From mongolito404 at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 14:26:54 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:26:54 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for the testing. I will investigate these problems asap. Concerning the confirmation code, as (badly) explained at the top of the password lost page, password recovery is a two steps process. First fill only the email field, if a supporter with that email is registered, an email with the confirmation code is sent. Then, fill both fields and a new password will be sent to you by email. If you have suggestions for a better explanation, feels free to mail me or, better, fill a bug report with your suggestion in it. PS: It's easier for me if bugs are reported through Launchpad bugs tracking system (https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bugs). But every bug report is welcome, sending them by mail or by pigeon as fine. On 4/2/07, Marc Portier wrote: > > > > > > Fran?ois Cauwe wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > During the meeting this evening Pierre aka Mongolito404 asked everybody > > to call the almost finished 'support-point' software. It only need some > > good testing before it can go live! > > > > * I've seen there is some utf-8 issue with "Isma??l" > > > var infoTabs196_196 = [ new GInfoWindowTab('Supporter', 'Isma??l, expert
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')] > > var marker196_196 = new GMarker( new GLatLng(50.8881, 3.3841) ); > > GEvent.addListener(marker196_196, "click", function() { marker196_196.openInfoWindowTabs(infoTabs196_196); }); > > map.addOverlay(marker196_196); > > > * to check if this isn't related to old test data in the system I tried > to add a new user to the system: > * during that phase I violated some valdation rules (password too > short, non belgian zipcode (?)...) and I must say some RED indicating > what and where the error is should help allong with some general > feedback THAT THERE IS AN ERROR > * ultimately I don't get any more validation errors reported, but > still I fail to register this new guy named "I?t?rn?ti?n?liz?ti?n Test" > (I don't get email, I don't get to see the new peep, I don't get a > form-submit feedback that talks about "SUCCES") > > By the way, for some general advise on i18n, and the good test-string, > see http://www.intertwingly.net/stories/2004/04/14/i18n.html > > > * Furthermore: I can't get into my own 'old' record about me. I'm not > sure I remember my password, but I'm very sure I don't remember the > "confirmation code" > Frankly I think this confirmation code idea is not a good idea: since > anyone forgetting his password will almost never have remembered this > confirmation code IMHO > Sorry if I've missed earlier discussions on this approach, but I think > it is fundamentally broken. > > regards, > -marc= > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From mongolito404 at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 13:05:48 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:05:48 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] reminder: e-meeting tonight In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704020504n6b023faco3fa2620f006582b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0703290626j7f72ad39yd8dfc9a2ce83bd67@mail.gmail.com> <1175194536.5239.6.camel@kevin-desktop> <460C2771.5060500@skynet.be> <6d731d6e0703291358l780d39d6v730fbd26fff332b6@mail.gmail.com> <1175204492.1452.12.camel@localhost> <4e46f0fd0704020504n6b023faco3fa2620f006582b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704020505p12e70e39l3cd118ef4d5dca14@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, I hit RETURN before finishing my mail... On 4/2/07, mongolito404 wrote: > But I agree, there is a need for an easy documentation on how to join. > I've also seen that there is a pure web firefox compatible Jabber > client (http://jwchat.sourceforge.net/), When I found time (so after > the 1st map deployment), I want to test if it can be insta installed to provide an easy account creation interface and automatically open the meeting "discussion" on user log on. -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From laurent.pirotte at skynet.be Mon Apr 2 23:03:05 2007 From: laurent.pirotte at skynet.be (Laurent Pirotte) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 00:03:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters & Feisty Fawn CDs at WEXS2007 ? Message-ID: <200704030003.05779.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> Hi, The next 3, 4 & 5 may we want to be present at the WEXS fair to present ubuntu & free software (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/WEXS_2007). We are looking for information about where we can download Ubuntu promotionial posters and where we can print them at the best price. We also wish to distribute Feisty Fawn CDs. Do somebody know where we can press a large number of CDs at lower cost ? Maybe if other people are interested, we can order them together and lower the costs. If you are interested, don't hesitate to contact me. Regards -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurent Pirotte Laurent.Pirotte at skynet.be http://users.skynet.be/pirotte.lenders/laurent/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Essayez l'open source, testez Kubuntu ! http://www.kubuntu-fr.org/ http://www.getgnulinux.org/fr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- From mongolito404 at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 10:14:31 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:14:31 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters & Feisty Fawn CDs at WEXS2007 ? In-Reply-To: <200704030003.05779.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> References: <200704030003.05779.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704030214i3c6f512bncd4553ee5ffc3518@mail.gmail.com> Hi, For marketing material check http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/spreadubuntu/, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryMarketing. Feisty Fawn is to be released on the 19th april, you won't have a stable release for the WEXS (especially if you need to burn/press CDs in advance) . System installed using these CDs will be needs updates ASAP once Feisty is released and the installer may be broken. This is probably a better idea to distribute Edgy (or even Dapper) CDs and explain that a new release is due on the 19th. Also explain that installed system can be updated with a GUI and that CDs can be downloaded on the release day or requested through shipit or through our map (the new map should be in production before the WEXS). On 4/3/07, Laurent Pirotte wrote: > Hi, > > The next 3, 4 & 5 may we want to be present at the WEXS fair to present ubuntu > & free software (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/WEXS_2007). > > We are looking for information about where we can download Ubuntu promotionial > posters and where we can print them at the best price. > > We also wish to distribute Feisty Fawn CDs. Do somebody know where we can > press a large number of CDs at lower cost ? -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From mvdborre at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 10:28:38 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:28:38 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu courses? -> please add to wiki Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704030228q3f428da1yc24603835347c62e@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, We often get questions about where to learn about Ubuntu in a formal course environment. I just created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Education/NL/Courses . I am 100% sure there must be more courses offered. Please add! Sincerely, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From mpo at outerthought.org Tue Apr 3 10:38:39 2007 From: mpo at outerthought.org (Marc Portier) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 11:38:39 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu courses? -> please add to wiki In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704030228q3f428da1yc24603835347c62e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704030228q3f428da1yc24603835347c62e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4612209F.3080101@outerthought.org> Mark Van den Borre wrote: > Hi all, > > We often get questions about where to learn about Ubuntu in a formal > course environment. I just created > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Education/NL/Courses . > > I am 100% sure there must be more courses offered. Please add! > geen idee of je die ook wilt vermelden, maar bisvlaanderen heeft er ook ene (schriftelijk welliswaar) http://www.bis.vlaanderen.be/cursussen/ca_info_specifiek.html#linux hm, 'breezy' en 'nieuw' staan daar samen :-( -marc= From marcsje at fulladsl.be Tue Apr 3 12:33:51 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:33:51 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> Mark Van den Borre schreef: > Hi all, > > Someone who wants to stay anonymous just donated 50? to ubuntu-be.org > via my personal bank account. > > Ubuntu-be.org currently has 140+ this 50? = 190? . I will wire this > sum to the ubuntu-be.org bank account as soon as it exists. The > application for that is being processed by Keytrade Bank right now. > > Mark > Ik heb zonet geklaagd bijk IVVO.be over containerparken: er wordt enorm veel (computer)materiaal gedumpt dat NOG WERKT. Als enkel mensen/vrijwilligers zouden toegelaten worden, zou je in geen tijd een park van linux computers hebben, en om ze af te zetten, heb je ook geen probleem ... Let wel: linux is een effort van de gemeenschap, en dus betaald met belastinggeld. Als dat niet kan/mag renderen moet je maar een beetje belastinggeld ontduiken, of verbranden, het is me gelijk ... Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From amedee at amedee.be Tue Apr 3 11:50:05 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:50:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu courses? -> please add to wiki In-Reply-To: <4612209F.3080101@outerthought.org> References: <6d731d6e0704030228q3f428da1yc24603835347c62e@mail.gmail.com> <4612209F.3080101@outerthought.org> Message-ID: <1175597405.6586.3.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 11:38 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc Portier: > > Mark Van den Borre wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We often get questions about where to learn about Ubuntu in a formal > > course environment. I just created > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Education/NL/Courses . > > > > I am 100% sure there must be more courses offered. Please add! > > > > geen idee of je die ook wilt vermelden, maar bisvlaanderen heeft er ook > ene (schriftelijk welliswaar) > > http://www.bis.vlaanderen.be/cursussen/ca_info_specifiek.html#linux > > hm, 'breezy' en 'nieuw' staan daar samen :-( > > -marc= > Best eens melden aan Tille, dan. http://tille.xalasys.com/training/ -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070403/29dd1892/attachment-0001.pgp From ubuntu at janc.be Tue Apr 3 14:42:34 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:42:34 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> Message-ID: <1175607754.29672.43.camel@localhost> Please write English on this list; there are people with at least 3 different mother tongues subscribed. Also, next time please stay on-topic within a thread. Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 13:33 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > Ik heb zonet geklaagd bijk IVVO.be over containerparken: er wordt enorm > veel (computer)materiaal gedumpt dat NOG WERKT. Als enkel > mensen/vrijwilligers zouden toegelaten worden, zou je in geen tijd een > park van linux computers hebben, en om ze af te zetten, heb je ook geen > probleem ... That's what "kringloopcentra" and other PC recycle companies (like e.g. Oxfam, RecuPC, etc.) are for. > Let wel: linux is een effort van de gemeenschap, en dus betaald met > belastinggeld. (I hope) You know this is bullshit... > Als dat niet kan/mag renderen moet je maar een beetje > belastinggeld ontduiken, of verbranden, het is me gelijk ... This is totally off-topic, please refrain from posting political comments unless they are clearly related to Ubuntu Belgium. -- Jan Claeys From serge at vanginderachter.be Tue Apr 3 18:22:43 2007 From: serge at vanginderachter.be (Serge van Ginderachter) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 19:22:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu courses? -> please add to wiki In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704030228q3f428da1yc24603835347c62e@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704030228q3f428da1yc24603835347c62e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1175620963.6303.1.camel@localhost> On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 11:28 +0200, Mark Van den Borre wrote: > We often get questions about where to learn about Ubuntu in a formal > course environment. I just created > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Education/NL/Courses . I added Syntra West-Vlaanderen. They effectively use Ubuntu for their Linux courses. Maybe there are free-lance teachers who can do that, given enough attendees. Paul Cobbaut? Others? Serge -- Serge van Ginderachter http://www.vanginderachter.be/ If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. From mpo at outerthought.org Mon Apr 2 08:13:43 2007 From: mpo at outerthought.org (Marc Portier) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:13:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> Message-ID: <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> Fran?ois Cauwe wrote: > Hello all, > > During the meeting this evening Pierre aka Mongolito404 asked everybody > to call the almost finished 'support-point' software. It only need some > good testing before it can go live! > * I've seen there is some utf-8 issue with "Isma??l" > var infoTabs196_196 = [ new GInfoWindowTab('Supporter', 'Isma??l, expert
Waalshoekstraat 43, Desselgem
I speak Dutch.
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')] > var marker196_196 = new GMarker( new GLatLng(50.8881, 3.3841) ); > GEvent.addListener(marker196_196, "click", function() { marker196_196.openInfoWindowTabs(infoTabs196_196); }); > map.addOverlay(marker196_196); * to check if this isn't related to old test data in the system I tried to add a new user to the system: * during that phase I violated some valdation rules (password too short, non belgian zipcode (?)...) and I must say some RED indicating what and where the error is should help allong with some general feedback THAT THERE IS AN ERROR * ultimately I don't get any more validation errors reported, but still I fail to register this new guy named "I?t?rn?ti?n?liz?ti?n Test" (I don't get email, I don't get to see the new peep, I don't get a form-submit feedback that talks about "SUCCES") By the way, for some general advise on i18n, and the good test-string, see http://www.intertwingly.net/stories/2004/04/14/i18n.html * Furthermore: I can't get into my own 'old' record about me. I'm not sure I remember my password, but I'm very sure I don't remember the "confirmation code" Frankly I think this confirmation code idea is not a good idea: since anyone forgetting his password will almost never have remembered this confirmation code IMHO Sorry if I've missed earlier discussions on this approach, but I think it is fundamentally broken. regards, -marc= From mongolito404 at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 13:04:06 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:04:06 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] reminder: e-meeting tonight In-Reply-To: <1175204492.1452.12.camel@localhost> References: <6d731d6e0703290626j7f72ad39yd8dfc9a2ce83bd67@mail.gmail.com> <1175194536.5239.6.camel@kevin-desktop> <460C2771.5060500@skynet.be> <6d731d6e0703291358l780d39d6v730fbd26fff332b6@mail.gmail.com> <1175204492.1452.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704020504n6b023faco3fa2620f006582b5@mail.gmail.com> Obviously IRC is much easier for IRC people. I use Jabber for more than two years and I din't have any issue joining the meeting. I personnaly find it easier to explain people how to use Jabber (using Gaim) than IRC with channels, nickname registration, bots, etc. But I agree, there is a need for an easy documentation on how to join. I've also seen that there is a pure web firefox compatible Jabber client (http://jwchat.sourceforge.net/), When I found time (so after the 1st map deployment), I want to test if it can be insta On 3/29/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op donderdag 29-03-2007 om 22:58 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Mark Van > den Borre: > > Inviting people that are less familiar with tech to participate fully. > > That was the motivation behind moving to jabber. > > IRC is obviously much easier to get working... > -- > Jan Claeys -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From ubuntu at janc.be Mon Apr 2 18:35:06 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:35:06 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] reminder: e-meeting tonight In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704020504n6b023faco3fa2620f006582b5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0703290626j7f72ad39yd8dfc9a2ce83bd67@mail.gmail.com> <1175194536.5239.6.camel@kevin-desktop> <460C2771.5060500@skynet.be> <6d731d6e0703291358l780d39d6v730fbd26fff332b6@mail.gmail.com> <1175204492.1452.12.camel@localhost> <4e46f0fd0704020504n6b023faco3fa2620f006582b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1175535306.29672.8.camel@localhost> Op maandag 02-04-2007 om 14:04 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef mongolito404: > Obviously IRC is much easier for IRC people. I use Jabber for more > than two years and I din't have any issue joining the meeting. I didn't have issues with joining the Jabber room either, but there were obviously more people having trouble with it than when we used IRC... > I personnaly find it easier to explain people how to use Jabber (using > Gaim) than IRC with channels, Jabber rooms are the same concept as IRC channels. > nickname registration, Is _not_ needed for IRC, only for Jabber (which is exactly why I think IRC is easier...). > bots, etc. You don't need to know anything about bots to use IRC, and surely not for following a meeting on it. -- Jan Claeys From mvdborre at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 10:46:43 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:46:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Someone who wants to stay anonymous just donated 50? to ubuntu-be.org via my personal bank account. Ubuntu-be.org currently has 140+ this 50? = 190? . I will wire this sum to the ubuntu-be.org bank account as soon as it exists. The application for that is being processed by Keytrade Bank right now. Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From gaetan at frenoy.net Tue Apr 3 10:47:37 2007 From: gaetan at frenoy.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ga=EBtan?= Frenoy) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:47:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters & Feisty Fawn CDs at WEXS2007 ? In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704030214i3c6f512bncd4553ee5ffc3518@mail.gmail.com> References: <200704030003.05779.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> <4e46f0fd0704030214i3c6f512bncd4553ee5ffc3518@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070403114737.536aed75.gaetan@frenoy.net> Hello, Le Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:14:31 +0200, mongolito404 a ?crit: > This is probably a better idea to distribute Edgy (or even Dapper) > CDs (...) Sure, we are fine with this. But problem remains : how can we get such CDs at lower costs ? Thanks for any suggestion/help. -- Ga?tan From marcsje at fulladsl.be Tue Apr 3 12:38:56 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:38:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Frans parlement kiest voor Ubuntu Message-ID: <46123CD0.8010807@fulladsl.be> Franse parlement kiest voor ... Ubuntu linux ... http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/6717/469 Het zou nu wel leuk zijn, als we wisten welke versie/ welke softwarepakketten de 1500 "mesdames et messieurs" zullen gebruiken, want ik wil bvb eens een linux waar alle multimedia werkt, zonder de link te kopieren en pasten... De VRT werkt bvb niet, http://audio.omroep.nl/radio1 tot en met http://audio.omroep.nl/radio6 wel ... en daar staan 100en Gb programma's in .... Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From decirc at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 11:46:42 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:46:42 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters & Feisty Fawn CDs at WEXS2007 ? In-Reply-To: <20070403114737.536aed75.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <200704030003.05779.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> <4e46f0fd0704030214i3c6f512bncd4553ee5ffc3518@mail.gmail.com> <20070403114737.536aed75.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704030346n5841ec6bsaf5e3cf1661c979e@mail.gmail.com> I have a lot (not thousands) of official Dapper CD. And the burner solution is also a good idea.... But you'll need to find a dj-burner :( 2007/4/3, Ga?tan Frenoy : > > Hello, > > Le Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:14:31 +0200, mongolito404 a ?crit: > > This is probably a better idea to distribute Edgy (or even Dapper) > > CDs (...) > > Sure, we are fine with this. > > But problem remains : how can we get such CDs at lower costs ? > > Thanks for any suggestion/help. > > -- > Ga?tan > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070403/e5544f87/attachment-0001.htm From decirc at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 11:52:38 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:52:38 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> The problem with containerparken is the legal rules. To have the right to take materials, you should be able to recycle all the material taken. You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep interesting parts and only after bring back the rest to the containerparken.... Regards Cedric 2007/4/3, Marc : > Mark Van den Borre schreef: > >> > > Ik heb zonet geklaagd bijk IVVO.be over containerparken: er wordt enorm > veel (computer)materiaal gedumpt dat NOG WERKT. Als enkel > mensen/vrijwilligers zouden toegelaten worden, zou je in geen tijd een > park van linux computers hebben, en om ze af te zetten, heb je ook geen > probleem ... > > Let wel: linux is een effort van de gemeenschap, en dus betaald met > belastinggeld. Als dat niet kan/mag renderen moet je maar een beetje > belastinggeld ontduiken, of verbranden, het is me gelijk ... > > > Marc > > -- > -- > Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... > http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > From ubuntu at janc.be Tue Apr 3 14:09:08 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:09:08 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters & Feisty Fawn CDs at WEXS2007 ? In-Reply-To: <200704030003.05779.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> References: <200704030003.05779.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> Message-ID: <1175605750.29672.14.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 00:03 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Laurent Pirotte: > We are looking for information about where we can download Ubuntu > promotionial posters and where we can print them at the best price. (bottom) -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Tue Apr 3 14:13:45 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:13:45 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu courses? -> please add to wiki In-Reply-To: <1175597405.6586.3.camel@localhost> References: <6d731d6e0704030228q3f428da1yc24603835347c62e@mail.gmail.com> <4612209F.3080101@outerthought.org> <1175597405.6586.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1175606025.29672.19.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 12:50 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Amedee Van Gasse: > Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 11:38 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc > Portier: > > http://www.bis.vlaanderen.be/cursussen/ca_info_specifiek.html#linux > > > > hm, 'breezy' en 'nieuw' staan daar samen :-( > Best eens melden aan Tille, dan. > http://tille.xalasys.com/training/ Tille heeft dat in opdracht gemaakt en de opdracht voor een cursus is gekomen toen Breezy de nieuwste versie was. Ze zal vermoedelijk ook alleen maar in opdracht een nieuwe versie maken... -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Tue Apr 3 14:22:50 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:22:50 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1175606571.29672.27.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 11:46 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Mark Van den Borre: > Someone who wants to stay anonymous just donated 50? to ubuntu-be.org > via my personal bank account. > > Ubuntu-be.org currently has 140+ this 50? = 190? . I will wire this > sum to the ubuntu-be.org bank account as soon as it exists. The > application for that is being processed by Keytrade Bank right now. I still have the money from the Kortrijk fair too: gifts: 70 euro booth price: -38 euro 600 A6 flyers: -10 euro --------- result: 22 euro Note 1: I still have flyers left that can be used at a future fair Note 2: CD-Rs were paid by Lieven & me Note 3: Actual gifts were 69.78 euro, but I'll add the rest myself ;-) -- Jan Claeys From bartek at ubuntu-nl.org Tue Apr 3 18:37:26 2007 From: bartek at ubuntu-nl.org (Bart Broeckx) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 19:37:26 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Clickx magazine offers Linuxcours: Start with Linux Message-ID: <5ef5829b0704031037t7a996379x506cde06f4b3055@mail.gmail.com> This weeks Clickx magazine: http://clickxmagazine.zdnet.be/image.cfm?dir=CLX_cover&name=142_cover.jpg&caption=Clickx%20cover&signature=0221DC3F22E620BC54BE8EC57E4E9A61 Is somebody going to buy this magazine? Greetz, -- Bart Broeckx Willekensmolenstraat 83/7 3500 Hasselt 0476/66.20.80 bartek at ubuntu-nl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dirk Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 19:37 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bart Broeckx: > This weeks Clickx magazine: > > http://clickxmagazine.zdnet.be/image.cfm?dir=CLX_cover&name=142_cover.jpg&caption=Clickx%20cover&signature=0221DC3F22E620BC54BE8EC57E4E9A61 > > Is somebody going to buy this magazine? > > Greetz, > -- > Bart Broeckx > Willekensmolenstraat 83/7 > 3500 Hasselt > > 0476/66.20.80 > bartek at ubuntu-nl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070403/7bd8afbf/attachment.htm From marcsje at fulladsl.be Tue Apr 3 20:26:46 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 21:26:46 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4612AA76.2040603@fulladsl.be> Cedric Janssens schreef: > The problem with containerparken is the legal rules. > To have the right to take materials, you should be able to recycle all > the material taken. > You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep interesting parts and > only after bring back the rest to the containerparken.... > Wel, dat denk ik niet. de apen zeggen in hun folders "beklim de ladder van de recyclage zo hoog mogelijk". We leven op een planeet van apen, want ze willen niet eens dat je eraan begint. Trouwens, je gaat toch niet zeggen dat alles wat je daar afzet moet werken??? Dat is nu het foute aan je redenering, of zette de vlaamse reg dat in zijn wetten decreten en uitvoeringsbesluiten ten bewijze dat ze apen gelijk zijn??? Marc From ubuntu at janc.be Tue Apr 3 22:50:27 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:50:27 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <4612AA76.2040603@fulladsl.be> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> <4612AA76.2040603@fulladsl.be> Message-ID: <1175637028.29672.77.