[Ubuntu-be] Talenkwestie
Arnaud Ongenae
aongenae at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 19:58:25 BST 2008
Bonjour à tous,
Cela ne fait pas une semaine que je me suis inscrit sur la liste... et
je n'ai pas vraiment vu de mail relatif à l'utilisation d'ubuntu.
Est-ce bien une liste sur ubuntu ? Laissons les problèmes
communautaire à nos ministres et occupons nous de ce qui nous
intéresse vraiment.
Goedendag aan iedereen,
Dat doet niet een week dat ik me heb ingeschreven op de lijst… en ik
heb bijna geen mail over ubuntu gezien.
Is het goed een lijst op ubuntu? Moeten we de communautair problemen
aan onze ministers en bezetten ons van wat ons echt interesseert.
Hello everybody,
There is not a week since I register to the list... and I don't really
see any mail about ubuntu.
Is this list well relative to ubuntu ? I think that we have to let the
langage issue at our minister and speek on what interest us.
--
Ongenae Arnaud
note: sorry for the german speaking people but I really don't know german :(
2008/4/8 Samuel Vandamme <samuel.v at sava.be>:
> Ik vind dat iedereen zijn taal mag kiezen, mensen dwingen in een bepaalde
> taal heeft toch geen nut. Ik denk trouwens dat de meeste mensen wel
> engels/frans/nederlands kunnen lezen en deze dat het niet kunnen is het een
> perfecte oefening.
>
> MVG
> Samuel V.
>
> PS : Ben nieuwe op de mailinglist dus een 'groet' aan iedereen :)
>
> 2008/4/8 Steven Roose <stevenroose at gmail.com>:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ik denk dat er veel meer walen zijn die geen nederlands kunnen en wel
> > engels dan dat er vlamingen zijn die geen engels kunnen.
> > daarom prefereer ik engels, de taal van de informatica, boven het
> > nederlands maar iedereen doet ermee wat hij wil.
> >
> > Walter Casselman wrote:
> > > We zijn Belgen, Vlamingen en Walen;
> > > Laat de Vamingen met hun eigen taal op hun eigen Ubuntu, onze
> > > vrienden de Walen op de hun eigen franstalige Ubuntu.
> > > Laten wij doorgaan in onze eigen taal.
> > > En laat ons, als het even kan, over Ubuntu problemen spreken. (zie nl)
> > > En dat kan best als we dat in onze eigen taal kunnen doen.
> > > Die het in Engels wil doen, doe maar, maar reken er op dat een veel
> > > mensen niet meer mee kunnen, en afhaken.
> > > Het zijn niet allemaal veeltalige bollebozen.
> > >
> > > Waltcass
> > > 2008/4/8, ubuntu-be-request at lists.ubuntu.com
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> > >
> > > 1. Re: Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > (mongolito404)
> > > 2. Re: Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > ( Wouter Horr? )
> > > 3. Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie
> > > talen : engels, engels en engels. (Amedee Van Gasse)
> > > 4. Re: Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > (Amedee Van Gasse)
> > > 5. Re: VOIP (Amedee Van Gasse)
> > > 6. PIII's for free ... (kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>)
> > > 7. Re: PIII's for free ... (Tom Van Braeckel)
> > > 8. Re: PIII's for free ... (kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>)
> > > 9. Re: PIII's for free ... (kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>)
> > > 10. Re: Talen enzo [was: Re: about me (voorstelling) --> in
> > > Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.]
> > > (Pierre Lison)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:15:37 +0200
> > > From: mongolito404 <mongolito404 at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:mongolito404 at gmail.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> (voorstelling)
> > > --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en
> > > engels.]
> > > To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <4e46f0fd0804080515w23c74da1g18da6594b50d65e3 at mail.gmail.com
> > >
> <mailto:4e46f0fd0804080515w23c74da1g18da6594b50d65e3 at mail.gmail.com>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > >
> > > We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we don't have
> > > one at the moment. If we did, this discussion would not have
> happened
> > > because it started in Dutch.
> > >
> > > Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be understood
> by
> > > others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue every now
> > > and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Bart Broeckx <bart at ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:bart at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> > > > Thx Wouter, that's exactly what I mean;.
