuntu-be
> > > > >     >>>>  community.
> > > > >     >>>>
> > > > >     >>> I think Bart meant that we might repel people that don't
> speak
> > > > >     english
> > > > >     >>> well enough, if we stick to a strict english-only policy.
> > > > >     >>>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 5
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:44:13 +0200
> > > > >     From: Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be
> <mailto:amedee at amedee.be>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] VOIP
> > > > >     To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <47FB84BD.3080609 at amedee.be
> > > > >     <mailto:47FB84BD.3080609 at amedee.be>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > > >
> > > > >     Ga?tan Frenoy schreef:
> > > > >     > Good morning Amedee,
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Le Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:43:03 +0200, Amedee Van Gasse ?crivait:
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >> I have only one question. What is the name of the alternative
> > > > >     based on
> > > > >     >> SIP that you use?
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > I used Ekiga (http://ekiga.org/) and twinkle
> > > > >     > (http://www.twinklephone.com) but now I switched to a hardware
> > > phone
> > > > >     > which is more comfortable and reliable (you don't leave your
> > > > >     computer
> > > > >     > on the whole night and day, do you?).
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >> And I mean software as well as network.
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Network?  What do you mean?  It's just the internet and you
> can
> > > call
> > > > >     > any IP address on this network.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > If you mean provider and the fact that you can easily call
> other
> > > > >     > customers from the same provider, see below.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     Uiteraard bedoelde ik de provider. Dat is dus het probleem
> wanneer
> > > je
> > > > >     iets probeert uit te leggen in een taal die niet je moedertaal
> is.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >> Please also mention your cost for calling to landlines with
> > > > >     your voip
> > > > >     >> solution.
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > There are so many providers worldwide!  I would be surprise
> you
> > > > >     don't
> > > > >     > find one that have the best tariff for your favorite
> destination.
> > > > >     > That's the main advantage : you are free to choose and you are
> not
> > > > >     > locked in the tariff of your unique provider! Note that this
> can
> > > be
> > > > >     > seen as a disadvantage too since it's hard to choose.  Note
> also
> > > > >     that
> > > > >     > all providers are not strong on all destinations so you might
> > > > >     have to
> > > > >     > work with two or three providers according to your usage.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     Inderdaad, te veel keuze is ook niet goed, want dan zie je de
> > > > >     bomen niet
> > > > >     meer door het bos.
> > > > >     > Please also be sure that this is a trade-off between price and
> > > > >     > quality.  Don't expect high quality if you don't pay anything
> to
> > > > >     your
> > > > >     > provider...
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > If in doubt, I can suggest a Belgian provider I work with.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     Dat zou leuk zijn. Want uiteindelijk is dit een Belgische
> > > mailinglijst
> > > > >     en we zijn niet veel met Amerikaanse of Australische providers.
> :)
> > > > >     > But, to give a rough idea, I've already called landlines in
> > > > >     Belgium from
> > > > >     > 0 (zero) cent to 2.7 cents / minute.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > From computer to computer, this is always free[1], for sure.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >> And while you're at it, please document it somewhere on the
> > > > >     Ubuntu wiki.
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Well, Ekiga is part of the Ubuntu core :
> > > > >     >   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Would it be interesting to work on a "Belgianized" version...?
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     Het zou - denk ik - vooral interessant zijn om ergens een lijst
> te
> > > > >     hebben van al die Belgische providers. Vind ze nu maar eens.
> > > > >     Als ze allemaal bij elkaar staan, dan wordt het al wat
> > > > >     gemakkelijker om
> > > > >     te gaan vergelijken.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Volgens mij is niet het gebrek aan software de grootste drempel
> voor
> > > > >     SIP-based telefonie, maar wel het gebrek aan bekendheid van de
> > > > >     providers.
> > > > >     Dat is nu net een marktvoordeel van Skype: dat zij software ?n
> > > > >     provider
> > > > >     kunnen bundelen.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 6
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:51:59 +0000
> > > > >     From: "kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>"
> > > > >     <kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>>
> > > > >     Subject: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > > >     To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <W661327873228551207666319 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be
> > > > >     <mailto:W661327873228551207666319 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > > >
> > > > >     Dear list,
> > > > >
> > > > >     If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III
> PC's
> > > > >     let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office today and
> > > > >     found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide
> quick,
> > > > >     because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >     Kenneth
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 7
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:57:24 +0200
> > > > >     From: Tom Van Braeckel <tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com
> > > > >     <mailto:tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > > >     To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <1207666644.24756.89.camel at pc-tvb>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain
> > > > >
> > > > >     - Not right now, but thanks for asking because I sometimes need
> > > > >     old pc's
> > > > >     like that.
> > > > >     - Are you sure you'll send them to the dumpster ? With about the
> > > same
> > > > >     effort, you could send them to a charity that recycles them.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Tom.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Op dinsdag 08-04-2008 om 14:51 uur [tijdzone +0000], schreef
> > > > >     kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>:
> > > > >     > Dear list,
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III
> > > > >     PC's let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office
> today
> > > > >     and found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide
> > > > >     quick, because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > regards,
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     > Kenneth
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 8
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:04:38 +0000
> > > > >     From: "kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>"
> > > > >     <kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > > >     To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>,      "Ubuntu Belgium"
> > > > >             <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <W6688916792157181207667078 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be
> > > > >     <mailto:W6688916792157181207667078 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > > >
> > > > >     Well, if you can point me to the correct people, we are (of
> > > > >     course) willing to send them to charity as well :)
> > > > >     I already did this for Lindia project
> > > > >     (http://wiki.go-opensource.org/taskforce/EduProj) a while ago.