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 21:26 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > Wel, dat denk ik niet. de apen zeggen in hun folders "beklim de ladder > van de recyclage zo hoog mogelijk". We leven op een planeet van apen, > want ze willen niet eens dat je eraan begint. > > Trouwens, je gaat toch niet zeggen dat alles wat je daar afzet moet > werken??? Dat is nu het foute aan je redenering, of zette de vlaamse > reg dat in zijn wetten decreten en uitvoeringsbesluiten ten bewijze dat > ze apen gelijk zijn??? Mr. Coevoet, Zoals ik al eerder zei, gelieve on-topic te blijven. Daarnaast hebben we hier bij Ubuntu respect voor andere mensen, we verwachten dus dat jij ook respect toont voor anderen, en je gedraagt volgens de Code of Conduct[*]. Als je daar een probleem mee hebt, stel ik voor dat je je uitschrijft van deze lijst. O ja, en ik hoop dat ik niet gedwongen zal worden om dat laatste in jouw plaats te moeten doen... [*] -- Jan Claeys From mvdborre at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 22:53:28 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 23:53:28 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu translators ... info on ubuntu-be.org in default browser page? Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704031453g7bc8bebk767322dd76d05cbe@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, A message to those familiar with the translation process in ubuntu. Is there still a possibility to slip a reference to ubuntu-be.org into the nl_be and fr_be default browser pages of the Ubuntu 7.04 release? Jan Claeys, if I'm not mistaken, you are in the ubuntu-nl translation group. Can you tell us more about this? Anyone on the fr_be side? Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From ciaran at fsfe.org Wed Apr 4 06:22:40 2007 From: ciaran at fsfe.org (Ciaran O'Riordan) Date: 04 Apr 2007 06:22:40 +0100 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Transcript of RMS on GPLv3, interview, and new LGPL draft Message-ID: <9lps6ksogv.fsf@vorcha.compsoc.com> A transcript of RMS's GPLv3 talk from Sunday: http://fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3/brussels-rms-transcript Please pass this on to any list or forum where people might be interested. Topics include: 1. What is Free Software? 2. The GNU project 3. Free Software licences 4. Internationalisation 5. Tivoisation 6. Deflating the EUCD and DMCA 7. Novell, Microsoft, and patents 8. Termination 9. Formalising added permissions 10. BitTorrent 11. Patent retalisation and the Apached licence 12. The bracketed, dated clause Also, the 2nd draft of LGPLv3 is out: http://gplv3.fsf.org/lgpl3-dd2-guide -- Ciar?n O'Riordan __________________ \ http://fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3 http://ciaran.compsoc.com/ _________ \ GPLv3 and other work supported by http://fsfe.org/fellows/ciaran/weblog \ Fellowship: http://www.fsfe.org From rr at lilit.be Wed Apr 4 06:33:07 2007 From: rr at lilit.be (Snulkid) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 07:33:07 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu translators ... info on ubuntu-be.org in default browser page? In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704031453g7bc8bebk767322dd76d05cbe@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704031453g7bc8bebk767322dd76d05cbe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704040733.07248.rr@lilit.be> Le Mardi 3 Avril 2007 23:53, Mark Van den Borre a ?crit : > A message to those familiar with the translation process in ubuntu. I'm not familiar with it and have no time to spend on it but, as I told Mark, just drop me "ubuntu-be specific" English texts to be translated, or French texts to be checked for typos, to my email address and you will get an answer within a decent delay (max. 2 days). -- Snulkid ----- Li?geois, ne laissez pas d?figurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ From marcsje at fulladsl.be Wed Apr 4 07:18:20 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 08:18:20 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <1175637028.29672.77.camel@localhost> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> <4612AA76.2040603@fulladsl.be> <1175637028.29672.77.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4613432C.7080707@fulladsl.be> Jan Claeys schreef: > Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 21:26 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > >> Wel, dat denk ik niet. de apen zeggen in hun folders "beklim de ladder >> van de recyclage zo hoog mogelijk". We leven op een planeet van apen, >> want ze willen niet eens dat je eraan begint. >> >> Trouwens, je gaat toch niet zeggen dat alles wat je daar afzet moet >> werken??? Dat is nu het foute aan je redenering, of zette de vlaamse >> reg dat in zijn wetten decreten en uitvoeringsbesluiten ten bewijze dat >> ze apen gelijk zijn??? >> > > Mr. Coevoet, > > Zoals ik al eerder zei, gelieve on-topic te blijven. > > Daarnaast hebben we hier bij Ubuntu respect voor andere mensen, we > verwachten dus dat jij ook respect toont voor anderen, en je gedraagt > volgens de Code of Conduct[*]. Als je daar een probleem mee hebt, stel > ik voor dat je je uitschrijft van deze lijst. > Kijk, herlees eens wat Cedric schrijft: The problem with containerparken is the legal rules. To have the right to take materials, you should be able to recycle all the material taken. You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep interesting parts and only after bring back the rest to the containerparken.... Hij zegt dus dus "You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep interesting parts and only after bring back the rest to the containerparken...." Daar ben ik niet van overtuigd. Moet al die oude rommel op zijn geheel naar de rommelhemel, om te kunnen reincarneren of zoiets?? Als ik zeg de apen beklimmen de recyclageladder, heb ik het over de slogans die ze (hier) gebruikt hebben om de mensen te laten recycleren. En niet over Cedric, laten we wel wezen ... Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From ubuntu at sioben.net Wed Apr 4 09:30:41 2007 From: ubuntu at sioben.net (Benjamin Sion) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 10:30:41 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu-be cms Message-ID: <1175675441.26967.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> hi Webdev people, ubuntu-be.org cms is updated. Don't hesitate to ask if someone need special modules. http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/top/toplist.php?type=downloads http://dev.cmsmadesimple.org/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=311 cu, bEN From b at beligum.org Wed Apr 4 10:57:16 2007 From: b at beligum.org (Bram Biesbrouck) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 11:57:16 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] captorials, throughstart Message-ID: <200704041157.16295.b@beligum.org> Hi all, As some of you know, I've been involved in open-source videohelpdesking (Captorials and ScreenKast). Due to a lot of factors, mainly money-related, I've been forced to retract my two servers from the datacentre of my main sponsor (E-Bo Enterprises, which I'm still grateful for the delivered service). However, a webservice can't be in the air without servers, so this means the captorials project is (temporarily) dead. Since my interest in videohelpdesking is kicking in again, and I'm making some (very little) money with endless side-projects, I'd like to re-introduce videohelpdesking into the community, but this time, not alone, but with some fellow interested people. Here's the concept: find some people who think alike and have access to some resources (servers, datacentre-space, dev-skills, influence in some soft-companies, etc) to spare. The idea would be rethink the whole project, using all the software already written (by me), but this time, completely open-source; server, client, webservice. This is the *idealogical* idea. Perhaps I'll have to compromise here and there, but I feel the interest from inside the community for videohelpdesking is still there, so perhaps some people feel like joining this project. Please respond to this mail if you think you have some interesting ideas... bram From mvdborre at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:12:07 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:12:07 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] map.ubuntu-be.org/nl temporarily running from backup Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704040312h11e7ded2sbb9e8d77b37506fe@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Today as so many times before, I was manually updating nl ubuntu-be.org map data. I made a mistake and had to restore from a backup. Backups are made every night, but I don't have access to them right here right now. The latest backup I have access to right here right now is a bit more than a month old, with 15 new nl support points added in that time frame. So don't panick if you're nl and have recently subscribed. You will be back on the map, but it may take a few hours or maybe even days. Sincerely, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From decirc at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:35:59 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:35:59 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] captorials, throughstart In-Reply-To: <200704041157.16295.b@beligum.org> References: <200704041157.16295.b@beligum.org> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704040335l667fada6i9c8ddda321fa5a74@mail.gmail.com> What king of resources do you need on servers ? 2007/4/4, Bram Biesbrouck : > > Hi all, > > As some of you know, I've been involved in open-source videohelpdesking > (Captorials and ScreenKast). Due to a lot of factors, mainly > money-related, > I've been forced to retract my two servers from the datacentre of my main > sponsor (E-Bo Enterprises, which I'm still grateful for the delivered > service). > > However, a webservice can't be in the air without servers, so this means > the > captorials project is (temporarily) dead. Since my interest in > videohelpdesking is kicking in again, and I'm making some (very little) > money > with endless side-projects, I'd like to re-introduce videohelpdesking into > the community, but this time, not alone, but with some fellow interested > people. > > Here's the concept: find some people who think alike and have access to > some > resources (servers, datacentre-space, dev-skills, influence in some > soft-companies, etc) to spare. The idea would be rethink the whole > project, > using all the software already written (by me), but this time, completely > open-source; server, client, webservice. This is the *idealogical* idea. > Perhaps I'll have to compromise here and there, but I feel the interest > from > inside the community for videohelpdesking is still there, so perhaps some > people feel like joining this project. > > Please respond to this mail if you think you have some interesting > ideas... > > bram > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070404/bf768531/attachment.htm From b at beligum.org Wed Apr 4 11:48:12 2007 From: b at beligum.org (Bram Biesbrouck) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:48:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] captorials, throughstart In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704040335l667fada6i9c8ddda321fa5a74@mail.gmail.com> References: <200704041157.16295.b@beligum.org> <77d1ad090704040335l667fada6i9c8ddda321fa5a74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704041248.12253.b@beligum.org> Streaming video is pretty needy. At least a 5Mbit connection I guess. On the other hand, shell access, tomcat or jboss, php, mysql5, ... If it becomes popular, large storage is a plus, too. I have 2 servers of my own (1x1U, 1x2U), so actually, just some rackspace is sufficient... b. On Wednesday 04 April 2007 12:35, Cedric Janssens wrote: > What king of resources do you need on servers ? > > 2007/4/4, Bram Biesbrouck : > > Hi all, > > > > As some of you know, I've been involved in open-source videohelpdesking > > (Captorials and ScreenKast). Due to a lot of factors, mainly > > money-related, > > I've been forced to retract my two servers from the datacentre of my main > > sponsor (E-Bo Enterprises, which I'm still grateful for the delivered > > service). > > > > However, a webservice can't be in the air without servers, so this means > > the > > captorials project is (temporarily) dead. Since my interest in > > videohelpdesking is kicking in again, and I'm making some (very little) > > money > > with endless side-projects, I'd like to re-introduce videohelpdesking > > into the community, but this time, not alone, but with some fellow > > interested people. > > > > Here's the concept: find some people who think alike and have access to > > some > > resources (servers, datacentre-space, dev-skills, influence in some > > soft-companies, etc) to spare. The idea would be rethink the whole > > project, > > using all the software already written (by me), but this time, completely > > open-source; server, client, webservice. This is the *idealogical* idea. > > Perhaps I'll have to compromise here and there, but I feel the interest > > from > > inside the community for videohelpdesking is still there, so perhaps some > > people feel like joining this project. > > > > Please respond to this mail if you think you have some interesting > > ideas... > > > > bram > > > > -- > > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be From mvdborre at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 11:49:58 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 12:49:58 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] captorials, throughstart In-Reply-To: <200704041248.12253.b@beligum.org> References: <200704041157.16295.b@beligum.org> <77d1ad090704040335l667fada6i9c8ddda321fa5a74@mail.gmail.com> <200704041248.12253.b@beligum.org> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704040349i492955a7m49c56be3cdbb3a0@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/4, Bram Biesbrouck : > Streaming video is pretty needy. > At least a 5Mbit connection I guess. > On the other hand, shell access, tomcat or jboss, php, mysql5, ... > If it becomes popular, large storage is a plus, too. > I have 2 servers of my own (1x1U, 1x2U), so actually, just some rackspace is > sufficient... Are you in touch with the screencast team? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-screencasts Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From mongolito404 at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 15:58:43 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:58:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> Hi, A smal status report on the supporters map... Most reported bugs have been fixed or fixes are in progress, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bugs There is one bug for which I needs more info. It looks like someone triggered an internalization bug when registering. But on my side, I can register under the name "I?t?rn?ti?n?liz?ti?n" without any trouble. It clearly needs more testing but I don't really know where to look. I got the latest template uploaded on launchpad (it seems that I triggered a bug), there is 90 new strings to translate. Tonight, I should put the already ~160 translated strings into the bzr repository and deploy them on the beta site. As usual, bug reports are welcome. -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From gaetan at frenoy.net Wed Apr 4 17:25:49 2007 From: gaetan at frenoy.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ga=EBtan?= Frenoy) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:25:49 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> Hier Pierre, Le Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:58:43 +0200, mongolito404 a ?crit: > I got the latest template uploaded on launchpad (it seems that I > triggered a bug), there is 90 new strings to translate. Ok. I'll take cake of the French ones. > Tonight, I should put the already ~160 translated strings into the > bzr repository and deploy them on the beta site. That'd be great ! Thanks. -- Ga?tan From gaetan at frenoy.net Wed Apr 4 18:51:15 2007 From: gaetan at frenoy.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ga=EBtan?= Frenoy) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 19:51:15 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <20070404195115.de268702.gaetan@frenoy.net> Le Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:25:49 +0200, Ga?tan Frenoy a ?crit: > Ok. I'll take cake of the French ones. Done. Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly shop" ? Thanks. -- G From dirk.tas at telenet.be Wed Apr 4 19:44:31 2007 From: dirk.tas at telenet.be (Dirk Tas) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:44:31 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) In-Reply-To: <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <1175712271.6907.2.camel@thungsten> Starten met linux deel 1 (Dutch - starting with Linux) has been scanned from the Clickx Magazine in low resolution - 3.9Mb is somebody interested ? And where/how do Isend it. Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on the harddisk. Dirk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And where/how do Isend it. > > > Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on the > harddisk. > > Dirk > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070404/9e5d988d/attachment.htm From marcsje at fulladsl.be Wed Apr 4 20:33:07 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:33:07 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) In-Reply-To: <1175712271.6907.2.camel@thungsten> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> <1175712271.6907.2.camel@thungsten> Message-ID: <4613FD73.2090904@fulladsl.be> Dirk Tas schreef: > Starten met linux deel 1 (Dutch - starting with Linux) > has been scanned from the Clickx Magazine in low resolution - 3.9Mb > > is somebody interested ? And where/how do Isend it. > > > Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on > the harddisk. > > Dirk > Well, I know they have Clickx mag in one of the libraries/mediatheques I visit frequently ... If that may help anybody .. Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From mongolito404 at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 20:36:13 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:36:13 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704041236p5b91f224s5194f25a79f7e4a9@mail.gmail.com> On 4/4/07, Ga?tan Frenoy wrote: > > Tonight, I should put the already ~160 translated strings into the > > bzr repository and deploy them on the beta site. > > That'd be great ! Ok, I pulled the existing translations from Rosetta and updated the test site. After a quick look I there is some missing caps. Anyone wanting to help can test the site in different language. Also, I need people registering using name with special chars (?, ?, %, ?, ?, etc.) and having problems (cannot register, name displayed wrong after registration, mail not send, etc.). -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From ubuntu at janc.be Wed Apr 4 21:17:43 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:17:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] captorials, throughstart In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704040349i492955a7m49c56be3cdbb3a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <200704041157.16295.b@beligum.org> <77d1ad090704040335l667fada6i9c8ddda321fa5a74@mail.gmail.com> <200704041248.12253.b@beligum.org> <6d731d6e0704040349i492955a7m49c56be3cdbb3a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1175717864.25122.7.camel@localhost> Op woensdag 04-04-2007 om 12:49 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Mark Van den Borre: > 2007/4/4, Bram Biesbrouck : > > Streaming video is pretty needy. > > At least a 5Mbit connection I guess. > > On the other hand, shell access, tomcat or jboss, php, mysql5, ... > > If it becomes popular, large storage is a plus, too. > > I have 2 servers of my own (1x1U, 1x2U), so actually, just some rackspace is > > sufficient... > Are you in touch with the screencast team? > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-screencasts And/or maybe (try to) work together with or a similar site. -- Jan Claeys From guy.drx at skynet.be Thu Apr 5 06:30:00 2007 From: guy.drx at skynet.be (Guy Dierickx) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 22:30:00 -0700 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) In-Reply-To: <1175712271.6907.2.camel@thungsten> Message-ID: Hi Dirk, I am interested in the articles "Starten met linux". Guy Dierickx De Pinte guy.drx at skynet.be Thanks! _____ From: ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Dirk Tas Sent: woensdag 4 april 2007 11:45 To: Ubuntu Belgium Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) Starten met linux deel 1 (Dutch - starting with Linux) has been scanned from the Clickx Magazine in low resolution - 3.9Mb is somebody interested ? And where/how do Isend it. Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on the harddisk. Dirk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070404/566d7a5d/attachment.htm From thierry.loudeche at my.m1call.be Wed Apr 4 21:34:18 2007 From: thierry.loudeche at my.m1call.be (Thierry LOUDECHE) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:34:18 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <20070404195115.de268702.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> <20070404195115.de268702.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <1175718859.5491.3.camel@localhost> Le mercredi 04 avril 2007 ? 19:51 +0200, Ga?tan Frenoy a ?crit : > Le Wed, 4 Apr 2007 18:25:49 +0200, Ga?tan Frenoy a ?crit: > > Ok. I'll take cake of the French ones. > > Done. > > Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly shop" ? Peut-?tre "fournisseur sympathique de syst?me d'exploitation" ? :-) > > Thanks. > > -- > G > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070404/cef8e088/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll take cake of the French ones. > > > > Done. > > > > Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly shop" ? > > Peut-?tre "fournisseur sympathique de syst?me d'exploitation" ? :-) A bit long, isn't it ? Looks also that OS stands for "Open Source". [I also first thought it was "Operating System"] So, what about : "Magasin sensible aux logiciels libres" ? -- G From alexficelle.pub at gmail.com Wed Apr 4 21:58:20 2007 From: alexficelle.pub at gmail.com (Alexandre Ficelle) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:58:20 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <20070404224757.70eaf1cd.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> <20070404195115.de268702.gaetan@frenoy.net> <1175718859.5491.3.camel@localhost> <20070404224757.70eaf1cd.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <4614116C.30003@gmail.com> >>> Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly shop" ? >> Le mercredi 04 avril 2007 ? 19:51 +0200, Ga?tan Frenoy a ?crit : >> Peut-?tre "fournisseur sympathique de syst?me d'exploitation" ? :-) > Le Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:34:18 +0200, Thierry LOUDECHE a ?crit: > A bit long, isn't it ? Looks also that OS stands for "Open Source". > [I also first thought it was "Operating System"] Ga?tan Frenoy a ?crit : > So, what about : "Magasin sensible aux logiciels libres" ? +1 for this translation. From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Wed Apr 4 22:08:24 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:08:24 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1175720904.5216.1.camel@kevin-desktop> Sorry but that again can be circumvented but then you have to use a contact to take the remains to yet another containerpark. It's actually like this, you can collect materials from it for yourselve, but you cannot test and bring back if it doesn't work, but when you ask an uncle to do it for you, you can easily circumvent it. Op di, 03-04-2007 te 12:52 +0200, schreef Cedric Janssens: > The problem with containerparken is the legal rules. > To have the right to take materials, you should be able to recycle all > the material taken. > You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep interesting parts and > only after bring back the rest to the containerparken.... > > Regards > Cedric > > 2007/4/3, Marc : > > Mark Van den Borre schreef: > > >> > > > > Ik heb zonet geklaagd bijk IVVO.be over containerparken: er wordt enorm > > veel (computer)materiaal gedumpt dat NOG WERKT. Als enkel > > mensen/vrijwilligers zouden toegelaten worden, zou je in geen tijd een > > park van linux computers hebben, en om ze af te zetten, heb je ook geen > > probleem ... > > > > Let wel: linux is een effort van de gemeenschap, en dus betaald met > > belastinggeld. Als dat niet kan/mag renderen moet je maar een beetje > > belastinggeld ontduiken, of verbranden, het is me gelijk ... > > > > > > Marc > > > > -- > > -- > > Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... > > http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > > -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Wed Apr 4 22:11:00 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:11:00 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <4613432C.7080707@fulladsl.be> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> <4612AA76.2040603@fulladsl.be> <1175637028.29672.77.camel@localhost> <4613432C.7080707@fulladsl.be> Message-ID: <1175721060.5216.4.camel@kevin-desktop> Op wo, 04-04-2007 te 08:18 +0200, schreef Marc: > Jan Claeys schreef: > > Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 21:26 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > > > >> Wel, dat denk ik niet. de apen zeggen in hun folders "beklim de ladder > >> van de recyclage zo hoog mogelijk". We leven op een planeet van apen, > >> want ze willen niet eens dat je eraan begint. > >> > >> Trouwens, je gaat toch niet zeggen dat alles wat je daar afzet moet > >> werken??? Dat is nu het foute aan je redenering, of zette de vlaamse > >> reg dat in zijn wetten decreten en uitvoeringsbesluiten ten bewijze dat > >> ze apen gelijk zijn??? > >> > > > > Mr. Coevoet, > > > > Zoals ik al eerder zei, gelieve on-topic te blijven. > > > > Daarnaast hebben we hier bij Ubuntu respect voor andere mensen, we > > verwachten dus dat jij ook respect toont voor anderen, en je gedraagt > > volgens de Code of Conduct[*]. Als je daar een probleem mee hebt, stel > > ik voor dat je je uitschrijft van deze lijst. > > > > Kijk, herlees eens wat Cedric schrijft: > > The problem with containerparken is the legal rules. > To have the right to take materials, you should be able to recycle all > the material taken. > You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep interesting parts and > only after bring back the rest to the containerparken.... > > > > Hij zegt dus dus "You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep > interesting parts and > only after bring back the rest to the containerparken...." Daar ben ik > niet van overtuigd. Moet al die oude rommel op zijn geheel naar de > rommelhemel, om te kunnen reincarneren of zoiets?? > > Als ik zeg de apen beklimmen de recyclageladder, heb ik het over de > slogans die ze (hier) gebruikt hebben om de mensen te laten recycleren. > En niet over Cedric, laten we wel wezen ... > > Marc > > -- > -- > Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... > http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. > > Er is ook nog zoiets al SPIT, die nemen je oude pc's en met derden of gewoon zelf geven ze die een nieuw leven. Ik heb er al veeloude maar nog goed spul heengebracht, gisteren zelfs nog een perfect werkende, maar te luidruchtige printer. Het is maar hoe je het aanpakt. -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Wed Apr 4 22:12:11 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 23:12:11 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Clickx magazine offers Linuxcours: Start with Linux In-Reply-To: <5ef5829b0704031037t7a996379x506cde06f4b3055@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ef5829b0704031037t7a996379x506cde06f4b3055@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1175721131.5216.6.camel@kevin-desktop> Op di, 03-04-2007 te 19:37 +0200, schreef Bart Broeckx: > This weeks Clickx magazine: > > http://clickxmagazine.zdnet.be/image.cfm?dir=CLX_cover&name=142_cover.jpg&caption=Clickx%20cover&signature=0221DC3F22E620BC54BE8EC57E4E9A61 > > Is somebody going to buy this magazine? > > Greetz, > -- > Bart Broeckx > Willekensmolenstraat 83/7 > 3500 Hasselt > > 0476/66.20.80 > bartek at ubuntu-nl.org Bart I have a subscription to it at home. -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From rr at lilit.be Thu Apr 5 06:59:50 2007 From: rr at lilit.be (Snulkid) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:59:50 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <4614116C.30003@gmail.com> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <20070404224757.70eaf1cd.gaetan@frenoy.net> <4614116C.30003@gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704050758.36140.rr@lilit.be> Le Mercredi 4 Avril 2007 22:58, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > >>> Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly > >>> shop" ? What's the complete sentence/context (and its current translation) including this mention ? -- Snulkid ----- Li?geois, ne laissez pas d?figurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ From frederik.wynants at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:31:14 2007 From: frederik.wynants at gmail.com (Frederik Wynants) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:31:14 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) In-Reply-To: References: <1175712271.6907.2.camel@thungsten> Message-ID: I am interested too ! frederik.wynants at gmail.com Thank's in advance, Frederik 2007/4/5, Guy Dierickx : > > Hi Dirk, > I am interested in the articles "Starten met linux". > Guy Dierickx > De Pinte > guy.drx at skynet.be > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------ > *From:* ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto: > ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *Dirk Tas > *Sent:* woensdag 4 april 2007 11:45 > *To:* Ubuntu Belgium > *Subject:* [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) > > > Starten met linux deel 1 (Dutch - starting with Linux) > has been scanned from the Clickx Magazine in low resolution - 3.9Mb > > is somebody interested ? And where/how do Isend it. > > > Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on the > harddisk. > > Dirk > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -- Frederik Wynants -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070405/4e862e01/attachment.htm From bram at este-media.com Thu Apr 5 09:35:17 2007 From: bram at este-media.com (Bram Van Oost) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:35:17 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070405083518.7F7992200A8@assei1bl6.telenet-ops.be> Ditto! bramvanoost at gmail.com Thanks! Can Ismael please mail me too? I seem to have misplaces his mails/addies. Bram Van Oost _____ From: ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Frederik Wynants Sent: donderdag 5 april 2007 10:31 To: Ubuntu Belgium Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) I am interested too ! frederik.wynants at gmail.com Thank's in advance, Frederik 2007/4/5, Guy Dierickx : Hi Dirk, I am interested in the articles "Starten met linux". Guy Dierickx De Pinte guy.drx at skynet.be Thanks! _____ From: ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto: ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Dirk Tas Sent: woensdag 4 april 2007 11:45 To: Ubuntu Belgium Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) Starten met linux deel 1 (Dutch - starting with Linux) has been scanned from the Clickx Magazine in low resolution - 3.9Mb is somebody interested ? And where/how do Isend it. Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on the harddisk. Dirk -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Frederik Wynants -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070405/bcacf4bf/attachment-0001.htm From lemmens.steven at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 09:39:01 2007 From: lemmens.steven at gmail.com (Steven Lemmens) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:39:01 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) In-Reply-To: <20070405083518.7F7992200A8@assei1bl6.telenet-ops.be> References: <20070405083518.7F7992200A8@assei1bl6.telenet-ops.be> Message-ID: <9dd2de090704050139o1d0ca15bud663293e3dcd5391@mail.gmail.com> I am also interested in this article. You can reach me on: lemmens.steven at gmail.com Attachments can be up to 10 MB, so no worries there ... Greetings (and thanks in advance) Steven On 4/5/07, Bram Van Oost wrote: > > Ditto! > > bramvanoost at gmail.com > > > > Thanks! > > > > Can Ismael please mail me too? > I seem to have misplaces his mails/addies. > > > > > > Bram Van Oost > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto: > ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *Frederik Wynants > *Sent:* donderdag 5 april 2007 10:31 > *To:* Ubuntu Belgium > *Subject:* Re: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution > 75dpi) > > > > I am interested too ! > > > > > > frederik.wynants at gmail.com > > > > Thank's in advance, > > Frederik > > > > 2007/4/5, Guy Dierickx : > > Hi Dirk, > > I am interested in the articles "Starten met linux". > > Guy Dierickx > > De Pinte > > guy.drx at skynet.be > > > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] > *On Behalf Of *Dirk Tas > *Sent:* woensdag 4 april 2007 11:45 > *To:* Ubuntu Belgium > *Subject:* [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) > > > > Starten met linux deel 1 (Dutch - starting with Linux) > has been scanned from the Clickx Magazine in low resolution - 3.9Mb > > is somebody interested ? And where/how do Isend it. > > > Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on the > harddisk. > > Dirk > > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > > > > -- > Frederik Wynants > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070405/3bf43aeb/attachment.htm From jacques.bonamis at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 11:10:20 2007 From: jacques.bonamis at gmail.com (jacques bonamis) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:10:20 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] click x cursus linux (ubuntu low resolution 75dpi) In-Reply-To: <1175712271.6907.2.camel@thungsten> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <4610AD27.2040302@outerthought.org> <4e46f0fd0704020626k74983fcbj7a4aff0ccdaad095@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704040758o731df94fy6714739264837463@mail.gmail.com> <20070404182549.bd18a1d6.gaetan@frenoy.net> <1175712271.6907.2.camel@thungsten> Message-ID: <577fccb80704050310u4aa6092pb2e57d83425b76d5@mail.gmail.com> Hello Dirk, I am interested, regards, Jacques 2007/4/4, Dirk Tas : > > Starten met linux deel 1 (Dutch - starting with Linux) > has been scanned from the Clickx Magazine in low resolution - 3.9Mb > > is somebody interested ? And where/how do Isend it. > > > Article shows Ubuntu and how to startup the cd, and install ubuntu on the > harddisk. > > Dirk > > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -- Jacques Bonamis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070405/a730fd52/attachment.htm From gaetan at frenoy.net Thu Apr 5 12:00:10 2007 From: gaetan at frenoy.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ga=EBtan?= Frenoy) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:00:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <200704050758.36140.rr@lilit.be> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <20070404224757.70eaf1cd.gaetan@frenoy.net> <4614116C.30003@gmail.com> <200704050758.36140.rr@lilit.be> Message-ID: <20070405130010.16138d6e.gaetan@frenoy.net> Le Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:59:50 +0200, Snulkid a ?crit: > Le Mercredi 4 Avril 2007 22:58, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > > >>> Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly > > >>> shop" ? > > What's the complete sentence/context (and its current translation) > including this mention ? Don't know exactly. Just saw the .po file but I guess it is a shop where you can buy computers with free softwares. Best of those shops even provide computers pre-installed with Ubuntu ! That said, I don't know if this part of the application is really in use. I mean : I don't see this on the test website (http://ubuntumapbeta.lusis.be/beta/index.php). Can someone clarify this ? Thanks, -- Ga?tan From mvdborre at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 12:18:55 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:18:55 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <20070405130010.16138d6e.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <20070404224757.70eaf1cd.gaetan@frenoy.net> <4614116C.30003@gmail.com> <200704050758.36140.rr@lilit.be> <20070405130010.16138d6e.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704050418u3aedffddj203c858ab5f93d3b@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/5, Ga?tan Frenoy : > Le Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:59:50 +0200, Snulkid a ?crit: > > Le Mercredi 4 Avril 2007 22:58, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > > > >>> Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly > > > >>> shop" ? > > > > What's the complete sentence/context (and its current translation) > > including this mention ? > > Don't know exactly. Just saw the .po file but I guess it is a shop > where you can buy computers with free softwares. Best of those > shops even provide computers pre-installed with Ubuntu ! > > That said, I don't know if this part of the application is really > in use. I mean : I don't see this on the test website > (http://ubuntumapbeta.lusis.be/beta/index.php). > > Can someone clarify this ? It won't be part of the upcoming release. It's a relic from code that might one day be reused. Don't know why it's still in the .po, really. Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From mongolito404 at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 16:03:07 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:03:07 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704050418u3aedffddj203c858ab5f93d3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <20070404224757.70eaf1cd.gaetan@frenoy.net> <4614116C.30003@gmail.com> <200704050758.36140.rr@lilit.be> <20070405130010.16138d6e.gaetan@frenoy.net> <6d731d6e0704050418u3aedffddj203c858ab5f93d3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704050803l1d71f161rf2046c5ec20991ce@mail.gmail.com> It's still in the .po because it still in a .php file somewhere. Actually, you can even know where it is in Rosetta (most are in application/views/site_shops.php). Either I remove the files, either we don't care and see if they get re-used later. P. On 4/5/07, Mark Van den Borre wrote: > 2007/4/5, Ga?tan Frenoy : > > Le Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:59:50 +0200, Snulkid a ?crit: > > > Le Mercredi 4 Avril 2007 22:58, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > > > > >>> Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly > > > > >>> shop" ? > > > > > > What's the complete sentence/context (and its current translation) > > > including this mention ? > > > > Don't know exactly. Just saw the .po file but I guess it is a shop > > where you can buy computers with free softwares. Best of those > > shops even provide computers pre-installed with Ubuntu ! > > > > That said, I don't know if this part of the application is really > > in use. I mean : I don't see this on the test website > > (http://ubuntumapbeta.lusis.be/beta/index.php). > > > > Can someone clarify this ? > It won't be part of the upcoming release. It's a relic from code that > might one day be reused. Don't know why it's still in the .po, really. > > Mark > -- > Mark Van den Borre > Noormannenstraat 113 > 3000 Leuven, Belgi? > +32 486 961726 > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From gaetan at frenoy.net Thu Apr 5 17:50:09 2007 From: gaetan at frenoy.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ga=EBtan?= Frenoy) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:50:09 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing! In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704050803l1d71f161rf2046c5ec20991ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <1175201708.7062.9.camel@Titan> <20070404224757.70eaf1cd.gaetan@frenoy.net> <4614116C.30003@gmail.com> <200704050758.36140.rr@lilit.be> <20070405130010.16138d6e.gaetan@frenoy.net> <6d731d6e0704050418u3aedffddj203c858ab5f93d3b@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704050803l1d71f161rf2046c5ec20991ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070405185009.b2048a52.gaetan@frenoy.net> Hi, Le Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:03:07 +0200, mongolito404 a ?crit: > Either I remove the files, either we don't care and see if > they get re-used later. Ok. Just leave the files where they are (imho), translation is good enough for now and we will see later if we can reuse that code. Thanks, have a good evening. -- Ga?tan From jurgen.priem2 at telenet.be Fri Apr 6 08:03:29 2007 From: jurgen.priem2 at telenet.be (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?=) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:03:29 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] anonymous donation received In-Reply-To: <1175721060.5216.4.camel@kevin-desktop> References: <6d731d6e0704030246x113ed4as25e1806798bcccb6@mail.gmail.com> <46123B9F.4050100@fulladsl.be> <77d1ad090704030352h702853e7u5c3a17c2bf96e1bb@mail.gmail.com> <4612AA76.2040603@fulladsl.be> <1175637028.29672.77.camel@localhost> <4613432C.7080707@fulladsl.be> <1175721060.5216.4.camel@kevin-desktop> Message-ID: <4615F0C1.8080405@telenet.be> Kevin Elaerts schreef: > Op wo, 04-04-2007 te 08:18 +0200, schreef Marc: > >> Jan Claeys schreef: >> >>> Op dinsdag 03-04-2007 om 21:26 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: >>> >>> >>>> Wel, dat denk ik niet. de apen zeggen in hun folders "beklim de ladder >>>> van de recyclage zo hoog mogelijk". We leven op een planeet van apen, >>>> want ze willen niet eens dat je eraan begint. >>>> >>>> Trouwens, je gaat toch niet zeggen dat alles wat je daar afzet moet >>>> werken??? Dat is nu het foute aan je redenering, of zette de vlaamse >>>> reg dat in zijn wetten decreten en uitvoeringsbesluiten ten bewijze dat >>>> ze apen gelijk zijn??? >>>> >>>> >>> Mr. Coevoet, >>> >>> Zoals ik al eerder zei, gelieve on-topic te blijven. >>> >>> Daarnaast hebben we hier bij Ubuntu respect voor andere mensen, we >>> verwachten dus dat jij ook respect toont voor anderen, en je gedraagt >>> volgens de Code of Conduct[*]. Als je daar een probleem mee hebt, stel >>> ik voor dat je je uitschrijft van deze lijst. >>> >>> >> Kijk, herlees eens wat Cedric schrijft: >> >> The problem with containerparken is the legal rules. >> To have the right to take materials, you should be able to recycle all >> the material taken. >> You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep interesting parts and >> only after bring back the rest to the containerparken.... >> >> >> >> Hij zegt dus dus "You cannot take a lot, make some tests, keep >> interesting parts and >> only after bring back the rest to the containerparken...." Daar ben ik >> niet van overtuigd. Moet al die oude rommel op zijn geheel naar de >> rommelhemel, om te kunnen reincarneren of zoiets?? >> >> Als ik zeg de apen beklimmen de recyclageladder, heb ik het over de >> slogans die ze (hier) gebruikt hebben om de mensen te laten recycleren. >> En niet over Cedric, laten we wel wezen ... >> >> Marc >> >> -- >> -- >> Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... >> http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. >> >> >> > > Er is ook nog zoiets al SPIT, die nemen je oude pc's en met derden of > gewoon zelf geven ze die een nieuw leven. Ik heb er al veeloude maar nog > goed spul heengebracht, gisteren zelfs nog een perfect werkende, maar te > luidruchtige printer. Het is maar hoe je het aanpakt. > Hello list, I myself work at as a sysadmin in a recycling intercommunal in the region of Kortrijk (Courtrai). AEEA the name of the waste type is being collected in many places, it is not a centralised collection as with PMD, Paper, or home waste. The containerparken are governed by the cities and bij the recycling firm. If an official agreement with ubuntu belgium is to be reached a lot of people will have to agree on the matter (different cities, direction, the intercommunal counsel). Non the less the slogan for recycling is the stairs of lansink, an the number one action to reduce waste is re-use. So I will have a word non the less if someone is interessed. From bruno at indymedia.be Fri Apr 6 19:30:43 2007 From: bruno at indymedia.be (Bruno De Bondt) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:30:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] 22/04: Ubuntu install party Message-ID: <461691D3.4090707@indymedia.be> Hello, On Sunday (afternoon) the 22nd of April, Indymedia.be is hosting an Ubuntu install party. Please find the announcement (in Dutch) in attachment or on http://www.indymedia.be/en/node/8425 . (we're working on translations) If there are people here who would like to do a presentation on Ubuntu, or give a workshop on anything related to Ubuntu (we'll probably have a Foss video workshop already): everything is still welcome. And of course, you're all invited to come and play with the new Feisty release, to come and help people install Ubuntu, or just to chat and have coffee, ... thanks, bye, -- bruno -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ubuntu-install-party-22042007.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 141109 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070406/ae9d6d8c/attachment-0001.pdf From mvdborre at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 02:39:57 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 03:39:57 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu-be.org bank account details Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704061839n3da3cb5cs4c14282c9917ec5@mail.gmail.com> Hi! Too much money on your hands? Ubuntu-be.org has the solution! Just send it to: ubuntu-be.org 651-1398678-41 IBAN BE88 6511 3986 7841 BIC KEYTBEB1 Sincerely, Mark Van den Borre ubuntu-be.org volunteer -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From mvdborre at gmail.com Sat Apr 7 14:31:47 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:31:47 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] support points map back up to date Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704070631r5b16bda0x845bff107fc048ce@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, After the error two days ago, the nl_be support points map is back up to date. 163 nl_be + 73 fr_be = 236 support points already! Sincerely, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be Sun Apr 8 14:44:25 2007 From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux) Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:44:25 -0000 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Quick presentation In-Reply-To: <20070321131409.612ad21b.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <20070321131409.612ad21b.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: 2007/3/21, Ga?tan Frenoy : > Let me quickly introduce myself. My name is Ga?tan Frenoy, I am 33 > years old and I am living in the North of Brussels (near the Roi welcome Gaetan -- Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be From bernan at aboutsms.net Tue Apr 10 20:36:53 2007 From: bernan at aboutsms.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bernard_Andr=E9?=) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:36:53 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to start to install download 610 desktop i386 ? Message-ID: <461BE755.1030702@aboutsms.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi All, Really a stupid question, I do agree, but I need to start somewhere... I have downloaded the Ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 from the Ubuntu site. Now, I would like to install Ubuntu as a boot option, on my laptop already running Win XP Pro. Could someone tell me what to do ? Regards, Bernard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070410/80a0453d/attachment.htm From mongolito404 at gmail.com Tue Apr 10 21:13:54 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:13:54 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> Hoi, The plan is to put the new support points map in production at http://map.ubuntu-be.org for April the 12th. I asked for test last week and got bugs reported. Most bugs are fixed, but they were the easiest. Currently there is two bugs for which we don't have a fix in the bzr repository and for which we don't see an easy solution that could implemented for the 12th. There is also a bug reported that I cannot reproduce and for which more info is needed. You can see these three bug at * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/103503 * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/103485 * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/101903 These three bugs are important but I don't see them a stoppers, because the new application work at least as good as the old one event with these. So I'm thinking about going in production even with these three bugs unfixed. But I prefer to ask you what is your opinion. If any of you think that going in production with these bugs is an error, please show up. Off course, any help is welcome and needed. Especially on these three bugs but not only. -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From ismael.demiddel at telenet.be Wed Apr 11 08:05:41 2007 From: ismael.demiddel at telenet.be (Ismael Demiddel) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:05:41 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] report meeting 29-03 Message-ID: <1176275142.5707.9.camel@localhost> Hello everyone You will find the report attached from the meeting a few weeks ago. Because of illness and other issues I couldn't drop it earlier. Hope it will be earlier next time ... ;-) I would also like to say that in next meeting: could everyone who will attend it try to use their real names before the session begins. Not afterwards with /nick (=is anoying because jabber changes it constantly) There can be other issues as well for this problem, but just log in with your real name and no nick name. Thank you and maybe we'll see you on next meeting... 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An iso file is kind of like a ZIP file, with a lot of files inside and it's those files that need to be burned onto the cd, no the iso itself. You can do that easily with functions like "burn an image". It should be there somewhere. Then, when you burned the cd, try rebooting your computer while the CD is still in place. You should see a startup screen of Ubuntu this time. Set your language and keymap (F2 and F3) and then select "Start or Install Ubuntu". This will start the Live environment of Ubuntu, so you can test it all out. When you're ready to install Ubuntu, just double click on Install. You'll find that on your desktop. Remember that for Ubuntu you'll need a ext3-partition and a swap-partition. Both can be made from within the Install. The swap-partition has to be a bit bigger than the size of the memory in your computer. That's all there is to it. If you have more questions, don't hesitate to ask. - Steven - On 4/10/07, Bernard Andr? wrote: > > ------------------------------ > Hi All, > > Really a stupid question, I do agree, but I need to start somewhere... > I have downloaded the Ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386 from the Ubuntu site. > Now, I would like to install Ubuntu as a boot option, on my laptop already > running Win XP Pro. > > Could someone tell me what to do ? > > Regards, > Bernard > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070411/e9e010e1/attachment.htm From gaetan at frenoy.net Wed Apr 11 11:49:43 2007 From: gaetan at frenoy.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ga=EBtan?= Frenoy) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:49:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to start to install download 610 desktop i386 ? In-Reply-To: <9dd2de090704110338j28f85c9cn87d4fece6357760c@mail.gmail.com> References: <461BE755.1030702@aboutsms.net> <9dd2de090704110338j28f85c9cn87d4fece6357760c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070411124943.06ff047a.gaetan@frenoy.net> Hello, First, a quick reminder : for technical questions, you'll probably get better answers in your native language using ubuntu-fr or ubuntu-nl. That said, there are still some techies reading this list so keep reading... Le Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:38:56 +0200, Steven Lemmens a ?crit: > Remember that for Ubuntu you'll need a ext3-partition and a swap-partition. If you don't want to mess up with partitionning your disk (which is a very though step for non-technical users), you can take a look to the following project : http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup This will add an entry to your Windows boot menu to run Ubuntu (or Kubuntu or Xubuntu). Your GNU/Linux system will be installed within a file in your Windows file system. You don't have to do tricky things like resizing partition etc. I never tried (don't have XP anyway) so I don't know if it really works but it looks really interesting to me ! Someone else can give a feedback about this ? Have a great day. -- Ga?tan From mvdborre at gmail.com Wed Apr 11 23:00:32 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:00:32 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] e-meeting thursday 2007/04/12, 21.00, ubuntu-be.org@conference.jabber.belnet.be Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704111500j9ad2044h4972a1a8c328240b@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Just as a reminder: WHAT: ubuntu-be.org e-meeting WHEN: tonight, 21.00, ubuntu-be.org at conference.jabber.belnet.be HOW TO JOIN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JabberConferenceInstructions AGENDA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/OnlineMeeting_2007-04-12 Sincerely, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From mehercle at linux-info.be Wed Apr 11 23:05:34 2007 From: mehercle at linux-info.be (Gunirus) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:05:34 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] e-meeting thursday 2007/04/12, 21.00, ubuntu-be.org@conference.jabber.belnet.be In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704111500j9ad2044h4972a1a8c328240b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704111500j9ad2044h4972a1a8c328240b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704120005.41168.mehercle@linux-info.be> On donderdag 12 april 2007, Mark Van den Borre wrote: > WHAT: ubuntu-be.org e-meeting > WHEN: tonight, 21.00, ubuntu-be.org at conference.jabber.belnet.be > HOW TO JOIN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JabberConferenceInstructions > AGENDA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/OnlineMeeting_2007-04-12 > Tonight :-) Great timing I'll be there Pieter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Voor > > OEM's zijn er wel lagere prijzen dan in hun shop. > > > > Maar ik heb onlangs met Thomas van GStreamer & Fluendo gechat en snap nu > > waarom dat zo relatief duur is... :-( > Hm, vanop hun website: > > This package contains all of Fluendo's GStreamer plugins which are: > > Windows Media Audio Decoder > Windows Media Video Decoder > Windows Media ASF Demuxer > Windows Media MMS Networking > MPEG2 Video Decoder > MPEG4 Video Decoder > MPEG2 Program Stream and Transport Stream demuxer > MPEG4 ISO Demuxer > MP3 Audio Decoder > AC3 Audio Decoder > > En dat samen voor 28 euro, valt nog goed mee dus. Daarmee kan je WMA, WMV (+ WM streaming) en de meest voorkomende losse MPEG2/MPEG4 video- en muziekbestanden spelen (maar geen DVDs, en vziw geen met DRM beveiligde bestanden). Ter vergelijking: de prijs van de OEM-versie van WinXP die bij een Dell of HP zit is ongeveer 30 ? 40 euro, inclusief de licenties voor de codecs in het Fluendo pack hierboven en nog een hoop andere dergelijke licenties. (Fluendo's OEM-licenties zijn ook wel goedkoper dan die 28 euro trouwens.) > Hoe het zit met updates weet ik wel niet :-/ Je krijgt updates voor 1 jaar. Stel dat je ook nog eens zou moeten betalen voor QuickTime, RealMedia, Flash Video, DVD-gedoe, HD-DVD-gedoe, BlueRay-gedoe, de codecs voor de nog niet ondersteunde MPEG4 profielen, DRM-support voor elk van die formaten, etc. etc... Ik vrees dat je op den duur niet ver uit de buurt van 200 ? 