> > > > 2008/4/8, Wouter Horr? <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>:
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Tom <ubuntu at virta.be
> > > <mailto:ubuntu at virta.be>> wrote:
> > > > > > More importantly though, I don't see how language use could
> > > > > > influence the becoming (or not) of "a real" ubuntu-be
> > > > > > community.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think Bart meant that we might repel people that don't speak
> > > english
> > > > > well enough, if we stick to a strict english-only policy.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > mongolito404, king of the mongolian people
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:17:31 +0200
> > > From: " Wouter Horr? " <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> (voorstelling)
> > > --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en
> > > engels.]
> > > To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <9943bca50804080717u5bec8db8qb7d2d94d3814d3b1 at mail.gmail.com
> > >
> <mailto:9943bca50804080717u5bec8db8qb7d2d94d3814d3b1 at mail.gmail.com>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 2:15 PM, mongolito404
> > > <mongolito404 at gmail.com <mailto:mongolito404 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we don't
> have
> > > > one at the moment.
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, I meant "if we would apply a strict ..."
> > >
> > > > Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be
> > > understood by
> > > > others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue
> > > every now
> > > > and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > >
> > > I totally agree.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Wouter
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://wouter.horre.be/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:30:17 +0200
> > > From: Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be <mailto:amedee at amedee.be>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] about me (voorstelling) --> in Belgi?
> spreekt
> > > men drie talen : engels, engels en engels.
> > > To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <47FB8179.3040904 at amedee.be
> > > <mailto:47FB8179.3040904 at amedee.be>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> > >
> > > Jan Claeys schreef:
> > > > Op maandag 07-04-2008 om 22:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef
> > > Koen Wybo:
> > > >
> > > >> Maak dan a.u.b. gebruik van ??n van de drie erkende landstalen.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Als we er ??n moeten kiezen, dan de "zwakste"?
> > > >
> > > > Sollen wir? ab jetzt? Deutsch reden?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Esperanto is toch ooit een landstaal geweest? Van dat dorpje op het
> > > drielandenpunt BE-NL-DE, dat ooit een "land" op zich was maar nu
> > > bij BE
> > > hoort. De naam ontsnapt me even.
> > > Nu ja landstaal. Het was vooral folklore en goed voor het toerisme.
> :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:35:34 +0200
> > > From: Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be <mailto:amedee at amedee.be>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> (voorstelling)
> > > --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels en
> > > engels.]
> > > To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <47FB82B6.1070201 at amedee.be
> > > <mailto:47FB82B6.1070201 at amedee.be>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > >
> > > mongolito404 schreef:
> > > > We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we don't
> have
> > > > one at the moment. If we did, this discussion would not have
> > > happened
> > > > because it started in Dutch.
> > > >
> > > > Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be
> > > understood by
> > > > others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue every
> now
> > > > and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > > >
> > > En nu we toch bezig zijn, how about the top-post/bottom-post issue?
> > > Do we have a consensus there? Je ne pense pas... ;-)
> > > (just my 2 cents)
> > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Bart Broeckx <bart at ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:bart at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thx Wouter, that's exactly what I mean;.
> > > >> 2008/4/8, Wouter Horr? <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Tom <ubuntu at virta.be
> > > <mailto:ubuntu at virta.be>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> More importantly though, I don't see how language use could
> > > >>>> influence the becoming (or not) of "a real" ubuntu-be
> > > >>>> community.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> I think Bart meant that we might repel people that don't speak
> > > english
> > > >>> well enough, if we stick to a strict english-only policy.
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:44:13 +0200
> > > From: Amedee Van Gasse <amedee at amedee.be <mailto:amedee at amedee.be>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] VOIP
> > > To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <47FB84BD.3080609 at amedee.be
> > > <mailto:47FB84BD.3080609 at amedee.be>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > >
> > > Ga?tan Frenoy schreef:
> > > > Good morning Amedee,
> > > >
> > > > Le Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:43:03 +0200, Amedee Van Gasse ?crivait:
> > > >
> > > >> I have only one question. What is the name of the alternative
> > > based on
> > > >> SIP that you use?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I used Ekiga (http://ekiga.org/) and twinkle
> > > > (http://www.twinklephone.com) but now I switched to a hardware
> phone
> > > > which is more comfortable and reliable (you don't leave your
> > > computer
> > > > on the whole night and day, do you?).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> And I mean software as well as network.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Network? What do you mean? It's just the internet and you can
> call
> > > > any IP address on this network.