> > > > >
> > > > >     >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > > > >     >Van: Tom Van Braeckel [mailto:tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com
> > > > >     <mailto:tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com>]
> > > > >     >Verzonden: dinsdag, april 8, 2008 04:57 PM
> > > > >     >Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium'
> > > > >     >Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >- Not right now, but thanks for asking because I sometimes need
> > > > >     old pc's
> > > > >     >like that.
> > > > >     >- Are you sure you'll send them to the dumpster ? With about
> the
> > > same
> > > > >     >effort, you could send them to a charity that recycles them.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >Tom.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >Op dinsdag 08-04-2008 om 14:51 uur [tijdzone +0000], schreef
> > > > >     >kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>:
> > > > >     >> Dear list,
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >> If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III
> > > > >     PC's let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office
> today
> > > > >     and found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide
> > > > >     quick, because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >> regards,
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >> Kenneth
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >--
> > > > >     >ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > > >     >
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> > > > >     >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 9
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:58:56 +0000
> > > > >     From: "kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>"
> > > > >     <kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > > >     To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <W6669832404311691207666736 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be
> > > > >     <mailto:W6669832404311691207666736 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > > >
> > > > >     Oh yes, and we're giving them away for free :)
> > > > >     (of course)
> > > > >
> > > > >     >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > > > >     >Van: kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>
> > > > >     [mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> > > > >     <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>]
> > > > >     >Verzonden: dinsdag, april 8, 2008 04:51 PM
> > > > >     >Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium'
> > > > >     >Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >Dear list,
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III
> PC's
> > > > >     let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office today and
> > > > >     found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide
> quick,
> > > > >     because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >regards,
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >Kenneth
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >--
> > > > >     >ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
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> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     ------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >     Message: 10
> > > > >     Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:13:02 +0200
> > > > >     From: Pierre Lison <plison at agora.eu.org
> > > <mailto:plison at agora.eu.org>>
> > > > >     Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> > > (voorstelling)
> > > > >             --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels
> > > > >     en        engels.]
> > > > >     To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > > >     Message-ID: <1207667582.23538.30.camel at localhost>
> > > > >     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     Hi there,
> > > > >
> > > > >     Another 2 cents:  I think this whole debate on language(s) to be
> > > > >     used on
> > > > >     this mailing list is really a *non-issue*.  We should not waste
> > > > >     our time
> > > > >     discussing that over and over again every month.
> > > > >
> > > > >     I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of French speakers
> > > > >     registered on
> > > > >     this mailing list are able to read Dutch (though they may feel
> less
> > > > >     confident writing in this language), and the same holds for
> Dutch
> > > > >     speakers reading emails written in French.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Most of the messages posted on this mailing-list are less than
> 15
> > > > >     lines
> > > > >     long - even when one isn't perfectly fluent in Dutch or French,
> > > > >     understanding these few lines of text shouldn't be an impossible
> > > task.
> > > > >     And the messages written here are usually no literary prose ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >     So my suggestion is: let's just let people write as they want
> to,
> > > and
> > > > >     forget about enforcing strict language policies of any kind.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >     Pierre
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     Am Dienstag, den 08.04.2008, 16:35 +0200 schrieb Amedee Van
> Gasse:
> > > > >     > mongolito404 schreef:
> > > > >     > > We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we
> > > > >     don't have
> > > > >     > > one at the moment. If we did, this discussion would not have
> > > > >     happened
> > > > >     > > because it started in Dutch.
> > > > >     > >
> > > > >     > > Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be
> > > > >     understood by
> > > > >     > > others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue
> > > > >     every now
> > > > >     > > and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > > > >     > >
> > > > >     > En nu we toch bezig zijn, how about the top-post/bottom-post
> > > issue?
> > > > >     > Do we have a consensus there? Je ne pense pas... ;-)
> > > > >     > (just my 2 cents)
> > > > >     > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Bart Broeckx
> <bart at ubuntu.com
> > > > >     <mailto:bart at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> > > > >     > >
> > > > >     > >> Thx Wouter, that's exactly what I mean;.
> > > > >     > >> 2008/4/8, Wouter Horr? <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > > >     <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>:
> > > > >     > >>
> > > > >     > >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Tom <ubuntu at virta.be
> > > > >     <mailto:ubuntu at virta.be>> wrote:
> > > > >     > >>>
> > > > >     > >>>>  More importantly though, I don't see how language use
> could
> > > > >     > >>>>  influence the becoming (or not) of "a real" ubuntu-be
> > > > >     > >>>>  community.
> > > > >     > >>>>
> > > > >     > >>> I think Bart meant that we might repel people that don't
> > > > >     speak english
> > > > >     > >>> well enough, if we stick to a strict english-only policy.
> > > > >     > >>>
> > > > >     > >
> > > > >     > >
> > > > >     > >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     >
> > > > >     --
> > > > >     Pierre Lison (student in Computational Linguistics)
> > > > >     Blumenstra?e 17,        Web:
> www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~pierrel
> > > > >     <http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/%7Epierrel>
> > > > >     66111 Saarbr?cken       Mobile: +49.177.305.306.1
> > > > >
> > > > >
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