300 euro zou uitkomen, zeker als je dat elke paar jaar moet betalen omdat MS/Real/Apple weer eens een nieuw formaat uitvindt. (Trouwens, voor complete JPEG-ondersteuning moet je ook een licentie betalen, dacht ik, en zo zullen er wel meer formaten zijn die problemen kunnen geven, nu of in de toekomst.) M.a.w., die codecs zijn momenteel nog best betaalbaar, maar als het aantal codecs & andere niet-gratis closed source software voor het lezen van bestandsformaten uitbreidt zie ik het minder zitten om die allemaal te gaan moeten betalen... (Tenzij de totaalprijs gelijk blijft natuurlijk, maar dat betwijfel ik.) PS: iemand al die codecs gekocht en uitgetest? Hoe goed werken ze? -- Jan Claeys From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Thu Apr 12 11:01:49 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:01:49 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to start to install download 610 desktop i386 ? In-Reply-To: <20070411124943.06ff047a.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <461BE755.1030702@aboutsms.net> <9dd2de090704110338j28f85c9cn87d4fece6357760c@mail.gmail.com> <20070411124943.06ff047a.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <1176372109.5344.0.camel@kevin-desktop> Op wo, 11-04-2007 te 12:49 +0200, schreef Ga?tan Frenoy: > Hello, > > First, a quick reminder : for technical questions, you'll probably get > better answers in your native language using ubuntu-fr or ubuntu-nl. > > That said, there are still some techies reading this list so keep > reading... > > Le Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:38:56 +0200, Steven Lemmens a ?crit: > > Remember that for Ubuntu you'll need a ext3-partition and a swap-partition. > > If you don't want to mess up with partitionning your disk (which is > a very though step for non-technical users), you can take a look to > the following project : > > http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup > > This will add an entry to your Windows boot menu to run Ubuntu (or > Kubuntu or Xubuntu). Your GNU/Linux system will be installed within > a file in your Windows file system. You don't have to do tricky > things like resizing partition etc. > > I never tried (don't have XP anyway) so I don't know if it really works > but it looks really interesting to me ! > > Someone else can give a feedback about this ? > > Have a great day. > > -- > Ga?tan > It still isn't very stable and it introduces some off Windows unwanted side-effects to an Ubuntu install. -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 11:56:12 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:56:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Fesity CD Message-ID: <77d1ad090704120356u7fd9f62dw44eca7ec16e6e32@mail.gmail.com> Dear members Just a note to warn the shipit orders are open for feisty. 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Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 12 12:12:50 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:12:50 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Fesity CD In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704120406v7dec0bcbkdef967a5d09cf5f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704120356u7fd9f62dw44eca7ec16e6e32@mail.gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704120406v7dec0bcbkdef967a5d09cf5f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704120412j20cabeceu75e3428b6b17106b@mail.gmail.com> I propose to let the "special request" be made by Annelies as it is linked to the event box. I've sent this mail to let everybody already begin to order small quantities of cd for personnal use and personnal distribution. Regards Cedric 2007/4/12, Mark Van den Borre : > > 2007/4/12, Cedric Janssens : > > Dear members > > > > Just a note to warn the shipit orders are open for feisty. > > > > So if you are distribution point on the map, don't hesitate, and go to > > > > https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ > > https://shipit.kubuntu.org > > and > > https://shipit.edubuntu.org/ > Please coordinate with the rest of us before making a "special > request" in the name of ubuntu-be.org! > > Mark > -- > Mark Van den Borre > Noormannenstraat 113 > 3000 Leuven, Belgi? > +32 486 961726 > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070412/c675ecac/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 13 09:48:35 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:48:35 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives] Message-ID: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> See the message below. We might want to list multiple people depending on the language(s) they speak. Who are we going to list? -------Doorgestuurd bericht------- Van: Jono Bacon Antwoordadres: jono at ubuntu.com, Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts Aan: Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts Onderwerp: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives Datum: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:12:40 +0100 Hi all, I often get emailed with requests for Ubuntu / Kubuntu / Edubuntu etc speakers for different conferences around the world, and I often recommend people I know from different LoCo teams. I would like every team to discuss who are the best public speakers and most available for these kinds of talks, and add their details to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamSpeakers - this way we can have a big list of speakers in the Ubuntu community. Before you add your speakers, bear the following points in mind: - Don't add more than three speakers from each team, preferably only one or two. - Work together as a team to decide who is the most available and best speaker. Those of you with previous speaking experience are recommended to be added to the list. Thanks! Jono -- Jono Bacon Ubuntu Community Manager jono(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com / www.jonobacon.org -- Jan Claeys From mvdborre at gmail.com Fri Apr 13 11:50:02 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:50:02 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives] In-Reply-To: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> References: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704130350l2821cfdaj8c395372f788fe2e@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/13, Jan Claeys : > See the message below. > > We might want to list multiple people depending on the language(s) they > speak. > > Who are we going to list? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Responsibility: fr_be: Cedric Janssens nl_be: me Sincerely, Mark Van den Borre ubuntu-be.org -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be Fri Apr 13 13:24:10 2007 From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:24:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] People for Wetenschap - ExpoSciences on May 3, 4 and 5, 2007 Message-ID: Dear all, As mentioned in previous mails, the Bxlug will organized and man a large booth presenting free software and contents, during the Wentenschap -ExpoSciences on May 4, 5 and 6, 2007 at Heyzel, Brussels. This is a very good opportunity to present FLOSS to young and their relatives and teachers. As the event is bilingual, we are looking for several Nederlandstalige friends to help and give some talks. Please see http://wiki.bxlug.be/Wexs2007 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/WEXS_2007 Thanks, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 13 14:14:19 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:14:19 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives] In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704130350l2821cfdaj8c395372f788fe2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> <6d731d6e0704130350l2821cfdaj8c395372f788fe2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176470061.28153.7.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 13-04-2007 om 12:50 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Mark Van den Borre: > 2007/4/13, Jan Claeys : > > See the message below. > > > > We might want to list multiple people depending on the language(s) they > > speak. > > > > Who are we going to list? > See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Responsibility: > > fr_be: Cedric Janssens > nl_be: me This is about speaking at conferences, seminars & the like, so we probably need to list one or both of you for speaking in English too? -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 13 14:25:37 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:25:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: Re: Feisty CDs] Message-ID: <1176470737.28153.11.camel@localhost> Quoting from a mail on the LoCoTeam list: "Marilize has updated the wiki regarding requests for Feisty CD's." Where to deliver them? -- Jan Claeys From mongolito404 at gmail.com Fri Apr 13 14:31:37 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:31:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives] In-Reply-To: <1176470061.28153.7.camel@localhost> References: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> <6d731d6e0704130350l2821cfdaj8c395372f788fe2e@mail.gmail.com> <1176470061.28153.7.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704130631h26f83796r10ae12c10beccf85@mail.gmail.com> Hoi, And since it's about speaking at conference, it's and other "job" than being Ubuntu-be spokesman (or press contact). Wee need people with some presentation skills and who feels comfortable speaking to a large audience. On 4/13/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > This is about speaking at conferences, seminars & the like, so we > probably need to list one or both of you for speaking in English too? -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From Laurent.Pirotte at skynet.be Fri Apr 13 15:25:04 2007 From: Laurent.Pirotte at skynet.be (Laurent Pirotte) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:25:04 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives] In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704130631h26f83796r10ae12c10beccf85@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> <1176470061.28153.7.camel@localhost> <4e46f0fd0704130631h26f83796r10ae12c10beccf85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704131625.05137.Laurent.Pirotte@skynet.be> Hi, I just had a phone call with the organizers of the WEXS fair and I have some more info about the public & the opportunity to organise a conference. At this time, there is about 170 projects presented by french speaking students (about 2200, mainly from primary school), 30 projects presented by foreign delegation and 20 projects presented by dutch speaking students. The event is multilingual but mainly french speaking. I think dutch speaking people must be present on the ubuntu/bxlug stand but we need more french speaking people. There is a conference/workshop room in the fair and, at his time, this room is still free friday (but busy the other days). Regards For more info, see : http://wiki.bxlug.be/Wexs2007 (french) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/WEXS%202007 (english) On Friday 13 April 2007 15:31, mongolito404 wrote: > Hoi, > > And since it's about speaking at conference, it's and other "job" than > being Ubuntu-be spokesman (or press contact). Wee need people with > some presentation skills and who feels comfortable speaking to a large > audience. > > On 4/13/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > > This is about speaking at conferences, seminars & the like, so we > > probably need to list one or both of you for speaking in English too? > > -- > mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From decirc at gmail.com Fri Apr 13 18:00:45 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:00:45 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives] In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704130350l2821cfdaj8c395372f788fe2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> <6d731d6e0704130350l2821cfdaj8c395372f788fe2e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704131000w5abaf85ay703adf9e0dda85ab@mail.gmail.com> > > > > We might want to list multiple people depending on the language(s) they > > speak. > > > > Who are we going to list? > See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Responsibility: > > fr_be: Cedric Janssens > nl_be: me > Indeed :-) (And I love to talk in public area) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, -- Gr?gory Dizier Consultant IT Trigidia.com http://www.trigidia.com +32 (0497) 53.52.60 Le 13/4/2007, "Cedric Janssens" a ?crit: >Hi there, > >Just a note to know if some of them are using Linked In and are interested >to expand their network. > >Best regards >Cedric From amedee at amedee.be Sat Apr 14 09:57:05 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:57:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Linked In In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704131247u7e970913gca050d48513c9a0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704131247u7e970913gca050d48513c9a0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176541025.23811.1.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 13-04-2007 om 21:47 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric Janssens: > Hi there, > > Just a note to know if some of them are using Linked In and are > interested to expand their network. > > Best regards > Cedric Yes, I use LinkedIn. -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070414/90de709a/attachment.pgp From mongolito404+ubuntu-be at gmail.com Sat Apr 14 10:53:40 2007 From: mongolito404+ubuntu-be at gmail.com (Pierre Buyle) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:53:40 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Linked In In-Reply-To: <1176541025.23811.1.camel@localhost> References: <77d1ad090704131247u7e970913gca050d48513c9a0d@mail.gmail.com> <1176541025.23811.1.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704140253i3a65a5f6gc7fd3a46209d15a9@mail.gmail.com> I'm also on linkedin. In my profile, under "Groups and Associations" I put "Ubuntu-be". Lionel does the same. I saw Cedric use "Ubuntu-be.org". I remeber a discussion here and I think we agreed to use "Ubuntu-be.org" as our "brand" name. So I will switch to Ubuntu-be.org in my linkedin profile. I suggest other members do the same. P. On 4/14/07, Amedee Van Gasse wrote: > Op vrijdag 13-04-2007 om 21:47 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric > Janssens: > > Hi there, > > > > Just a note to know if some of them are using Linked In and are > > interested to expand their network. > > > > Best regards > > Cedric > Yes, I use LinkedIn. > -- > Amedee Van Gasse > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > > -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From amedee at amedee.be Sat Apr 14 11:24:42 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:24:42 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Linked In In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704140253i3a65a5f6gc7fd3a46209d15a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704131247u7e970913gca050d48513c9a0d@mail.gmail.com> <1176541025.23811.1.camel@localhost> <4e46f0fd0704140253i3a65a5f6gc7fd3a46209d15a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176546282.24489.19.camel@localhost> Op zaterdag 14-04-2007 om 11:53 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Pierre Buyle: > I'm also on linkedin. In my profile, under "Groups and Associations" I > put "Ubuntu-be". Lionel does the same. I saw Cedric use > "Ubuntu-be.org". I remeber a discussion here and I think we agreed to > use "Ubuntu-be.org" as our "brand" name. So I will switch to > Ubuntu-be.org in my linkedin profile. I suggest other members do the > same. Done. I already had it there, but all lowercase. I changed it. -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Feel free to send me an invitation. regards Wouter -- http://wouter.horre.be/ From amedee at amedee.be Sat Apr 14 16:01:56 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 17:01:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Linked In In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704131247u7e970913gca050d48513c9a0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704131247u7e970913gca050d48513c9a0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176562916.9968.4.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 13-04-2007 om 21:47 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric Janssens: > Hi there, > > Just a note to know if some of them are using Linked In and are > interested to expand their network. > > Best regards > Cedric I think it helps a lot if people share their connections. You have to allow connections browse in account&settings to do that. I made a lot of new connections when browsing the connections of my connections. :-) Cedric, give my regards to Bjorn. I assume you are cow-orkers? -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070414/cbe2cc17/attachment.pgp From marcsje at fulladsl.be Mon Apr 16 04:53:02 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 05:53:02 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Most of the free software you can use for HAM/Radio/antenna/ ... Message-ID: <4622F31E.7010009@fulladsl.be> Always works on linux, sometimes on windows/mac ... http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/linux/radio.txt 20000+ other packages listed on: http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/linux/software.txt The French parliament is going to use Ubuntu.com linux as of this summer. about this packages and this text: Because I was unhappy I did not have a simple means to search the index of all packages linux (in fact debian) gives me, I made a long text file which consists of the package name, followed by its detailed information (if it exists). That makes a file of about 15Mb, and 280.000 lines. Now, people that DO NOT have linux can do a word search on this file, and will soon see what applications interest them. Of course, I know this file contains some overhead, but if you choose your search key well, the result will be better ... I wrote this text for the last link: Here is the list: http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/linux/software.txt Comments on typography are always welcome ... (I made this in a hurry, so I'll change it anyway) (In fact, it should be easy to make a html, but I won't spend too much time now.) Is there anybody that knows about this kind of text with all pkg included?? Of course, I know, if you have linux, you can start Synaptic, and do a search there, but non linux users can't do that, and this is like a paper dictionary: you look at a term, and you can let your eyes wonder around for other terms, so that you learn things you didn't expected.... (and you could search internet, or eg http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/ , but ... too much clicking involved ...) PS: if you are lucky, this software exists for you PC/ windows or for your mac ... But a linux install is less trouble, then you have ONE application which shows all 20000+ software packages, one click, and they are installed. On a platform like Windows, you need to surf to 20000 websites, download implicitly, and install yourself. On Apple, you can use fink, and sometimes reach 5000 packages, but you need to be a half unix expert, so yo can better start of linux anyway ... -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From marcsje at fulladsl.be Mon Apr 16 05:32:26 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:32:26 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Lots of info on free software packages ( over 20.000 packages cited ) Message-ID: <4622FC5A.5070800@fulladsl.be> I first made a complete list, but sent Ubuntu-be a mail about radio software. For you, all TV-viewers ;-), this list of 20000+ software packages must be more useful ... http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/linux/software.txt The French parliament is going to use Ubuntu.com linux as of this summer. about this packages and this text: Because I was unhappy I did not have a simple means to search the index of all packages linux (in fact debian) gives me, I made a long text file which consists of the package name, followed by its detailed information (if it exists). That makes a file of about 15Mb, and 280.000 lines. Now, people that DO NOT have linux can do a word search on this file, and will soon see what applications interest them. Of course, I know this file contains some overhead, but if you choose your search key well, the result will be better ... I wrote this text for the last link: Here is the list: http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/linux/software.txt Comments on typography are always welcome ... (I made this in a hurry, so I'll change it anyway) (In fact, it should be easy to make a html, but I won't spend too much time now.) Is there anybody that knows about this kind of text with all pkg included?? Of course, I know, if you have linux, you can start Synaptic, and do a search there, but non linux users can't do that, and this is like a paper dictionary: you look at a term, and you can let your eyes wonder around for other terms, so that you learn things you didn't expected.... (and you could search internet, or eg http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/ , but ... too much clicking involved ...) PS: if you are lucky, this software exists for you PC/ windows or for your mac ... But a linux install is less trouble, then you have ONE application which shows all 20000+ software packages, one click, and they are installed. On a platform like Windows, you need to surf to 20000 websites, download implicitly, and install yourself. On Apple, you can use fink, and sometimes reach 5000 packages, but you need to be a half unix expert, so yo can better start of linux anyway ... PS2: The radio software is on: http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/linux/radio.txt -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From marcsje at fulladsl.be Mon Apr 16 05:45:03 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 06:45:03 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... Message-ID: <4622FF4F.9020208@fulladsl.be> http://Gratiscomputers.tk Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of "reglementair") toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken van comps mee. Alvast 1 MMX die werkt. Ook een ??700Mhz/PIII die een grafische kaart ontbreekt, plus een bak met voeding (wellicht nieuw, ongebruikt). Ik zou jullie aanzetten het te proberen, het was op een containerpark in Vlaams Brabant, ik kom er soms, mijn schoonzus woont er ... Hier aan de kust heb ik nog niemand tot het redelijk inzicht kunnen brengen dat je met oude comps wat kunt doen, laat ons zeggen: ze hebben hier last van een zonneslag ... Die comps kan ik makkelijk kwijt, aan mijn eigen familie bvb ! ( ;-) Ik wil via tel wel zeggen waar het was .. Blijkbaar kunen niet inwoners ook naar het park, je koopt een strippenkaart ... 1,25 euro per keer dat je wagen wat zwaarder wordt bij het buitenrijden ... 057 20 00 16 Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From ubuntu at janc.be Mon Apr 16 11:24:23 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:24:23 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... In-Reply-To: <4622FF4F.9020208@fulladsl.be> References: <4622FF4F.9020208@fulladsl.be> Message-ID: <1176719063.28153.125.camel@localhost> Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of "reglementair") > toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken van comps > mee. Dat is diefstal, en ga je dus maar ergens anders bespreken. This is theft, so please go talk about this elsewhere. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Mon Apr 16 12:22:42 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:22:42 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Lots of info on free software packages ( over 20.000 packages cited ) In-Reply-To: <4622FC5A.5070800@fulladsl.be> References: <4622FC5A.5070800@fulladsl.be> Message-ID: <1176722562.28153.132.camel@localhost> Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:32 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > I first made a complete list, but sent Ubuntu-be a mail about radio > software. For you, all TV-viewers ;-), this list of 20000+ software > packages must be more useful ... [...] > Is there anybody that knows about this kind of text with all pkg included?? > Of course, I know, if you have linux, you can start Synaptic, and do a > search there, but non linux users can't do that, and this is like a paper > dictionary: you look at a term, and you can let your eyes wonder around for > other terms, so that you learn things you didn't expected.... (and you > could search internet, or eg http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/ , but ... too > much clicking involved ...) People can look at files like these to get the same info: NB: there is no need to send 3 times the same mail about this... -- Jan Claeys From karel at brits.name Mon Apr 16 12:38:03 2007 From: karel at brits.name (Karel Brits) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:38:03 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... Message-ID: <20070416133803.n6rjreh668ssc8s4@webmail.brits.name> In hoeverre is het diefstal, als je die pc's zelf kan recycleren? Je helpt de natuur toch een handje? Als het containerpark daarmee akkoord is, wat is er dan mis mee? De eigenaar is er vanaf geraakt en jij helpt om het product verder te recycleren en nieuw leven in te blazen. Dat is toch geen diefstal? How can this be seen as theft, when you're able to recycle those pc's? The owner got rid of it, he didn't need them anymore. You're able to give the pc's a second life. And when they agree that you take those pc's with you, how can it be theft then? Karel Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of "reglementair") > toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken van comps > mee. Dat is diefstal, en ga je dus maar ergens anders bespreken. This is theft, so please go talk about this elsewhere. -- Jan Claeys From decirc at gmail.com Mon Apr 16 13:46:48 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:46:48 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... In-Reply-To: <20070416133803.n6rjreh668ssc8s4@webmail.brits.name> References: <20070416133803.n6rjreh668ssc8s4@webmail.brits.name> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704160546u2c98b267x7d1419dc312c9a47@mail.gmail.com> I didn't really understood the first message, but the message seems really clear here in ICDI area : It's totally forbidden to take out anything out the container park. I don't know for other parks. Regards Cedric 2007/4/16, Karel Brits : > > In hoeverre is het diefstal, als je die pc's zelf kan recycleren? Je > helpt de natuur toch een handje? Als het containerpark daarmee > akkoord is, wat is er dan mis mee? De eigenaar is er vanaf geraakt en > jij helpt om het product verder te recycleren en nieuw leven in te > blazen. Dat is toch geen diefstal? > > How can this be seen as theft, when you're able to recycle those pc's? > The owner got rid of it, he didn't need them anymore. You're able > to give the pc's a second life. And when they agree that you take > those pc's with you, how can it be theft then? > > > > Karel > > > Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > > Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of "reglementair") > > toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken van comps > > mee. > > Dat is diefstal, en ga je dus maar ergens anders bespreken. > This is theft, so please go talk about this elsewhere. > > > -- > Jan Claeys > > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1176719063.28153.125.camel@localhost> References: <4622FF4F.9020208@fulladsl.be> <1176719063.28153.125.