> > > >
> > > > If you mean provider and the fact that you can easily call other
> > > > customers from the same provider, see below.
> > > >
> > > Uiteraard bedoelde ik de provider. Dat is dus het probleem wanneer
> je
> > > iets probeert uit te leggen in een taal die niet je moedertaal is.
> > > >
> > > >> Please also mention your cost for calling to landlines with
> > > your voip
> > > >> solution.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > There are so many providers worldwide! I would be surprise you
> > > don't
> > > > find one that have the best tariff for your favorite destination.
> > > > That's the main advantage : you are free to choose and you are not
> > > > locked in the tariff of your unique provider! Note that this can
> be
> > > > seen as a disadvantage too since it's hard to choose. Note also
> > > that
> > > > all providers are not strong on all destinations so you might
> > > have to
> > > > work with two or three providers according to your usage.
> > > >
> > > Inderdaad, te veel keuze is ook niet goed, want dan zie je de
> > > bomen niet
> > > meer door het bos.
> > > > Please also be sure that this is a trade-off between price and
> > > > quality. Don't expect high quality if you don't pay anything to
> > > your
> > > > provider...
> > > >
> > > > If in doubt, I can suggest a Belgian provider I work with.
> > > >
> > > Dat zou leuk zijn. Want uiteindelijk is dit een Belgische
> mailinglijst
> > > en we zijn niet veel met Amerikaanse of Australische providers. :)
> > > > But, to give a rough idea, I've already called landlines in
> > > Belgium from
> > > > 0 (zero) cent to 2.7 cents / minute.
> > > >
> > > > From computer to computer, this is always free[1], for sure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> And while you're at it, please document it somewhere on the
> > > Ubuntu wiki.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Well, Ekiga is part of the Ubuntu core :
> > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga
> > > >
> > > > Would it be interesting to work on a "Belgianized" version...?
> > > >
> > > Het zou - denk ik - vooral interessant zijn om ergens een lijst te
> > > hebben van al die Belgische providers. Vind ze nu maar eens.
> > > Als ze allemaal bij elkaar staan, dan wordt het al wat
> > > gemakkelijker om
> > > te gaan vergelijken.
> > >
> > > Volgens mij is niet het gebrek aan software de grootste drempel voor
> > > SIP-based telefonie, maar wel het gebrek aan bekendheid van de
> > > providers.
> > > Dat is nu net een marktvoordeel van Skype: dat zij software ?n
> > > provider
> > > kunnen bundelen.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:51:59 +0000
> > > From: "kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>"
> > > <kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>>
> > > Subject: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <W661327873228551207666319 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be
> > > <mailto:W661327873228551207666319 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III PC's
> > > let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office today and
> > > found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide quick,
> > > because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > >
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Kenneth
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:57:24 +0200
> > > From: Tom Van Braeckel <tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <1207666644.24756.89.camel at pc-tvb>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain
> > >
> > > - Not right now, but thanks for asking because I sometimes need
> > > old pc's
> > > like that.
> > > - Are you sure you'll send them to the dumpster ? With about the
> same
> > > effort, you could send them to a charity that recycles them.
> > >
> > > Tom.
> > >
> > > Op dinsdag 08-04-2008 om 14:51 uur [tijdzone +0000], schreef
> > > kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>:
> > > > Dear list,
> > > >
> > > > If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III
> > > PC's let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office today
> > > and found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide
> > > quick, because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > >
> > > > Kenneth
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:04:38 +0000
> > > From: "kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>"
> > > <kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>, "Ubuntu Belgium"
> > > <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <W6688916792157181207667078 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be
> > > <mailto:W6688916792157181207667078 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > Well, if you can point me to the correct people, we are (of
> > > course) willing to send them to charity as well :)
> > > I already did this for Lindia project
> > > (http://wiki.go-opensource.org/taskforce/EduProj) a while ago.
> > >
> > > >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > > >Van: Tom Van Braeckel [mailto:tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:tomvanbraeckel at gmail.com>]
> > > >Verzonden: dinsdag, april 8, 2008 04:57 PM
> > > >Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium'
> > > >Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > >
> > > >- Not right now, but thanks for asking because I sometimes need
> > > old pc's
> > > >like that.
> > > >- Are you sure you'll send them to the dumpster ? With about the
> same
> > > >effort, you could send them to a charity that recycles them.