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <46239FBD.9030302@fulladsl.be> Jan Claeys schreef: > Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > >> Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of "reglementair") >> toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken van comps >> mee. >> > > Dat is diefstal, en ga je dus maar ergens anders bespreken. > This is theft, so please go talk about this elsewhere. > > > Ik moet daarmee lachen, want ze laten het toe Punt It ain't theft if they allow it Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From marcsje at fulladsl.be Mon Apr 16 17:16:44 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:16:44 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... In-Reply-To: <1176719063.28153.125.camel@localhost> References: <4622FF4F.9020208@fulladsl.be> <1176719063.28153.125.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4623A16C.9080200@fulladsl.be> Jan Claeys schreef: > Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > >> Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of "reglementair") >> toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken van comps >> mee. >> > > Dat is diefstal, en ga je dus maar ergens anders bespreken. > This is theft, so please go talk about this elsewhere. > > Als je de wetten wil veranderen, moet je weten wat je wilt. Ik ben dat hier in de westhoek al gaan vertellen aan enkele mensen (dat ze beide werken, 200MMX en pIII/700) en ik heb een politieker gevraagd waarom dat hier niet kan, of dat misschien is omdat ze een zonneslag hebben (weet je wel, ze zijn keihard jaloers als je iets "gratis" krijgt, jawel, "gratis", want ik ben er nu al de ganse dag mee bezig, is dan dan nog gratis ??... Als je weet wat je wil (pcs om linux te demonstreren/ Marc aankalgen, wie weet), dan hang je gewoon aan de grote klok dat Windows XP nog werkte, vol virussen zat, ik de prive administratie van een zelfstandige als nexsys.be kon inkijken, en het nog leuk vond ook. Marc PS: ik ben systeemmanager van een groot bedrijf en een unif geweest, en weet wel wat discretie is PUNT. Diegene die nooit zo'n job gedaan hebben (of een gebrek aan maturiteit), roepen en tieren maar wat... -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From marcsje at fulladsl.be Mon Apr 16 17:30:55 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:30:55 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Lots of info on free software packages ( over 20.000 packages cited ) In-Reply-To: <1176722562.28153.132.camel@localhost> References: <4622FC5A.5070800@fulladsl.be> <1176722562.28153.132.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4623A4BF.30506@fulladsl.be> Jan Claeys schreef: > > > People can look at files like these to get the same info: > > > > NB: there is no need to send 3 times the same mail about this... > > "Unfortunately", you are member of three lists, Jan ... Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From amedee at amedee.be Mon Apr 16 18:37:37 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:37:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704160546u2c98b267x7d1419dc312c9a47@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070416133803.n6rjreh668ssc8s4@webmail.brits.name> <77d1ad090704160546u2c98b267x7d1419dc312c9a47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176745057.19666.9.camel@localhost> Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 14:46 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric Janssens: > I didn't really understood the first message, but the message seems > really clear here in ICDI area : It's totally forbidden to take out > anything out the container park. I don't know for other parks. > > Regards > Cedric I didn't really *see* the first message. The only reason I saw parts of it, was because you guys replied and quoted. Really people, the cow said it: _____________ / Do not feed \ \ the trolls! / ------------- \ ^__^ \ (**)\_______ (__)\ )\/\ U ||----w | || || A suggestion: add this to your /etc/postfix/header_checks /^From:.*(marcsje at fulladsl\.be)/ REJECT > -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070416/724ba4d0/attachment.pgp From ubuntu at janc.be Mon Apr 16 19:32:16 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:32:16 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... In-Reply-To: <20070416133803.n6rjreh668ssc8s4@webmail.brits.name> References: <20070416133803.n6rjreh668ssc8s4@webmail.brits.name> Message-ID: <1176748338.28153.151.camel@localhost> Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 13:38 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Karel Brits: > > Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > > > Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of "reglementair") > > > toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken van comps > > > mee. > > > > [Jan Claeys] > > Dat is diefstal, en ga je dus maar ergens anders bespreken. > > This is theft, so please go talk about this elsewhere. > How can this be seen as theft, when you're able to recycle those > pc's? > The owner got rid of it, he didn't need them anymore. You're able > to give the pc's a second life. And when they agree that you take > those pc's with you, how can it be theft then? Maybe "theft" isn't exactly the correct expression, but there is a law to disallow others from sifting through your garbage to find personal information or company secrets or whatever. If you want your PC recycled (as in: re-used), you can bring it to a "kringloopwinkel" or any other company or organisation that recycles PCs. Or you can give it to someone you know of course. -- Jan Claeys From francois at cauwe.org Mon Apr 16 21:18:35 2007 From: francois at cauwe.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Cauwe) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:18:35 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Stay on topic please! (Was: Re: Lots of info on free software packages) In-Reply-To: <4623A4BF.30506@fulladsl.be> References: <4622FC5A.5070800@fulladsl.be> <1176722562.28153.132.camel@localhost> <4623A4BF.30506@fulladsl.be> Message-ID: <1176754715.16620.19.camel@Titan> Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 18:30 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Marc: > Jan Claeys schreef: > "Unfortunately", you are member of three lists, Jan ... > > Marc It would be nice if you would try to send only on topic message to this list. According to the subscription page [1], this list discuss: This Ubuntu Belgium list is mainly used for coordination & organisation of local Ubuntu-activities in Belgium. So if your message is not about organising a local ubuntu event, please post the message to a more appropriate list. If it is about support in Ubuntu, maybe you can try ubuntu-nl, if it's not related to ubuntu, I'm sure you can find appropriate lists. Thank you for understanding and respecting this! Thanks, Fran?ois Cauwe [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Ing. Fran?ois Cauwe Msc Cell. +32 (0) 486 226021 From alexficelle.pub at gmail.com Mon Apr 16 21:21:45 2007 From: alexficelle.pub at gmail.com (Alexandre Ficelle) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:21:45 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 Message-ID: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> Hello Ubuntu friends! The newest release of Ubuntu will be out in a couple of days. As you probably know, the mascot of this new version is the Feisty Fawn. We at Ubuntu-be.org wanted to do something a bit out of the ordinary to celebrate this event. To stay in the spirit of this release, we decided to go meet some real deers, and hopefully fawns as well! Join us on Sunday April 22, 2007 at 14:30 in the nature park in La Reid. To get there, hop aboard the minivan traveling across Belgium. All practical details can be found on the wiki. Please add your name there too if you plan on coming! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/meet_the_fawn Spread the word around! Hoping to see you all there... Sincerely, Alexandre Laurent From mpo at outerthought.org Tue Apr 17 13:06:45 2007 From: mpo at outerthought.org (Marc Portier) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:06:45 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4624B855.1010400@outerthought.org> mongolito404 wrote: > You can see these three bug at > * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/103503 > * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/103485 > * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/101903 > > These three bugs are important but I don't see them a stoppers, fair enough, I've just ran through the i18n test again on (http://ubuntumapbeta.lusis.be/beta) and could now verify correct entry and display of the data, so I assume it is safe to close this one. (remeber that I could never perform a new data test since for some reason validation never worked for me) However, I _did_ report an obvious utf8 issue with old imported data (which is still present: "Isma??l") So whatever data-import procedure you have been using before, I think it should be checked and ammended before taking it into production! Furthermore, I also noticed the updated lost-password procedure and the red-highlighting for validation errors, nice work + nice to see my feedback was useful enough to consider :-) One last thingy though: (see launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/107238) the dutch version of the first show-option-button is showing a typo "eeb gratus Ubuntu-installatieset" should be "een gratis Ubuntu-installatieset" HTH, regards, -marc= From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Tue Apr 17 14:53:39 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:53:39 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> This is a nice idea ... let's eat ... heu meet some fawns ;) PhiL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070417/668ddf5c/attachment.htm From wouter-ubuntu at horre.be Tue Apr 17 15:09:37 2007 From: wouter-ubuntu at horre.be (Wouter =?iso-8859-1?q?Horr=E9?=) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:09:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <4624B855.1010400@outerthought.org> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <4624B855.1010400@outerthought.org> Message-ID: <200704171609.37218.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:06, Marc Portier wrote: > mongolito404 wrote: > the dutch version of the first show-option-button is showing a typo > "eeb gratus Ubuntu-installatieset" > > should be > "een gratis Ubuntu-installatieset" I think I fixed this one (and some other typos) in rosetta last week. It is probably not yet deployed on the beta site. regards Wouter -- http://wouter.horre.be/ From mongolito404 at gmail.com Tue Apr 17 15:53:12 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:53:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <200704171609.37218.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <4624B855.1010400@outerthought.org> <200704171609.37218.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704170753u2b64d02av4d984613b210932d@mail.gmail.com> Hoi Yes, we din't upgrade the beta-site. The new map application is now deployed on production on map.ubuntu-be.org. Update and bug fixes are applied there on no anymore at the beta site. The beta site, and any map running is scheduled for removal. A mail about the new map deployment should be sent to all supporters but it has yet to be written. In the meantime, if you visit map.ubuntu-be.org and if it's has changed for you (DNS propagation) you can continue to test features and report bugs. As usual, we will try to fix them. P. On 4/17/07, Wouter Horr? wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:06, Marc Portier wrote: > > mongolito404 wrote: > > the dutch version of the first show-option-button is showing a typo > > "eeb gratus Ubuntu-installatieset" > > > > should be > > "een gratis Ubuntu-installatieset" > > I think I fixed this one (and some other typos) in rosetta last week. It is > probably not yet deployed on the beta site. > > regards > Wouter > > -- > http://wouter.horre.be/ > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From wouter-ubuntu at horre.be Tue Apr 17 16:20:43 2007 From: wouter-ubuntu at horre.be (Wouter =?iso-8859-1?q?Horr=E9?=) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:20:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704170753u2b64d02av4d984613b210932d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <200704171609.37218.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> <4e46f0fd0704170753u2b64d02av4d984613b210932d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704171720.43802.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> Hi, This is nice! Two remarks/questions: 1. The dutch translation seems incomplete. I'll try to find some time this weekend to complete it. 2. I was a support point, but my entry seems to be lost in the migration process. I know there was a typo in my address (300 Leuven, instead of 3000 Leuven), so maybe that is the reason. Shall I register again, or is my entry to be recovered from somewhere? regards Wouter On Tuesday 17 April 2007 16:53, mongolito404 wrote: > Hoi > > Yes, we din't upgrade the beta-site. The new map application is now > deployed on production on map.ubuntu-be.org. Update and bug fixes are > applied there on no anymore at the beta site. The beta site, and any > map running is scheduled for removal. A mail about the new map > deployment should be sent to all supporters but it has yet to be > written. > > In the meantime, if you visit map.ubuntu-be.org and if it's has > changed for you (DNS propagation) you can continue to test features > and report bugs. As usual, we will try to fix them. > > P. > > On 4/17/07, Wouter Horr? wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:06, Marc Portier wrote: > > > mongolito404 wrote: > > > the dutch version of the first show-option-button is showing a typo > > > "eeb gratus Ubuntu-installatieset" > > > > > > should be > > > "een gratis Ubuntu-installatieset" > > > > I think I fixed this one (and some other typos) in rosetta last week. It > > is probably not yet deployed on the beta site. > > > > regards > > Wouter > > > > -- > > http://wouter.horre.be/ > > > > -- > > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -- > mongolito404, king of the mongolian people -- http://wouter.horre.be/ From mongolito404 at gmail.com Tue Apr 17 17:48:25 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:48:25 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <200704171720.43802.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <200704171609.37218.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> <4e46f0fd0704170753u2b64d02av4d984613b210932d@mail.gmail.com> <200704171720.43802.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704170948t526c2d71ld3685a26bdbf3625@mail.gmail.com> Hi, yes, if your zipcode was invalid (300 in stead of 3000), your profile has not been imported. If it's ok for you, the easiest for us is that you register again. On 4/17/07, Wouter Horr? wrote: > 2. I was a support point, but my entry seems to be lost in the migration > process. I know there was a typo in my address (300 Leuven, instead of 3000 > Leuven), so maybe that is the reason. Shall I register again, or is my entry > to be recovered from somewhere? -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From ubuntu at janc.be Tue Apr 17 20:13:15 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:13:15 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested Message-ID: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> Hello all, I have requested the box of Feisty CDs that, as an official locoteam, we can have delivered early after the release (before they start sending out the shipit orders). They will be delivered at Mark's place, and then distributed from there. -- Jan Claeys From rr at lilit.be Tue Apr 17 20:29:25 2007 From: rr at lilit.be (Snulkid) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:29:25 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704172122.47568.rr@lilit.be> Le Mardi 17 Avril 2007 15:53, Philippe Piquer a ?crit : > This is a nice idea ... > let's eat ... heu meet some fawns ;) Well, if you want to eat, there is a locally famous restaurant in La Reid : http://www.spa-info.be/menobu/ I fear I cannot make it (due to some "deadlined" activities) but, Alexandre and Benoit, if you are greeting people in La Reid, maybe you could visit some (very close) magic places : * la Charmille http://www.opt.be/tourisme/description.php?RG=o&CLANGUE=fr&ID=563&T=V&ELTOID=30290 * les Fonds de Quarreux et le Ninglinspo http://www.aywaille.be/fr/aywaille/villages/fdQuarreux.htm * les roches Crahay http://www.belclimb.net/cragsearch.php?mode=crag&id=166 (http://www.bekinna.be/boucle14.php) * etc. and you are also not far from Theux (and Franchimont Castle), Spa or the Ambl?ve Valley (Remouchamps, Aywaille). P.S. In October, we will be visiting the Antwerpen Zoo ;-) : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html -- Snulkid ----- Li?geois, ne laissez pas d?figurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ From wouter-ubuntu at horre.be Wed Apr 18 10:14:57 2007 From: wouter-ubuntu at horre.be (Wouter =?iso-8859-1?q?Horr=E9?=) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:14:57 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704170948t526c2d71ld3685a26bdbf3625@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <200704171720.43802.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> <4e46f0fd0704170948t526c2d71ld3685a26bdbf3625@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704181114.57246.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> Hi, On Tuesday 17 April 2007 18:48, mongolito404 wrote: > yes, if your zipcode was invalid (300 in stead of 3000), your profile > has not been imported. If it's ok for you, the easiest for us is that > you register again. I have registered again. When I confirmed my registration, it said that my confirmation code was not a valid confirmation code, but my registration seems to be completed... regards Wouter -- http://wouter.horre.be/ From nicolas.daluzduque at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 11:12:12 2007 From: nicolas.daluzduque at gmail.com (Nicolas da Luz Duque) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:12:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: ALL TEAMS: Speaker Representatives] In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704130631h26f83796r10ae12c10beccf85@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176454116.20882.10.camel@localhost> <6d731d6e0704130350l2821cfdaj8c395372f788fe2e@mail.gmail.com> <1176470061.28153.7.camel@localhost> <4e46f0fd0704130631h26f83796r10ae12c10beccf85@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176891132.9174.8.camel@Rakuen> Le vendredi 13 avril 2007 ? 15:31 +0200, mongolito404 a ?crit : > Hoi, > > And since it's about speaking at conference, it's and other "job" than > being Ubuntu-be spokesman (or press contact). Wee need people with > some presentation skills and who feels comfortable speaking to a large > audience. > > On 4/13/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > > This is about speaking at conferences, seminars & the like, so we > > probably need to list one or both of you for speaking in English too? > I have already given two conferences about Free Software and Ubuntu. One at the ULB, and one in my hometown of Waterloo. I am pretty comfortable speaking in front of a large audience, and while I only have done it in French for now, I feel I could do it in English. -- Nicolas da Luz Duque Jabber GPG: 1024D/89533945 | 4646 3449 8BB1 D2E9 6122 08B2 084E 7833 8953 3945 From guy at linux-service.be Wed Apr 18 12:13:58 2007 From: guy at linux-service.be (guy duportail) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:13:58 +0100 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ict praktijkdag Message-ID: <200704181313.58478.guy@linux-service.be> http://www.ictdag.be intresse? Ik betaal als ik ook www.multiseatcomputer.be kan demonstreren natuurlijk moet het goedgekeurd worden door de organisator en sponsor(ms) guy From mehercle at linux-info.be Wed Apr 18 12:09:54 2007 From: mehercle at linux-info.be (Gunirus) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:09:54 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <200704181114.57246.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <4e46f0fd0704170948t526c2d71ld3685a26bdbf3625@mail.gmail.com> <200704181114.57246.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> Message-ID: <200704181309.58867.mehercle@linux-info.be> On woensdag 18 april 2007, Wouter Horr? wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 18:48, mongolito404 wrote: > > yes, if your zipcode was invalid (300 in stead of 3000), your profile > > has not been imported. If it's ok for you, the easiest for us is that > > you register again. > > I have registered again. 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From 03taxi at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 13:08:59 2007 From: 03taxi at gmail.com (Michel Daggelinckx) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:08:59 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46260A5B.8030002@gmail.com> mongolito404 schreef: > Hoi, > > The plan is to put the new support points map in production at > http://map.ubuntu-be.org for April the 12th. I asked for test last > week and got bugs reported. Most bugs are fixed, but they were the > easiest. Currently there is two bugs for which we don't have a fix in > the bzr repository and for which we don't see an easy solution that > could implemented for the 12th. There is also a bug reported that I > cannot reproduce and for which more info is needed. > You can see these three bug at > * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/103503 > * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/103485 > * https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bug/101903 > > These three bugs are important but I don't see them a stoppers, > because the new application work at least as good as the old one event > with these. So I'm thinking about going in production even with these > three bugs unfixed. But I prefer to ask you what is your opinion. If > any of you think that going in production with these bugs is an error, > please show up. > > Off course, any help is welcome and needed. Especially on these three > bugs but not only. > > I'm registered as a support point but have since moved. I cant find any option to change my adress on the map. From wouter-ubuntu at horre.be Wed Apr 18 13:12:34 2007 From: wouter-ubuntu at horre.be (Wouter =?iso-8859-15?q?Horr=E9?=) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:12:34 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <200704181309.58867.mehercle@linux-info.be> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <200704181114.57246.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> <200704181309.58867.mehercle@linux-info.be> Message-ID: <200704181412.34465.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> On Wednesday 18 April 2007 13:09, Gunirus wrote: > On woensdag 18 april 2007, Wouter Horr? wrote: > > I have registered again. When I confirmed my registration, it said that > > my confirmation code was not a valid confirmation code, but my > > registration seems to be completed... > > i had the same 'problem' Did you also use kubuntu/kde and konqueror? I think I know what the 'problem' might be. I have set the option 'open http and https URLs in an application based on the contents of the URL'. I guess kde visits the url (http head?) to determine the mime-type of the response and then opens the url in an application based on the mime-type. So the page that was opened in konqueror was the second time the url is visited ... regards Wouter ps: to fix the 'problem' it should be allowed to confirm a registration twice (with the second time being a null operation) ... -- http://wouter.horre.be/ From guy at linux-service.be Wed Apr 18 13:24:28 2007 From: guy at linux-service.be (guy duportail) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:24:28 +0100 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ict praktijkdag In-Reply-To: <200704181313.58478.guy@linux-service.be> References: <200704181313.58478.guy@linux-service.be> Message-ID: <200704181424.29148.guy@linux-service.be> reeds antwoord gekregen: guy ------------------------------------------------------- Beste, ? Dank voor de interesse. Ik verwacht eerstdaags extra info over de ICT-beurs en modaliteiten voor de standhouders. We herbekijken intern een aantal zaken omdat ik erop aangedrongen heb de ICT-beurs open te stellen voor iedereen. Niet evident, want de ICT-praktijkdag is uitgewerkt vanuit Microsoft en wordt nog steeds enorm gesteund door hen. ? Maar gelukkig is Microsoft Belgi? op educatief vlak zeer open voor samenwerking en lijkt het in orde te komen om ook open source toepassingen voor te stellen. ? Dank voor het geduld. Zodra ik meer info heb, speel ik het door. ? Mvg Hans De Four Mede-organisator ICT-praktijkdag www.ictdag.be ? Van: guy at linux-service.be [mailto:guy at linux-service.be] Verzonden: woensdag 18 april 2007 13:01 Aan: hans at klascement.net Onderwerp: ICTdag.be : Interesse als exposant ? Bedrijf : linux-service.be Website : http://www.multiseatcomputer.be Naam : guy duportail (man) Adres : grenadierslaan 65 9890 gavere Contact : E-mail : guy at linux-service.be Telefoon : 093908078 Fax : 093846765 Interesse voor : exposant Opmerkingen : Op woensdag 18 april 2007 13:13, schreef guy duportail: > http://www.ictdag.be > > intresse? > Ik betaal als ik ook > www.multiseatcomputer.be > kan demonstreren > > natuurlijk moet het goedgekeurd worden door de organisator en sponsor(ms) > > guy From mehercle at linux-info.be Wed Apr 18 13:22:30 2007 From: mehercle at linux-info.be (Gunirus) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:22:30 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support points map status In-Reply-To: <200704181412.34465.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> References: <4e46f0fd0704101313k7bd02bc4j4a928a73b2ffc89a@mail.gmail.com> <200704181309.58867.mehercle@linux-info.be> <200704181412.34465.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> Message-ID: <200704181422.34889.mehercle@linux-info.be> On woensdag 18 april 2007, Wouter Horr? wrote: > On Wednesday 18 April 2007 13:09, Gunirus wrote: > > On woensdag 18 april 2007, Wouter Horr? wrote: > > > I have registered again. When I confirmed my registration, it said that > > > my confirmation code was not a valid confirmation code, but my > > > registration seems to be completed... > > > > i had the same 'problem' > > Did you also use kubuntu/kde and konqueror? I think I know what the > 'problem' might be. I have set the option 'open http and https URLs in an > application based on the contents of the URL'. I guess kde visits the url > (http head?) to determine the mime-type of the response and then opens the > url in an application based on the mime-type. So the page that was opened > in konqueror was the second time the url is visited ... > > regards > Wouter > > ps: to fix the 'problem' it should be allowed to confirm a registration > twice (with the second time being a null operation) ... > > -- > http://wouter.horre.be/ Firefox, not even (x)buntu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On top-right of map.ubuntu-be.org there should be a menu a "login" entry. Once legged in with your email address and the paswword provided at registration, you should find a "edit my profile" entry in the menu. If you can't remember the password you provided at registration, there is also a "lost password" entry. P. From mvdborre at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 14:02:11 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:02:11 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] press coverage -> please keep your eyes open Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704180602v63840aa7i5cce21a1a87524b8@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Could you please add Belgian Ubuntu press coverage to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PressCoverage Thank you. P.S. The Clickx article series is not in there yet... -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Wed Apr 18 20:47:20 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:47:20 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Gratis computers ... In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704160546u2c98b267x7d1419dc312c9a47@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070416133803.n6rjreh668ssc8s4@webmail.brits.name> <77d1ad090704160546u2c98b267x7d1419dc312c9a47@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176925640.5278.2.camel@kevin-desktop> Op ma, 16-04-2007 te 14:46 +0200, schreef Cedric Janssens: > I didn't really understood the first message, but the message seems > really clear here in ICDI area : It's totally forbidden to take out > anything out the container park. I don't know for other parks. > > Regards > Cedric > > > 2007/4/16, Karel Brits : > In hoeverre is het diefstal, als je die pc's zelf kan > recycleren? Je > helpt de natuur toch een handje? Als het containerpark > daarmee > akkoord is, wat is er dan mis mee? De eigenaar is er vanaf > geraakt en > jij helpt om het product verder te recycleren en nieuw leven > in te > blazen. Dat is toch geen diefstal? > > How can this be seen as theft, when you're able to recycle > those pc's? > The owner got rid of it, he didn't need them anymore. You're > able > to give the pc's a second life. And when they agree that you > take > those pc's with you, how can it be theft then? > > > > Karel > > > Op maandag 16-04-2007 om 06:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef > Marc: > > Op een containerpark, waar ze (oogluikend ?? of > "reglementair") > > toelaten dat je wat meeneemt, nam ik verleden week 3 bakken > van comps > > mee. > > Dat is diefstal, en ga je dus maar ergens anders bespreken. > This is theft, so please go talk about this elsewhere. > > > -- > Jan Claeys > > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration > options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > Here in Flemish-Brabant , Rotselaar(my village) it is perfectly legal to collect stuff out of the containerparks. It even get's recommened for recycling purposes. I today brought a chair to the containerpark and when I went for a second garbage delivery the local scouts already recycled my brought in chair. Kevin -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Wed Apr 18 20:51:08 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:51:08 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> Op di, 17-04-2007 te 15:53 +0200, schreef Philippe Piquer: > This is a nice idea ... > let's eat ... heu meet some fawns ;) > > PhiL Deers I get in my backyard, but fawns that's something worth seeing. -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From mvdborre at gmail.com Wed Apr 18 21:08:36 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:08:36 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] press coverage -> please keep your eyes open In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704180602v63840aa7i5cce21a1a87524b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704180602v63840aa7i5cce21a1a87524b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704181308t2c5f6294kc49da349a9e97c0d@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/18, Mark Van den Borre : > Hi all, > > Could you please add Belgian Ubuntu press coverage to > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PressCoverage > > Thank you. A few really good additions by Dirk Tas. Thank you for that! Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From bartek at ubuntu-nl.org Thu Apr 19 07:59:43 2007 From: bartek at ubuntu-nl.org (Bart Broeckx) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:59:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested In-Reply-To: <462604C9.6080500@gmail.com> References: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> <462604C9.6080500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5ef5829b0704182359mafa10duad5d957db46770e8@mail.gmail.com> The Hasselt Computerfair is may 20, so Mark: Make sure you can deliver a box to me ;-) Greetz, 2007/4/18 Jan Claeys schreef: > > > They will be delivered at Mark's place, and then distributed from there. > > -- Bart Broeckx Willekensmolenstraat 83/7 3500 Hasselt 0476/66.20.80 bartek at ubuntu-nl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/f2a52ffc/attachment.htm From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 08:58:00 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:58:00 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested In-Reply-To: <5ef5829b0704182359mafa10duad5d957db46770e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> <462604C9.6080500@gmail.com> <5ef5829b0704182359mafa10duad5d957db46770e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704190058r12a7e846u7025f49d1ab6956@mail.gmail.com> Well... we have to manage the CD carefully.... There are about twenty fairs / year As there is a release every six months, let's say 10 fairs.... If we want to manage those free CD : we have to use 40 CD / fair. Do you think it's realistic ? Can we envisage a kind of remuneration / cd ? About 2 euros / CD. When those cd are sold, we'll have money to order new ones if we couldn't have free ones. If ordered, the cost is 1,5 euro / CD Or money to press a Belgian CD (818 euros / 1000 CD) Is this forbidden by Canonical or not ? Regards Cedric 2007/4/19, Bart Broeckx : > > The Hasselt Computerfair is may 20, so Mark: Make sure you can deliver a > box to me > ;-) > > Greetz, > > 2007/4/18 Jan Claeys schreef: > > > > > > They will be delivered at Mark's place, and then distributed from > > there. > > > > > > > -- > Bart Broeckx > Willekensmolenstraat 83/7 > 3500 Hasselt > > 0476/66.20.80 > bartek at ubuntu-nl.org > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/e32ebd12/attachment.htm From baan135 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 19 09:54:06 2007 From: baan135 at hotmail.com (Edgar Ruhnke) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:54:06 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] FW: Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:58:00 +0200From: decirc at gmail.comTo: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.comSubject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested Well... we have to manage the CD carefully.... There are about twenty fairs / year As there is a release every six months, let's say 10 fairs.... If we want to manage those free CD : we have to use 40 CD / fair. Do you think it's realistic ? Can we envisage a kind of remuneration / cd ? About 2 euros / CD. When those cd are sold, we'll have money to order new ones if we couldn't have free ones. If ordered, the cost is 1,5 euro / CD Or money to press a Belgian CD (818 euros / 1000 CD) Is this forbidden by Canonical or not ? Regards Cedric 2007/4/19, Bart Broeckx : The Hasselt Computerfair is may 20, so Mark: Make sure you can deliver a box to me;-)Greetz, 2007/4/18 Jan Claeys schreef: > They will be delivered at Mark's place, and then distributed from there.-- Bart BroeckxWillekensmolenstraat 83/73500 Hasselt0476/66.20.80 bartek at ubuntu-nl.org --ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.comYou can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be _________________________________________________________________ Ontdek Windows Live Hotmail, het ultieme online mailprogramma! http://get.live.com/mail/overview -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/20787869/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00001 Url: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/20787869/attachment.diff From rr at lilit.be Thu Apr 19 10:12:32 2007 From: rr at lilit.be (Snulkid) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704190058r12a7e846u7025f49d1ab6956@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> <462604C9.6080500@gmail.com><5ef5829b0704182359mafa10duad5d957db46770e8@mail.gmail.com> <77d1ad090704190058r12a7e846u7025f49d1ab6956@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <36700.213.177.69.226.1176973952.squirrel@panel.lost-oasis.net> > Well... we have to manage the CD carefully.... > There are about twenty fairs / year > > As there is a release every six months, let's say 10 fairs.... CDs are not going to be as attractive in 3 months as they are now. So I would rather try using the "hot new product" argument to distribute/sell them now instead of risking to have unused CDs remaining in 6 months. My 0.02 EUR. > Can we envisage a kind of remuneration / cd ? > About 2 euros / CD. > > Is this forbidden by Canonical or not ? I'm rather confused with ubuntu-be politics regarding CDs (official? personalised ? pressed ? free or sold?) but just for information : I mentioned earlier that our LUG LiLiT asked to Canonical if we could sell their CDs to cover our booth costs. The answer was (sort of) "theoretically yes but we won't keep on delivering you CDs in this case." Maybe their politics has changed, or maybe a Locoteam gets a different treatment. I would be interested to know what answer you will get. Regards -- snulkid From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 10:24:06 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:24:06 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested In-Reply-To: <36700.213.177.69.226.1176973952.squirrel@panel.lost-oasis.net> References: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> <462604C9.6080500@gmail.com> <5ef5829b0704182359mafa10duad5d957db46770e8@mail.gmail.com> <77d1ad090704190058r12a7e846u7025f49d1ab6956@mail.gmail.com> <36700.213.177.69.226.1176973952.squirrel@panel.lost-oasis.net> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704190224s60264a22ic62f3c348df62f3c@mail.gmail.com> It was just a proposal/interrogation... But as it seems Canonical doesn't like this way, it's a bad way. Personnally, the best solution is to give free belgian pressed cd AND free official cd from Canonical too. But as I don't yet have won to Euro-Millions, I can't give a solution to provide it. It was just a matter of reflexion.... Regards Cedric 2007/4/19, Snulkid : > > > Well... we have to manage the CD carefully.... > > There are about twenty fairs / year > > > > As there is a release every six months, let's say 10 fairs.... > > CDs are not going to be as attractive in 3 months as they are now. So I > would rather try using the "hot new product" argument to distribute/sell > them now instead of risking to have unused CDs remaining in 6 months. My > 0.02 EUR. > > > Can we envisage a kind of remuneration / cd ? > > About 2 euros / CD. > > > > Is this forbidden by Canonical or not ? > > I'm rather confused with ubuntu-be politics regarding CDs (official? > personalised ? pressed ? free or sold?) but just for information : I > mentioned earlier that our LUG LiLiT asked to Canonical if we could sell > their CDs to cover our booth costs. The answer was (sort of) > "theoretically > yes but we won't keep on delivering you CDs in this case." > Maybe their politics has changed, or maybe a Locoteam gets a different > treatment. I would be interested to know what answer you will get. > > Regards > -- > snulkid > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/52b63e2c/attachment.htm From mvdborre at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 11:08:08 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:08:08 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested In-Reply-To: <36700.213.177.69.226.1176973952.squirrel@panel.lost-oasis.net> References: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> <462604C9.6080500@gmail.com> <5ef5829b0704182359mafa10duad5d957db46770e8@mail.gmail.com> <77d1ad090704190058r12a7e846u7025f49d1ab6956@mail.gmail.com> <36700.213.177.69.226.1176973952.squirrel@panel.lost-oasis.net> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704190308u544822bcu2952aadffbaa1e63@mail.gmail.com> Hi Reginald, 2007/4/19, Snulkid : > I'm rather confused with ubuntu-be politics regarding CDs (official? > personalised ? pressed ? free or sold?) but just for information : How things currently work, bullet style: * We don't and will not sell Canonical supplied cd's. We do accept donations. * We have a limited supply of cd's from Canonical. This is not a right. We can't rely on it for the long term. * We distribute between 150 and 250 cd's per fair. * We often need to burn extra cd's to complement the Canonical supplied ones. * We pay a levy of 0.12? per burned cd-r to Auvibel. Future work, short term: * Pressed cd logistics: No need to send cd's around within Belgium when you already know how many you will need, and where. Local fair responsibles might want to ask for 250 cd's per fair they are responsible for. Please don't do this yet! This would need coordination at ubuntu-be.org level! * Avoid aubivel levy: Go buy a pile of cd's in Luxemburg. Burn them there (hint: how would auvibel check that?). Bring them back to Belgium. Future work, medium term: * Someone, stand up and create a localised Ubuntu cd for nl_be and/or fr_be! Future options, long term: * Keep on burning. AND/OR * Pressing a localised cd with sponsoring. AND/OR * Cooperate with magazines and other parties. They press the cd, we distribute (part of) it. Sincerely, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From vincent at mangelschots.be Thu Apr 19 11:55:39 2007 From: vincent at mangelschots.be (Vincent Mangelschots) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:55:39 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] voorstellen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1176980139.10852.9.camel@hermes> Aangezien er op de website staat dat er wordt aangeraden uzelf een keerjte voor te stellen als je je inschrijft zal ik dat maar doen zeker:). Ik ben vincent mangelschots woon in olen (naast herentals) draai ondertussen 4 jaar linux. Distros die ik al geprobeerd heb: red hat, fedora, gentoo, centos, debian, ubuntu en dan nog wat dingen. Mijn pc inventory: Macbook pro 15' Amd 4600+X2 (of 4800 weet het niet meer) met gig ram ,36 gig 10000rpm raptor schijf voor os en 1,2 terra raid 5 voor data SGI onyx3400 (met irix geen linux) hppa-risc uit de jaren stilletjes met debian op (denk een hp 712 of zoiets :)) Tussen mijn studies door amuzeer ik mij ook nog als system administrator voor mijn vader en als jobstudent voor een it-bedrijf in antwerpen. voila dat zalt zowat zijn. Als je iets anders wil weten mag je het altijd vragen :) From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be Thu Apr 19 12:08:32 2007 From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:08:32 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Aanwezigheid om vrijesoftware voor scholen te demonstreren op Mei 3, 4 en 5 2007 Message-ID: in http://lists.lists.klascement.net/pipermail/vrijesoftware/2007-March/000686.html en enkele andere emails, word er gesignaleerd dat gedurende de Wetenschap Expo-Sciences, kunnen we VS voor de scholen (zaols leerlingen, hun ouders en de leerkrachten) tonen. Op 3 , 4 en 5 Mei 2007, gedurende dat Wetenschap Expo-Sciences, zal de bxlug (de Linux user groep van Brussel) aanwezig zijn in Heyzel om VS te demontreren voor jongens en meisjes die hun wetenschapelijk projecten zullen tonen. Wij zullen een tiental computers hebben, en we zijn op zoek naar Nederlandstalige gebruikers van VS, indien mogelijk in scholen, om ons te helpen, en om deze VS te demonstreren en voorstellen. Kennen jullie enkelen gebruikers of leraren die we zouden kunnen contacteren om enkele VS in het Nederlands kunnen demonstreren en meer belangrijk, hun "experience" te verdelen ? (wij zullen ongeveer 15 computers zullen hebben met Ubuntu / Edubuntu en een met windows en VS voor windows) Zie https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/WEXS_2007 http://wiki.bxlug.be/Wexs2007/Planning Met vriendelijk groeten, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 12:15:49 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:15:49 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> Message-ID: <10729bd00704190415o421add3dvc58716fbce8c2934@mail.gmail.com> Mark , on what time do you plan to leave Erpe-mere ?? To see if my morning schedule would fit with your departure time so I can join you for the ride ... 2007/4/18, Kevin Elaerts : > > Op di, 17-04-2007 te 15:53 +0200, schreef Philippe Piquer: > > This is a nice idea ... > > let's eat ... heu meet some fawns ;) > > > > PhiL > Deers I get in my backyard, but fawns that's something worth seeing. > -- > Kevin Elaerts > He who likes free software, > but also free beer ;) > kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/082551b4/attachment.htm From mvdborre at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 12:19:22 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:19:22 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704190415o421add3dvc58716fbce8c2934@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> <10729bd00704190415o421add3dvc58716fbce8c2934@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704190419s74f203e1sd6de6f0752831e1@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/19, Philippe Piquer : > Mark , on what time do you plan to leave Erpe-mere ?? > To see if my morning schedule would fit with your departure time so I can > join you for the ride ... > Erpe-Mere around 12.30. Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 12:32:56 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:32:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704190419s74f203e1sd6de6f0752831e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> <10729bd00704190415o421add3dvc58716fbce8c2934@mail.gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704190419s74f203e1sd6de6f0752831e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10729bd00704190432m28f9fd5ax61c6ef430cba7171@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm that might be a little short .... would it be possible to meet on the freeway service station before Brussel, it would give some extra time to get there without hitting the 10.000 rpm on my bike :) 2007/4/19, Mark Van den Borre : > > 2007/4/19, Philippe Piquer : > > Mark , on what time do you plan to leave Erpe-mere ?? > > To see if my morning schedule would fit with your departure time so I > can > > join you for the ride ... > > > Erpe-Mere around 12.30. > > Mark > -- > Mark Van den Borre > Noormannenstraat 113 > 3000 Leuven, Belgi? > +32 486 961726 > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/c9575ada/attachment.htm From mvdborre at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 12:53:51 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:53:51 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704190432m28f9fd5ax61c6ef430cba7171@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> <10729bd00704190415o421add3dvc58716fbce8c2934@mail.gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704190419s74f203e1sd6de6f0752831e1@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704190432m28f9fd5ax61c6ef430cba7171@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704190453r6b6af47w6c9612a03c2c07a2@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/19, Philippe Piquer : > Hmmm that might be a little short .... > would it be possible to meet on the freeway service station before Brussel, > it would give some extra time to get there without hitting the 10.000 rpm on > my bike :) Sure. Contact me in private about exact time and date. Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 13:27:58 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:27:58 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704190453r6b6af47w6c9612a03c2c07a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> <10729bd00704190415o421add3dvc58716fbce8c2934@mail.gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704190419s74f203e1sd6de6f0752831e1@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704190432m28f9fd5ax61c6ef430cba7171@mail.gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704190453r6b6af47w6c9612a03c2c07a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704190527p21c1a8b6x3280aad3ca055698@mail.gmail.com> Is there public transportation available to go there ? 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URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/3361792c/attachment.htm From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 14:00:35 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:00:35 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704190542mfd2c09au20f2c1b7aff1e214@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704170653i37b9b57dt44322e92eef2564d@mail.gmail.com> <1176925868.5278.4.camel@kevin-desktop> <10729bd00704190415o421add3dvc58716fbce8c2934@mail.gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704190419s74f203e1sd6de6f0752831e1@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704190432m28f9fd5ax61c6ef430cba7171@mail.gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704190453r6b6af47w6c9612a03c2c07a2@mail.gmail.com> <77d1ad090704190527p21c1a8b6x3280aad3ca055698@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704190542mfd2c09au20f2c1b7aff1e214@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704190600r231786cemb28608a5c46bd3a5@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/19, Philippe Piquer : > > On a sunday , public transportation is hmmmm how to say it :( > Train to Li?ge and then ? > > 2007/4/19, Cedric Janssens : > > > > Is there public transportation available to go there ? > > > > Regards > > Cedric > > > The problem is I'm moving with my little family : a wife, two sons, a daughter.... and my car is out of service... So, I won't be there this time... Regards Cedric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/a585dc76/attachment.htm From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 16:03:02 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:03:02 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! Message-ID: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> Feisty fawn is out ! Hurry up ! Use torrent to download it and share it ! Regards Cedric http://www.ubuntu.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/9c6dd088/attachment-0001.htm From laurent.pirotte at skynet.be Thu Apr 19 18:15:29 2007 From: laurent.pirotte at skynet.be (Laurent Pirotte) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:15:29 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704190308u544822bcu2952aadffbaa1e63@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> <36700.213.177.69.226.1176973952.squirrel@panel.lost-oasis.net> <6d731d6e0704190308u544822bcu2952aadffbaa1e63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704191915.29716.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> Hi Mark, I have requested a bid for 1000 pressed CDs and the price is about 0,919? per CD (with a face printed in 4 coulours & a cardboard sleeve also printed in 4 colours on both faces). At Bxlug we find this price nice but ... we don't need 1000CDs and if we decrease the number of order CDs the price ... increase drastically (1000 CDs is the minimum to order when CDs are "pressed") On the other hand, if we order more than 1000 CDs the price continue to decrease (0,645?/pc for 2000pc, 0,480?/pc for 3000pc, ...) I think that other LUG are interested by the distribution of Feisty CDs and that there is still some event in the calendar for the next 6 month. Is it not possible to work together and share the cost of these pressed CDs ? According to my contact (Francesco RUFFO, +32 (0)2 772 13 31), it takes only about 8 open days between the ordering and the delivery. for more info look at : http://www.dti.be I agree that it's beeter to offer them but it's seems more realistic to ask 1? per CD to cover our cost. Otherwise we have to find a sponsor. But I think it's important to distribute these live CDs. A lot of people don't understand what an ISO file is and will never test Ubuntu if they must build the CD themselve. Regards Le Jeudi 19 Avril 2007 12:08, Mark Van den Borre a ?crit?: > Hi Reginald, > > 2007/4/19, Snulkid : > > I'm rather confused with ubuntu-be politics regarding CDs (official? > > personalised ? pressed ? free or sold?) but just for information : > How things currently work, bullet style: > * We don't and will not sell Canonical supplied cd's. We do accept donations. > * We have a limited supply of cd's from Canonical. This is not a > right. We can't rely on it for the long term. > * We distribute between 150 and 250 cd's per fair. > * We often need to burn extra cd's to complement the Canonical supplied ones. > * We pay a levy of 0.12? per burned cd-r to Auvibel. > > Future work, short term: > * Pressed cd logistics: No need to send cd's around within Belgium > when you already know how many you will need, and where. Local fair > responsibles might want to ask for 250 cd's per fair they are > responsible for. Please don't do this yet! This would need > coordination at ubuntu-be.org level! > * Avoid aubivel levy: Go buy a pile of cd's in Luxemburg. Burn them > there (hint: how would auvibel check that?). Bring them back to > Belgium. > > Future work, medium term: > * Someone, stand up and create a localised Ubuntu cd for nl_be and/or fr_be! > > Future options, long term: > * Keep on burning. > AND/OR * Pressing a localised cd with sponsoring. > AND/OR * Cooperate with magazines and other parties. They press the > cd, we distribute (part of) it. > > Sincerely, > > Mark > -- > Mark Van den Borre > Noormannenstraat 113 > 3000 Leuven, Belgi? > +32 486 961726 > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurent Pirotte Laurent.Pirotte at skynet.be http://users.skynet.be/pirotte.lenders/laurent/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Essayez l'open source, testez Kubuntu ! http://www.kubuntu-fr.org/ http://www.getgnulinux.org/fr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- From patrick.coeman at 171.be Thu Apr 19 18:28:43 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:28:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> I upgrade... I reboot: uname -a: Linux s3000ah 2.6.17-50-generic #2 SMP Tue Jan 23 13:44:59 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux lsb_release -a: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 7.04 Release: 7.04 Codename: feisty Cedric Janssens schreef: > Feisty fawn is out ! > > Hurry up ! Use torrent to download it and share it ! > > Regards > Cedric > > http://www.ubuntu.com/ > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From Peter.Dedecker at UGent.be Thu Apr 19 18:31:34 2007 From: Peter.Dedecker at UGent.be (Peter Dedecker) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:31:34 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> Message-ID: <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> Patrick Coeman schreef: > uname -a: Linux s3000ah 2.6.17-50-generic #2 SMP Tue Jan 23 13:44:59 UTC > 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux Why that kernel? 2.6.20 is the default one now. -- Peter Dedecker Isabellakaai 124 - 9000 Gent GSM: 0486/15.23.20 Peter.Dedecker at UGent.be From patrick.coeman at 171.be Thu Apr 19 18:39:38 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:39:38 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> Message-ID: <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> That's why I published it ... New: Update manager doesn't work anymore... update-manager /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:69: GtkWarning: could not open display warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning) warning: could not initiate dbus /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: Warning: invalid (NULL) pointer instance return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: Warning: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: GtkWarning: gtk_settings_get_for_screen: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' f ailed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: Warning: g_object_get: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: GtkWarning: gdk_pango_context_get_for_screen: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (scree n)' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: PangoWarning: pango_context_set_font_description: assertion `context != NULL' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: PangoWarning: pango_context_set_base_dir: assertion `context != NULL' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: PangoWarning: pango_context_set_language: assertion `context != NULL' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: Warning: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: GtkWarning: gdk_screen_get_display: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: GtkWarning: gdk_keymap_get_for_display: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) Segmentatiefout (core dumped) root at s3000ah:~# Peter Dedecker schreef: > Patrick Coeman schreef: >> uname -a: Linux s3000ah 2.6.17-50-generic #2 SMP Tue Jan 23 13:44:59 UTC >> 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Why that kernel? 