> > > >
> > > >Tom.
> > > >
> > > >Op dinsdag 08-04-2008 om 14:51 uur [tijdzone +0000], schreef
> > > >kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>:
> > > >> Dear list,
> > > >>
> > > >> If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III
> > > PC's let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office today
> > > and found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide
> > > quick, because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Kenneth
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
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> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 9
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:58:56 +0000
> > > From: "kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>"
> > > <kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > To: "Ubuntu Belgium" <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <W6669832404311691207666736 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be
> > > <mailto:W6669832404311691207666736 at nocme1bl6.telenet-ops.be>>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > Oh yes, and we're giving them away for free :)
> > > (of course)
> > >
> > > >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > > >Van: kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at pandora.be>
> > > [mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be
> > > <mailto:kenneth.westelinck at telenet.be>]
> > > >Verzonden: dinsdag, april 8, 2008 04:51 PM
> > > >Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium'
> > > >Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] PIII's for free ...
> > > >
> > > >Dear list,
> > > >
> > > >If there is anyone interested in one or more IBM Pentium III PC's
> > > let me know. We cleaned out the basement of our office today and
> > > found 10 of them. If you're interested let me know. Decide quick,
> > > because we're sending them to the dumpster otherwise.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >regards,
> > > >
> > > >Kenneth
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> > > >
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> > > Message: 10
> > > Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:13:02 +0200
> > > From: Pierre Lison <plison at agora.eu.org
> <mailto:plison at agora.eu.org>>
> > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talen enzo [was: Re: about me
> (voorstelling)
> > > --> in Belgi? spreekt men drie talen : engels, engels
> > > en engels.]
> > > To: Ubuntu Belgium <ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com>>
> > > Message-ID: <1207667582.23538.30.camel at localhost>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > Another 2 cents: I think this whole debate on language(s) to be
> > > used on
> > > this mailing list is really a *non-issue*. We should not waste
> > > our time
> > > discussing that over and over again every month.
> > >
> > > I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of French speakers
> > > registered on
> > > this mailing list are able to read Dutch (though they may feel less
> > > confident writing in this language), and the same holds for Dutch
> > > speakers reading emails written in French.
> > >
> > > Most of the messages posted on this mailing-list are less than 15
> > > lines
> > > long - even when one isn't perfectly fluent in Dutch or French,
> > > understanding these few lines of text shouldn't be an impossible
> task.
> > > And the messages written here are usually no literary prose ;-)
> > >
> > > So my suggestion is: let's just let people write as they want to,
> and
> > > forget about enforcing strict language policies of any kind.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Pierre
> > >
> > >
> > > Am Dienstag, den 08.04.2008, 16:35 +0200 schrieb Amedee Van Gasse:
> > > > mongolito404 schreef:
> > > > > We can't stick to a strict english-only policy because we
> > > don't have
> > > > > one at the moment. If we did, this discussion would not have
> > > happened
> > > > > because it started in Dutch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Couldn't each of us do his/her best to understand and be
> > > understood by
> > > > > others? Do we really have to pop this language (non-)issue
> > > every now
> > > > > and then ? Is it that hard ?
> > > > >
> > > > En nu we toch bezig zijn, how about the top-post/bottom-post
> issue?
> > > > Do we have a consensus there? Je ne pense pas... ;-)
> > > > (just my 2 cents)
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Bart Broeckx <bart at ubuntu.com
> > > <mailto:bart at ubuntu.com>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thx Wouter, that's exactly what I mean;.
> > > > >> 2008/4/8, Wouter Horr? <wouter+ubuntu at horre.be
> > > <mailto:wouter%2Bubuntu at horre.be>>:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Tom <ubuntu at virta.be
> > > <mailto:ubuntu at virta.be>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> More importantly though, I don't see how language use could
> > > > >>>> influence the becoming (or not) of "a real" ubuntu-be
> > > > >>>> community.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>> I think Bart meant that we might repel people that don't
> > > speak english
> > > > >>> well enough, if we stick to a strict english-only policy.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Pierre Lison (student in Computational Linguistics)
> > > Blumenstra?e 17, Web: www.coli.uni-saarland.de/~pierrel
> > > <http://www.coli.uni-saarland.de/%7Epierrel>
> > > 66111 Saarbr?cken Mobile: +49.177.305.306.1
> > >
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> > > Yvette en Walt
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