2.6.20 is the default one now. > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From roelhuybrechts at skynet.be Thu Apr 19 18:43:05 2007 From: roelhuybrechts at skynet.be (Roel Huybrechts) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:43:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> Message-ID: <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 19:39 +0200, Patrick Coeman wrote: > That's why I published it ... > > New: Update manager doesn't work anymore... > > update-manager > /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:69: > GtkWarning: could not open display > warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning) > warning: could not initiate dbus > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > Warning: invalid (NULL) pointer instance > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > Warning: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' > failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > GtkWarning: gtk_settings_get_for_screen: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN > (screen)' f ailed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > Warning: g_object_get: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > GtkWarning: gdk_pango_context_get_for_screen: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN > (scree n)' failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > PangoWarning: pango_context_set_font_description: assertion `context != > NULL' failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > PangoWarning: pango_context_set_base_dir: assertion `context != NULL' failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > PangoWarning: pango_context_set_language: assertion `context != NULL' failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > Warning: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > GtkWarning: gdk_screen_get_display: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' > failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/UpdateManager/Common/SimpleGladeApp.py:335: > GtkWarning: gdk_keymap_get_for_display: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY > (display)' failed > return gtk.glade.XML(self.glade_path, root, domain) > Segmentatiefout (core dumped) > root at s3000ah:~# > > > > Peter Dedecker schreef: > > Patrick Coeman schreef: > >> uname -a: Linux s3000ah 2.6.17-50-generic #2 SMP Tue Jan 23 13:44:59 UTC > >> 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > > Why that kernel? 2.6.20 is the default one now. > > > > -- > Patrick Coeman > > 171.be > ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - > openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD > BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 > Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 > www.171.be - www.171hosting.be > > De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet > zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. > Please file a bug at Launchpad [1], or check if one is already there. 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At Bxlug we find this price nice but ... we don't > need 1000CDs and if we decrease the number of order CDs the price ... > increase drastically (1000 CDs is the minimum to order when CDs > are "pressed") > > On the other hand, if we order more than 1000 CDs the price continue to > decrease (0,645?/pc for 2000pc, 0,480?/pc for 3000pc, ...) > > I think that other LUG are interested by the distribution of Feisty CDs and > that there is still some event in the calendar for the next 6 month. Is it > not possible to work together and share the cost of these pressed CDs ? This is a discussion we're not out of yet. First step is a localised iso. Even if I find this highly interesting, I'm not going to do that myself, so someone else will have to stand up. > I agree that it's beeter to offer them but it's seems more realistic to ask 1? > per CD to cover our cost. I was only referrring to the cd's we receive for free from Canonical. > Otherwise we have to find a sponsor. But I think > it's important to distribute these live CDs. A lot of people don't understand > what an ISO file is and will never test Ubuntu if they must build the CD > themselve. Agreed. Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 20:01:33 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:01:33 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version Message-ID: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> Well As we are discussing about a localized version, I'm interested launching the project. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD If there are some people who wants to participate to discuss about it, please put your name on this page. We have to make the list of changes to do. And then I can create the iso. So who's interested ? Regards Cedric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark Van den Borre a ?crit : > Erpe-Mere around 12.30. > > Mark Talking about this, what time do you think you'll hit Li?ge/Luik? :-) Are you still willing/able to take passengers there? B?n?dicte and I, for example... ;-p Alexandre From patrick.coeman at 171.be Thu Apr 19 21:13:10 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:13:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> Message-ID: <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> After a apt-get upgrade everything works fine... Roel Huybrechts schreef: > > Please file a bug at Launchpad [1], or check if one is already there. > Thanks. > > [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From ubuntu at janc.be Thu Apr 19 21:16:37 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:16:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] voorstellen In-Reply-To: <1176980139.10852.9.camel@hermes> References: <1176980139.10852.9.camel@hermes> Message-ID: <1177013797.28153.265.camel@localhost> Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 12:55 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Vincent Mangelschots: > Macbook pro 15' Met Ubuntu er op? :) -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Thu Apr 19 21:20:09 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:20:09 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> Message-ID: <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 22:13 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Patrick Coeman: > After a apt-get upgrade everything works fine... How did you upgrade the first time? -- Jan Claeys From vincent at mangelschots.be Thu Apr 19 21:23:22 2007 From: vincent at mangelschots.be (Vincent Mangelschots) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:23:22 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] voorstellen In-Reply-To: <1177013797.28153.265.camel@localhost> References: <1176980139.10852.9.camel@hermes> <1177013797.28153.265.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177014202.6213.6.camel@hermes> Natuurlijk. Nu nog edgy binnen een uurtje feisty :) On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 22:16 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 12:55 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Vincent > Mangelschots: > > Macbook pro 15' > > Met Ubuntu er op? :) > > -- > Jan Claeys > > From ubuntu at janc.be Thu Apr 19 21:24:03 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:24:03 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 21:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric Janssens: > As we are discussing about a localized version, I'm interested > launching the project. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD > > If there are some people who wants to participate to discuss about it, > please put your name on this page. > > We have to make the list of changes to do. > > And then I can create the iso. > > So who's interested ? I've said I'm interested at FOSDEM, but I need a new development system first (faster & especially with more RAM). -- Jan Claeys From decirc at gmail.com Thu Apr 19 21:28:01 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:28:01 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> References: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> By the way, one or two versions for Belgium ? 2007/4/19, Jan Claeys : > > Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 21:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric > Janssens: > > As we are discussing about a localized version, I'm interested > > launching the project. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070419/ed08a02b/attachment.htm From patrick.coeman at 171.be Thu Apr 19 21:44:02 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:44:02 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4627D492.6010906@171.be> Via update-manager -c -d. Then I got the error messages. Then the classic way: * Edit the /etc/apt/sources.list as root. Change every occurrence of edgy to feisty. * sudo apt-get update * sudo apt-get dist-upgrade * Reboot * Check Running via the terminal update-manager still gives errors, via the gui it seems to work. Kernel is now: Linux s3000ah 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux Jan Claeys schreef: > Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 22:13 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Patrick > Coeman: >> After a apt-get upgrade everything works fine... > > How did you upgrade the first time? > > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From patrick.coeman at 171.be Thu Apr 19 21:46:11 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:46:11 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4627D513.4090105@171.be> 3, a Dutch one, a Flemish one and a antwerp version ;-) Cedric Janssens schreef: > By the way, one or two versions for Belgium ? > > 2007/4/19, Jan Claeys >: > > Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 21:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric > Janssens: > > As we are discussing about a localized version, I'm interested > > launching the project. > > > > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From gaetan at frenoy.net Thu Apr 19 21:59:08 2007 From: gaetan at frenoy.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ga=EBtan_Frenoy?=) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:59:08 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4074.192.168.1.19.1177016348.squirrel@192.168.1.19> > By the way, one or two versions for Belgium ? Two (i mean, at least two). The neat thing is to get the very first boot screen in your own language and not to have to mess up with keyboard layout. -- Ga?tan From profox at ubuntu-nl.org Thu Apr 19 22:14:59 2007 From: profox at ubuntu-nl.org (Wesley S.) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:14:59 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> Readers of the Ubuntu Netherlands mailing list probably already read this message. Dennis asked us (me and Bartek) if we could do the same thing in Ubuntu-BE. What do you guys/girls think? I'm sorry, the original mail is Dutch only, but I'll try to summarise it in short: - NL orders a lot of t-shirt's and polo's - sizes available: S to XXXXL - colors available: blue and black - they have a 4.5 x 4.5cm Ubuntu logo stitched in the top left - photo of a polo: http://ubuntu.juliux.de/shirt/polo.jpg The original mail that Dennis sent to the Ubuntu-NL mailing list: Hai mensen, > > Ubuntu DE maakt mooie T-Shirts en polos! > > Om verzendkosten een beetje te drukken wil ik voor .nl in 1 keer een > stapel shirts bestellen en dan in een paar kleine meetings verspreiden. > > Er zijn t-shirts en polos beschikbaar in de maten S t/m XXXXL, in blauw en > in zwart met een 4.5x4.5cm gestikt ubuntu logo linksboven. Zie > http://ubuntu.juliux.de/shirt/polo.jpg voor een foto van de polo. > > De prijs is 11 euro voor een shirt en 16 voor een polo. XXXL en XXXXL zijn > 1 euro duurder. > > Wie een t-shirt wil bestellen, wordt verzocht om VOOR 28 april een mail te > sturen naar dennis+shirt at ubuntu-nl.org Ook moet voor die datum het geld > overgemaakt zijn op girorekening 6988384 TNV DAA kaarsemaker te Lelystad > > De shirts worden in Mei besteld. Ik wil ze verspreiden in avondmeetings > (kroeg enzo) in: > > - Amsterdam > - Den Bosch > - Zwolle > > Wie doet er mee? So, are you guys in? And who wants to take care of receiving the money, making the order and making sure the t-shirt's and polo's get to the right person? If no one is willing to take the offer, I will probably do it myself. -- Wesley Stessens Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001) http://wesley.debianbox.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070420/8e9bf455/attachment.htm From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Fri Apr 20 06:49:56 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:49:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> Nice For me it would be a black polo sized L Should I follow the NL instructions for order or/and money ?? (but then I need IBAN/BIC info) Phil By the way , ubuntu-fr is also on the t-shirt path :) 2007/4/19, Wesley S. : > > Readers of the Ubuntu Netherlands mailing list probably already read this > message. Dennis asked us (me and Bartek) if we could do the same thing in > Ubuntu-BE. What do you guys/girls think? > > I'm sorry, the original mail is Dutch only, but I'll try to summarise it > in short: > - NL orders a lot of t-shirt's and polo's > - sizes available: S to XXXXL > - colors available: blue and black > - they have a 4.5 x 4.5cm Ubuntu logo stitched in the top left > - photo of a polo: http://ubuntu.juliux.de/shirt/polo.jpg > > The original mail that Dennis sent to the Ubuntu-NL mailing list: > > Hai mensen, > > > > Ubuntu DE maakt mooie T-Shirts en polos! > > > > Om verzendkosten een beetje te drukken wil ik voor .nl in 1 keer een > > stapel shirts bestellen en dan in een paar kleine meetings verspreiden. > > > > Er zijn t-shirts en polos beschikbaar in de maten S t/m XXXXL, in blauw > > en in zwart met een 4.5x4.5cm gestikt ubuntu logo linksboven. Zie http://ubuntu.juliux.de/shirt/polo.jpg > > voor een foto van de polo. > > > > De prijs is 11 euro voor een shirt en 16 voor een polo. XXXL en XXXXL > > zijn 1 euro duurder. > > > > Wie een t-shirt wil bestellen, wordt verzocht om VOOR 28 april een mail > > te sturen naar dennis+shirt at ubuntu-nl.org Ook moet voor die datum het > > geld overgemaakt zijn op girorekening 6988384 TNV DAA kaarsemaker te > > Lelystad > > > > De shirts worden in Mei besteld. Ik wil ze verspreiden in avondmeetings > > (kroeg enzo) in: > > > > - Amsterdam > > - Den Bosch > > - Zwolle > > > > Wie doet er mee? > > > So, are you guys in? And who wants to take care of receiving the money, > making the order and making sure the t-shirt's and polo's get to the right > person? If no one is willing to take the offer, I will probably do it > myself. > > -- > Wesley Stessens > Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001) > http://wesley.debianbox.be > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070420/8d97168c/attachment-0001.htm From rr at lilit.be Fri Apr 20 07:56:05 2007 From: rr at lilit.be (snulkid) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:56:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704190600r231786cemb28608a5c46bd3a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <10729bd00704190542mfd2c09au20f2c1b7aff1e214@mail.gmail.com> <77d1ad090704190600r231786cemb28608a5c46bd3a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704200856.05297.rr@lilit.be> Le jeudi 19 avril 2007 15:00, Cedric Janssens a ?crit?: > 2007/4/19, Philippe Piquer : > > On a sunday , public transportation is hmmmm how to say it :( > > Train to Li?ge and then ? There is a station in Spa (more or less 6 Km from La Reid park); if someone can pick you there... -- snulkid From mongolito404 at gmail.com Fri Apr 20 08:08:32 2007 From: mongolito404 at gmail.com (mongolito404) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:08:32 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: <4074.192.168.1.19.1177016348.squirrel@192.168.1.19> References: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> <4074.192.168.1.19.1177016348.squirrel@192.168.1.19> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704200008h62e82be3vc1da3fae0b331b84@mail.gmail.com> Hoi, imho, one with french, dutch and german (and english?) on it. But with three minor versions with the default language set to french, dutch or german. An Ubuntu-be CD should be usable to install Ubuntu anywhere in Belgium, regardless of it's default language. Unless there is no room for three or four language on a single CD. On 4/19/07, Ga?tan Frenoy wrote: > > > By the way, one or two versions for Belgium ? > > Two (i mean, at least two). > > The neat thing is to get the very first boot screen in > your own language and not to have to mess up with keyboard > layout. -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From serge at vanginderachter.be Fri Apr 20 08:36:16 2007 From: serge at vanginderachter.be (Serge van Ginderachter) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:36:16 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: <4e46f0fd0704200008h62e82be3vc1da3fae0b331b84@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> <4074.192.168.1.19.1177016348.squirrel@192.168.1.19> <4e46f0fd0704200008h62e82be3vc1da3fae0b331b84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177054577.7620.47.camel@localhost> On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 09:08 +0200, mongolito404 wrote: > imho, one with french, dutch and german (and english?) on it. But with > three minor versions with the default language set to french, dutch > or german. An Ubuntu-be CD should be usable to install Ubuntu anywhere > in Belgium, regardless of it's default language. Unless there is no > room for three or four language on a single CD. Stick to 1 version. Pressing cd's is already quite expensive, if we need to press different cd's, it will rise the cost. I'm Belgian, but I still prefer installing English versions. I'd opt for 1 version with English, French, Dutch and German and a simple language choice menu at bootup. Serge -- Serge van Ginderachter http://www.vanginderachter.be/ 1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d. -- Unknown From michael at masuran.org Fri Apr 20 09:30:29 2007 From: michael at masuran.org (Michael Anckaert) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:30:29 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704191059v55a4d277qb0d70d2a8c55201a@mail.gmail.com> References: <1176837195.28153.199.camel@localhost> <36700.213.177.69.226.1176973952.squirrel@panel.lost-oasis.net> <6d731d6e0704190308u544822bcu2952aadffbaa1e63@mail.gmail.com> <200704191915.29716.laurent.pirotte@skynet.be> <6d731d6e0704191059v55a4d277qb0d70d2a8c55201a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46287A25.4090200@masuran.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mark Van den Borre schreef: > Hi Laurent, > > 2007/4/19, Laurent Pirotte : >> Hi Mark, >> >> I have requested a bid for 1000 pressed CDs and the price is about 0,919? per >> CD (with a face printed in 4 coulours & a cardboard sleeve also printed in 4 >> colours on both faces). At Bxlug we find this price nice but ... we don't >> need 1000CDs and if we decrease the number of order CDs the price ... >> increase drastically (1000 CDs is the minimum to order when CDs >> are "pressed") >> >> On the other hand, if we order more than 1000 CDs the price continue to >> decrease (0,645?/pc for 2000pc, 0,480?/pc for 3000pc, ...) >> >> I think that other LUG are interested by the distribution of Feisty CDs and >> that there is still some event in the calendar for the next 6 month. Is it >> not possible to work together and share the cost of these pressed CDs ? > This is a discussion we're not out of yet. First step is a localised > iso. Even if I find this highly interesting, I'm not going to do that > myself, so someone else will have to stand up. > >> I agree that it's beeter to offer them but it's seems more realistic to ask 1? >> per CD to cover our cost. > I was only referrring to the cd's we receive for free from Canonical. > >> Otherwise we have to find a sponsor. But I think >> it's important to distribute these live CDs. A lot of people don't understand >> what an ISO file is and will never test Ubuntu if they must build the CD >> themselve. > Agreed. > > Mark Well I have a lonely weekend ahead of me so I'll give it a go. I haven't given it much thought but normally it should just be a matter of changing the default languagepack to nl/fr, making adjustments to the boot screens and the installer. But I can only modify the existing ISO, I can't build a new one because my internet connection is pretty sucky for the moment. If anyone wants to help out feel free :) Kind regards, Michael Anckaert http://www.masuran.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGKHolQdBJEudXe6ERAvbPAJ0QWjh5hxoLPywhee4978IFsebLHwCfXMaE +QsaNAFvOIjZ1MrH0WvX2/k= =Ih5w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 20 10:36:09 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:36:09 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: <1177054577.7620.47.camel@localhost> References: <77d1ad090704191201s4c342616u264ffb3b6ecc5065@mail.gmail.com> <1177014244.28153.272.camel@localhost> <77d1ad090704191328r41fe2938vc803353bde0ca0c2@mail.gmail.com> <4074.192.168.1.19.1177016348.squirrel@192.168.1.19> <4e46f0fd0704200008h62e82be3vc1da3fae0b331b84@mail.gmail.com> <1177054577.7620.47.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177061770.28153.279.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 20-04-2007 om 09:36 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Serge van Ginderachter: > I'd opt for 1 version with English, French, Dutch and German and a > simple language choice menu at bootup. That's what I thought too. -- Jan Claeys From mvdborre at gmail.com Fri Apr 20 10:41:53 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:41:53 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Thank you, Indymedia... Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704200241r1bb821f9uafed6c68e41a6af6@mail.gmail.com> ... for the attention you give to the new Ubuntu release at the top of your front page. Good luck with the install party on sunday! http://www.indymedia.be/en/node/8425 Mark ubuntu-be.org -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 20 10:56:10 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:56:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <4627D492.6010906@171.be> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> <4627D492.6010906@171.be> Message-ID: <1177062970.28153.286.camel@localhost> Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 22:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Patrick Coeman: > Jan Claeys schreef: > > Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 22:13 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Patrick > > Coeman: > >> After a apt-get upgrade everything works fine... > > > > How did you upgrade the first time? > > > Via update-manager -c -d. '-d' or '--devel-release' stands for "development version"... You're lucky that development of the next Ubuntu version hasn't been started yet and you got those errors, or you would have been upgraded to Gutsy Gibbon now. ;-) > De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet > zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. Da's nogal contradictorisch met het mailen naar een publieke mailing list hoor... :) -- Jan Claeys From amedee at amedee.be Fri Apr 20 11:15:07 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:15:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <1177062970.28153.286.camel@localhost> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> <4627D492.6010906@171.be> <1177062970.28153.286.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <26344.193.121.250.194.1177064107.squirrel@amedee.be> On Fri, April 20, 2007 11:56, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 22:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Patrick > Coeman: >> De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet >> zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. > > Da's nogal contradictorisch met het mailen naar een publieke mailing > list hoor... :) Tussen u en _mij_ -- Amedee From patrick.coeman at 171.be Fri Apr 20 11:37:51 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:37:51 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <1177062970.28153.286.camel@localhost> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> <4627D492.6010906@171.be> <1177062970.28153.286.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <462897FF.9070904@171.be> Jan Claeys schreef: >> Via update-manager -c -d. > > '-d' or '--devel-release' stands for "development version"... > > You're lucky that development of the next Ubuntu version hasn't been > started yet and you got those errors, or you would have been upgraded to > Gutsy Gibbon now. ;-) Shit, does this mean that I have to work longer with these old feisty version ??? :-D Thanks for your advice and time... >> De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet >> zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. > > Da's nogal contradictorisch met het mailen naar een publieke mailing > list hoor... :) Kweetet maar tis met sigs altijd 'alles of niets'... -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From patrick.coeman at 171.be Fri Apr 20 11:39:04 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:39:04 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <26344.193.121.250.194.1177064107.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> <4627D492.6010906@171.be> <1177062970.28153.286.camel@localhost> <26344.193.121.250.194.1177064107.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <46289848.10107@171.be> Ik hou niet van mij. Amedee Van Gasse schreef: > On Fri, April 20, 2007 11:56, Jan Claeys wrote: >> Op donderdag 19-04-2007 om 22:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Patrick >> Coeman: > >>> De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet >>> zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. >> Da's nogal contradictorisch met het mailen naar een publieke mailing >> list hoor... :) > > Tussen u en _mij_ > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 20 12:03:30 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:03:30 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Yeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss ! In-Reply-To: <462897FF.9070904@171.be> References: <77d1ad090704190803q7c097626rf89b674c897cb39c@mail.gmail.com> <4627A6CB.30205@171.be> <4627A776.6010302@UGent.be> <4627A95A.2060400@171.be> <1177004585.19826.1.camel@rh-mobile> <4627CD56.5030007@171.be> <1177014009.28153.267.camel@localhost> <4627D492.6010906@171.be> <1177062970.28153.286.camel@localhost> <462897FF.9070904@171.be> Message-ID: <1177067010.28153.295.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 20-04-2007 om 12:37 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Patrick Coeman: > > >> De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet > >> zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. > > > > Da's nogal contradictorisch met het mailen naar een publieke mailing > > list hoor... :) > > Kweetet maar tis met sigs altijd 'alles of niets'... Ik heb nochtans wel meerdere sigs & sig-varianten hoor... ;-) -- Jan Claeys From baan135 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 20 20:39:26 2007 From: baan135 at hotmail.com (Edgar Ruhnke) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:39:26 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version Message-ID: kan mij iemand zeggen hoe ik mij uit de mailingslijst kan verwijderen? ben het al de week aan het probeeren maar de links werken niet!!! bedankt bij voorbaat. mvg, Edgar Ruhnke > From: ubuntu at janc.be> To: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:36:09 +0200> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version> > Op vrijdag 20-04-2007 om 09:36 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Serge van> Ginderachter:> > I'd opt for 1 version with English, French, Dutch and German and a> > simple language choice menu at bootup. > > That's what I thought too.> > > -- > Jan Claeys> > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com> > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at:> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be _________________________________________________________________ Ontdek Windows Live Hotmail, het ultieme online mailprogramma! http://get.live.com/mail/overview -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070420/cb6e995e/attachment.htm From roelhuybrechts at skynet.be Fri Apr 20 20:42:03 2007 From: roelhuybrechts at skynet.be (Roel Huybrechts) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:42:03 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1177098123.6014.0.camel@rh-mobile> U kan zich onderaan deze webpagina uitschrijven: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 21:39 +0200, Edgar Ruhnke wrote: > kan mij iemand zeggen hoe ik mij uit de mailingslijst kan verwijderen? > ben het al de week aan het probeeren maar de links werken niet!!! > bedankt bij voorbaat. > mvg, > Edgar Ruhnke > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > From: ubuntu at janc.be > > To: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:36:09 +0200 > > Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version > > > > Op vrijdag 20-04-2007 om 09:36 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Serge > van > > Ginderachter: > > > I'd opt for 1 version with English, French, Dutch and German and a > > > simple language choice menu at bootup. > > > > That's what I thought too. > > > > > > -- > > Jan Claeys > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options > at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > het ultieme online mailprogramma! Ontdek Windows Live Hotmail, -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070420/5c70abb0/attachment.pgp From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 20 21:12:55 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:12:55 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Localized Version In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1177099975.12818.44.camel@localhost> Hallo, Ik ben de list-admin. Op vrijdag 20-04-2007 om 21:39 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Edgar Ruhnke: > kan mij iemand zeggen hoe ik mij uit de mailingslijst kan verwijderen? > ben het al de week aan het probeeren maar de links werken niet!!! > bedankt bij voorbaat. Welke links heb je geprobeerd dan? -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 20 22:32:39 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:32:39 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] The Funky Feisty Competition... Message-ID: <1177104760.12818.48.camel@localhost> To celebrate the incredible release of Ubuntu 7.04 The Feisty Fawn, we are challenging the also incredible worldwide Ubuntu community to take part in an...incredible competition! The competition is simple - take a picture of yourself or your group (LoCo team, LUG, family, class or any other group) celebrating the release of Feisty in an interesting way. Not only can you get your incredible photos online, but you can also win some prizes too! -- Jan Claeys From info at linuxinstallaties.be Sat Apr 21 17:00:05 2007 From: info at linuxinstallaties.be (Linuxinstallaties.be) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:00:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu supportpunten Message-ID: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> Hallo ubuntuvrienden, Zou het niet beter zijn dat er ubuntu cd's kunnen afgehaalt worden in winkels i.p.v. bij de sommige mensen thuis? Vb. hier is het een computerwinkel en krijg ik altijd te horen dat ze al iemand anders proberen te contacteren hebben om een gratis ubuntu cd te kunnen afhalen, voordat ze bij mij terecht gekomen zijn. De mensen vinden het goed als ze op vaste openingsuren altijd een ubuntu cd kunnen afhalen. Hier komen ze soms van ver om een cd'ke af te halen. Met Vriendelijke groeten, Frederik Dewanckele Linuxinstallaties.be www.linuxinstallaties.be uw computerwinkel voor zowel windows als linux. Installeren van linux op uw pc, herstellingen van linux-computers. Nieuwe linux-laptops, linux-computers, kortom alles die te maken heeft met linux. Kom vandaag nog om uw gratis ubuntu linux installatie cd's. From paul at cobbaut.be Sat Apr 21 17:38:43 2007 From: paul at cobbaut.be (Paul Cobbaut) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:38:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu supportpunten In-Reply-To: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> References: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> Message-ID: <462A3E13.3090803@cobbaut.be> Linuxinstallaties.be wrote: > Hallo ubuntuvrienden, > > Zou het niet beter zijn dat er ubuntu cd's kunnen afgehaalt worden in > winkels i.p.v. bij de sommige mensen thuis? Nog beter is beide! Niets houdt je tegen om zelf ook een reeks Ubuntu CD's te bestellen of branden om in je winkel te leggen. Ik heb er hier thuis nog maar twee als supportpoint weggegeven, maar al honderden op andere gelegenheden... groetjes, paul -- blog http://cobbaut.blogspot.com CV http://www.cobbaut.be/cobbaut.php?blad=cv asiel http://www.dierenasieltienen.be From dirk.tas at telenet.be Sat Apr 21 17:55:58 2007 From: dirk.tas at telenet.be (Dirk Tas) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:55:58 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu supportpunten In-Reply-To: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> References: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> Message-ID: <1177174559.5624.5.camel@tungsten> Frederik, Misschien zijn er niet veel supportpunten in je buurt. Dirk Op zaterdag 21-04-2007 om 18:00 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Linuxinstallaties.be: > Hallo ubuntuvrienden, > > Zou het niet beter zijn dat er ubuntu cd's kunnen afgehaalt worden in > winkels i.p.v. bij de sommige mensen thuis? > > Vb. hier is het een computerwinkel en krijg ik altijd te horen dat ze al > iemand anders proberen te contacteren hebben om een gratis ubuntu cd te > kunnen afhalen, voordat ze bij mij terecht gekomen zijn. > > De mensen vinden het goed als ze op vaste openingsuren altijd een ubuntu > cd kunnen afhalen. Hier komen ze soms van ver om een cd'ke af te halen. > > > Met Vriendelijke groeten, > > Frederik Dewanckele > Linuxinstallaties.be > > www.linuxinstallaties.be uw computerwinkel voor zowel windows als linux. > Installeren van linux op uw pc, herstellingen van linux-computers. > Nieuwe linux-laptops, linux-computers, > kortom alles die te maken heeft met linux. > > Kom vandaag nog om uw gratis ubuntu linux installatie cd's. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070421/ca8cd309/attachment.htm From patrick.coeman at 171.be Sat Apr 21 17:59:19 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:59:19 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu supportpunten In-Reply-To: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> References: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> Message-ID: <462A42E7.4010000@171.be> Bij het uitkomen van 6.06 heb ik dat geprobeerd. Een 10-tal winkels bezocht om daar CD's achter te laten met de gegevens van de site en mijn contact nummer. Nergens gelukt. 1. "Ik moet nog windows verkopen hoor". 2. "Jaja en als een installatie mislukt kan ik het in garantie oplossen zeker...". Waren de meest gebruikte tegenargumenten. Computerboeren (ik bedoel de dozenverzetters die moeten opboxen tegen de plaatselijke GB, Aldi of Mediamarkt hebben geen intresse. Misschiien is dat enkel een stedelijk probleem... Linuxinstallaties.be schreef: > Hallo ubuntuvrienden, > > Zou het niet beter zijn dat er ubuntu cd's kunnen afgehaalt worden in > winkels i.p.v. bij de sommige mensen thuis? > > Vb. hier is het een computerwinkel en krijg ik altijd te horen dat ze al > iemand anders proberen te contacteren hebben om een gratis ubuntu cd te > kunnen afhalen, voordat ze bij mij terecht gekomen zijn. > > De mensen vinden het goed als ze op vaste openingsuren altijd een ubuntu > cd kunnen afhalen. Hier komen ze soms van ver om een cd'ke af te halen. > > > Met Vriendelijke groeten, > > Frederik Dewanckele > Linuxinstallaties.be > > www.linuxinstallaties.be uw computerwinkel voor zowel windows als linux. > Installeren van linux op uw pc, herstellingen van linux-computers. > Nieuwe linux-laptops, linux-computers, > kortom alles die te maken heeft met linux. > > Kom vandaag nog om uw gratis ubuntu linux installatie cd's. > > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From marien.bert at telenet.be Sat Apr 21 18:24:32 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:24:32 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie Message-ID: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> Hi, I'm new at Ubuntu-be. I'm Bert, live in Heist-op-den-Berg, am 48 years of age, unemployed. Me, I am, what I call myself: a fiddler on the computer. I'm not a programmer, not a hacker and... even not even an IT specialist. I just like to tweak and "fiddle" with the machine. As for Ubuntu (or even Linux for that matter) is concerned: I'm a newbie as well. I installed Edgy some 6 weeks ago, installed the Feisty Fawn beta etc... I've been looking around at the forums, looking around at the OS, I'm trying to read up on Linux and Ubuntu (books ordered, not received yet). So, I'm a little bit busy with learning to find my ways in Ubuntu (and/or Linux). I have two computers: a desktop computer which has Ubuntu Feisty Fawn installed in dual boot with WinXP, and a Dell laptop, which has WinXP installed. My intentions are to change all OSs to Linux distributions as soon as my knowledge of Linux systems is satisfying enough to make the switch, and as soon as I converted my files to be readable in Linux. The reason why I want to do so: - I need a computer that does what I want; - I like experimenting, testing, tweaking... "fiddling". - Microsoft's prices turn my off. So, here I am. Kind regards, Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070421/ea6276f9/attachment.htm From mailstijn at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 19:34:31 2007 From: mailstijn at gmail.com (Stijn Verslycken) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:34:31 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... Message-ID: Hello, Yesterday I decided to start playing with Ubuntu Feisty. Edgy was installed on my system, but I wanted to see and use the installer, so I decided this time not to use the dist-upgrade functionality and perform a clean install. I own a Dell Inspiron 6400 (in the States known as E1505), which is quite common and sold all around the world. This laptop has a Core 2 Duo T7200 cpu, 2GB RAM, a 160GB Sata disk, ipw3945abg wireless nic, broadcom lan nic, ...and an ATI Mobilty Radeon X1400... I started off by booting a Feisty Live cd. The kernel loaded, the fancy Ubuntu boot screen showed up and after a short while all activity stopped and my numlock/capslock/... leds started blinking: a kernel panic had occurred... Really cool :( I killed my system, rebooted into Edgy and burnt the alternate cd for attempt 2. The alternate installer successfully completed the installation, although I got X related questions during the installation about what screen resolution I wanted to use. This is something I had never seen before in any installation of Ubuntu or Debian... Once the installation was completed I booted the system and the first thing I saw was a Linux kind of a BSOD, asking me whether I wanted to see the X debugging output or not. Then I was confronted with an extremely user friendly login prompt... I tried the "dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" routine, in order to get at least X up and running in some basic mode, but whatever I tried (vesa, ati,...) with very very basic settings didn't work at all. The startx debugging info kept complaining about a screen that could not be found... I ended up downloading and installing the latest official proprietary driver from the ATI-website, building and installing my stuff from their run-file. Then I was able to log in graphically. Even though I really hate to be confronted with these kinds of problems, I'm generally able to solve these things, because I've been using Linux on the desktop for quite some years now (since 2002) and because I'm into IT in general. Ubuntu, Ubuntu-be and many more organizations want to promote Linux on the desktop. Average Joe should be able to install and work with Linux on his own pc, without a hassle. Unfortunately, this is not what I experience... So it's getting much harder for me to recommend Ubuntu to any average computer user, since they may experience the same horrible stuff as me, but they don't know what to do at all... Personally I still support the goals of Ubuntu, I see the progress they make, I see their goals and I like the fact that their software is always pretty much up-to-date...but I can't stand the big blunders they make: a couple of months ago the big X-server breaking update that got released, now this X problems and kernel panics when installing (or using the live-cd),... I just wondered how you as an Ubuntu-promoting organization deal with these kinds of issues? -- Stijn "Slike" Verslycken mailstijn at gmail.com From decirc at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 19:45:04 2007 From: decirc at gmail.com (Cedric Janssens) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:45:04 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <77d1ad090704211145r5b93e9bbkb7e6c8f9b12434e3@mail.gmail.com> Recurrent problem... proprietary driver... Next computer you'll buy, make a better choice for your graphic card. That's what I make now. Regards Cedric 2007/4/21, Stijn Verslycken : > Hello, > > Yesterday I decided to start playing with Ubuntu Feisty. Edgy was > installed on my system, but I wanted to see and use the installer, so > I decided this time not to use the dist-upgrade functionality and > perform a clean install. > > I own a Dell Inspiron 6400 (in the States known as E1505), which is > quite common and sold all around the world. This laptop has a Core 2 > Duo T7200 cpu, 2GB RAM, a 160GB Sata disk, ipw3945abg wireless nic, > broadcom lan nic, ...and an ATI Mobilty Radeon X1400... > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070421/f21d8903/attachment.htm From mailstijn at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 20:05:40 2007 From: mailstijn at gmail.com (Stijn Verslycken) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:05:40 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: <77d1ad090704211145r5b93e9bbkb7e6c8f9b12434e3@mail.gmail.com> References: <77d1ad090704211145r5b93e9bbkb7e6c8f9b12434e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 4/21/07, Cedric Janssens wrote: > Recurrent problem... proprietary driver... > Next computer you'll buy, make a better choice for your graphic card. Dell didn't really give me any option. It was a X1300 or X1400... I'm not the only one with an ATI graphics card of that generation... It should simply work, at least in some basic mode, like it did before Feisty and like it does with all other distro's I've had on this machine so far. An average computer user often doesn't even realize what a graphics adapter really is or does, not to mention naming the brand or type of it. I don't have any problems with using proprietary drivers... I'm not a Stallman-like freedom extremist, and I prefer decent performance over a less performing but free driver. Slike -- Stijn "Slike" Verslycken mailstijn at gmail.com From rr at lilit.be Sat Apr 21 21:09:48 2007 From: rr at lilit.be (snulkid) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:09:48 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: <77d1ad090704211145r5b93e9bbkb7e6c8f9b12434e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704212209.48861.rr@lilit.be> Le samedi 21 avril 2007 21:05, Stijn Verslycken a ?crit?: > I'm not the only one with an ATI graphics card of that > generation... It should simply work, at least in some basic mode, > like it did before Feisty and like it does with all other distro's > I've had on this machine so far. I would be honoured to be described as a "Stallman-like freedom extremist" but, apart from that, I totally agree with you. Ubuntu has decided to target Average Joe (and, by the way, that was a key point in Ploum's launching talk at Fosdem 2006 : to convert Windows users, not Linux users). So first it should... just work. Such critics would be irrelevant if, as you mentioned, other distros were not making a better job. Our LUG "Mandriva guru" proudly announced the release of Mandriva 2007 Spring, saying he was now "ready for our next LIP". So, Ubunteros, beware of competition! But to end up up in a more positive way, I have to say that almost all people I know agree on Ubuntu leadership in one field : its fantastic users community, which is you, ladies and gentlemen. Have a nice Sunday meeting the real or digital fawns ;-) -- snulkid From mvdborre at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 21:18:45 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:18:45 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu supportpunten In-Reply-To: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> References: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704211318o6b3b74fbk445a41cd54c3b5ad@mail.gmail.com> Rough EN summary of an originally NL conversation "Wouldn't it be better to have shops distribute the ubuntu cd's instead of people at home?" Both are complimentary. "In the shop here, I get people who have already tried contacting other support points before." This is an issue of quality control. Op 21-04-07 heeft Linuxinstallaties.be het volgende geschreven: > Hallo ubuntuvrienden, > > Zou het niet beter zijn dat er ubuntu cd's kunnen afgehaalt worden in > winkels i.p.v. bij de sommige mensen thuis? Beide vullen elkaar aan. Het verhaal van een vrijwilliger die ubuntu zo boeiend vindt dat hij de Blijde Boodschap (TM) wil verkondigen spreekt soms veel meer aan dan een winkel en vice versa. > Vb. hier is het een computerwinkel en krijg ik altijd te horen dat ze al > iemand anders proberen te contacteren hebben om een gratis ubuntu cd te > kunnen afhalen, voordat ze bij mij terecht gekomen zijn. Kwaliteitscontrole is zeker iets waaraan we moeten denken. > De mensen vinden het goed als ze op vaste openingsuren altijd een ubuntu > cd kunnen afhalen. Hier komen ze soms van ver om een cd'ke af te halen. Zeer goede zaak. Groeten, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From mvdborre at gmail.com Sat Apr 21 21:52:18 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:52:18 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704211352l921fa17w7cc1290c0246758f@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/21, Stijn Verslycken : > Hello, Hi, > Yesterday I decided to start playing with Ubuntu Feisty. [...](bad experience history scrapped) > I just wondered how you as an Ubuntu-promoting organization deal with > these kinds of issues? As a person, I buy high quality hardware with manufacturer supported free drivers whenever possible. I use 6.06 LTS on production systems, and As a free software evangelist, I try to be very careful. If the convert can't survive without the support of a geek, he's potentially lost. I create realistic expectations in potential converts. I never promote dual boot, wine or other things that potentially require more profound technical knowledge than you can expect from an end user. I show good practices. I seduce potential converts to taste a little bit of freedom with minimal investment. Installing Ubuntu on a somewhat aging big brand computer is really a good example. It doesn't cost a lot, if anything, and on the technical side, with mostly well supported Intel hardware, an almost 100% success rate. Having said that, shipping a release with a bug as critical as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/89853 known for over a month before release is not good practice. I will definitely make this clear to my contacts at Canonical. Sincerely, Mark ubuntu-be.org -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From marc.coevoet at fulladsl.be Sun Apr 22 07:01:10 2007 From: marc.coevoet at fulladsl.be (Marc Coevoet) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:01:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu supportpunten In-Reply-To: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> References: <462A3505.2030802@linuxinstallaties.be> Message-ID: <462AFA26.8050206@fulladsl.be> Linuxinstallaties.be schreef: > Hallo ubuntuvrienden, > > Zou het niet beter zijn dat er ubuntu cd's kunnen afgehaalt worden in > winkels i.p.v. bij de sommige mensen thuis? > > Vb. hier is het een computerwinkel en krijg ik altijd te horen dat ze al > iemand anders proberen te contacteren hebben om een gratis ubuntu cd te > kunnen afhalen, voordat ze bij mij terecht gekomen zijn. > Ze mogen ze ook in de kerk leggen voor mij. Je moet je maar opgeven als demopunt op de site. Hopelijk zijn het daar geen dolgedraaide markt- en cultuurideologen die overal commercie inzien.. Zet er wel niet bij dat je vrijwilliger wordt, of ik kom ook af .. MARc From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 08:30:56 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:30:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <10729bd00704220030h508fe527jfa0b033658e1d9d3@mail.gmail.com> Hi everybody, I wont be able to join you today, I almost can't move my neck :( Say Hi to Bambi from me ... Phil 2007/4/16, Alexandre Ficelle : > > Hello Ubuntu friends! > > The newest release of Ubuntu will be out in a couple of days. As you > probably know, the mascot of this new version is the Feisty Fawn. We at > Ubuntu-be.org wanted to do something a bit out of the ordinary to > celebrate this event. > > To stay in the spirit of this release, we decided to go meet some > real deers, and hopefully fawns as well! Join us on Sunday April 22, > 2007 at 14:30 in the nature park in La Reid. > > To get there, hop aboard the minivan traveling across Belgium. All > practical details can be found on the wiki. Please add your name there > too if you plan on coming! > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/meet_the_fawn > > Spread the word around! Hoping to see you all there... > > Sincerely, > > Alexandre Laurent > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/7f8914e8/attachment.htm From 03taxi at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 09:10:26 2007 From: 03taxi at gmail.com (Michel Daggelinckx) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:10:26 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <462B1872.8090900@gmail.com> Bert Mari?n schreef: > Hi, > > I'm new at Ubuntu-be. > > I'm Bert, live in Heist-op-den-Berg, am 48 years of age, unemployed. > > Me, I am, what I call myself: a fiddler on the computer. I'm not a > programmer, not a hacker and... even not even an IT specialist. I just > like to tweak and "fiddle" with the machine. > > As for Ubuntu (or even Linux for that matter) is concerned: I'm a > newbie as well. I installed Edgy some 6 weeks ago, installed the > Feisty Fawn beta etc... > > I've been looking around at the forums, looking around at the OS, I'm > trying to read up on Linux and Ubuntu (books ordered, not received > yet). So, I'm a little bit busy with learning to find my ways in > Ubuntu (and/or Linux). > > I have two computers: a desktop computer which has Ubuntu Feisty Fawn > installed in dual boot with WinXP, and a Dell laptop, which has WinXP > installed. My intentions are to change all OSs to Linux distributions > as soon as my knowledge of Linux systems is satisfying enough to make > the switch, and as soon as I converted my files to be readable in Linux. > > The reason why I want to do so: > - I need a computer that does what I want; > - I like experimenting, testing, tweaking... "fiddling". > - Microsoft's prices turn my off. > > So, here I am. > > Kind regards, > > Bert. Welcome to the list Bert For support you can alwais go to www.ubuntu-nl.org forums and mailinglist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/90ef3e51/attachment.htm From guy.drx at skynet.be Sun Apr 22 10:28:21 2007 From: guy.drx at skynet.be (Guy Dierickx) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:28:21 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> Message-ID: Beste Bert, Ik denk dat u wel het Nederlands verstaat. Ikzelf ben een newbie in Ubuntu. Ik ben 75 jaar en leef in De Pinte bij Gent. Ben altijd gewoon aan MS Windows geweest. Ik ben in de jaren 1980 met DOS begonnen. Steeds alle evoluties meegemaakt en altijd getracht om mee te zijn. Ik heb nog les in informatica gegeven in het MO maar ben van huis uit leraar wiskunde. Nu als gepensioneerde, kan en wil ik mij de duurdere software niet meer aanschaffen. Ik werk meestal in Windows XP (UK en NL versies); Uit nieuwsgierigheid heb ik ook nu Ubuntu op ??n van mijn pc?s staan, naast Win XP. Het beviel me wel, maar de linuxcommando?s zijn voor mij ongewoon en het vlot niet zo. Het gebruik via de grafische interfaces is zeker doenbaar. Het viel me echter op dat in er maar niet in luk draadloos in mijn netwerk te komen. Er zijn dus wel problemen met Linux. Zolang dit niet vloeiender is, kan Linux en ook Ubuntu niet volledig doorbreken. Het zal enkel bij een kleine kring ?specialisten? doordringen. Nu, het kan veranderen. Maar zolang de ?handel? er niets kan aan verdienen, zie ik het niet zitten. Ik ben benieuwd naar uw en anderen hun mening. Kind Regards, Guy Dierickx guy.drx at skynet.be Van: ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] Namens Bert Mari?n Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:25 Aan: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie Hi, I'm new at Ubuntu-be. I'm Bert, live in Heist-op-den-Berg, am 48 years of age, unemployed. Me, I am, what I call myself: a fiddler on the computer. I'm not a programmer, not a hacker and... even not even an IT specialist. I just like to tweak and "fiddle" with the machine. As for Ubuntu (or even Linux for that matter) is concerned: I'm a newbie as well. I installed Edgy some 6 weeks ago, installed the Feisty Fawn beta etc... I've been looking around at the forums, looking around at the OS, I'm trying to read up on Linux and Ubuntu (books ordered, not received yet). So, I'm a little bit busy with learning to find my ways in Ubuntu (and/or Linux). I have two computers: a desktop computer which has Ubuntu Feisty Fawn installed in dual boot with WinXP, and a Dell laptop, which has WinXP installed. My intentions are to change all OSs to Linux distributions as soon as my knowledge of Linux systems is satisfying enough to make the switch, and as soon as I converted my files to be readable in Linux. The reason why I want to do so: - I need a computer that does what I want; - I like experimenting, testing, tweaking... "fiddling". - Microsoft's prices turn my off. So, here I am. Kind regards, Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/6f6459bc/attachment.htm From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 12:17:41 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:17:41 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> Beste, Ja, op de forums is nogal wat afgekankerd over de draadloze verbinding en de (niet)herkenning van de disks. Zelf hab ik dat opgelost met: 1. De Netwerk Manager de?nstalleren; 2. Installeren van Wifi-radar en daarmee het netwerk instellen. Voor het herkennen van de disks: 1. Controlleer /etcfstab en /etc/mtab en pas ze zo nodig aan. 2. Gebruik bij voorkeur de UUID om de disks te mounten, zeker voor de NTFS partities Verder kan ik mensen met deze problemen alleen maar naar de forums verwijzen. Met vriendelijke groet, Bert. On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 11:28 +0200, Guy Dierickx wrote: > Beste Bert, > > Ik denk dat u wel het Nederlands verstaat. > > Ikzelf ben een newbie in Ubuntu. Ik ben 75 jaar en leef in De Pinte > bij Gent. Ben altijd gewoon aan MS Windows geweest. Ik ben in de jaren > 1980 met DOS begonnen. Steeds alle evoluties meegemaakt en altijd > getracht om mee te zijn. Ik heb nog les in informatica gegeven in het > MO maar ben van huis uit leraar wiskunde. Nu als gepensioneerde, kan > en wil ik mij de duurdere software niet meer aanschaffen. Ik werk > meestal in Windows XP (UK en NL versies); Uit nieuwsgierigheid heb ik > ook nu Ubuntu op ??n van mijn pc?s staan, naast Win XP. Het beviel > me wel, maar de linuxcommando?s zijn voor mij ongewoon en het vlot > niet zo. Het gebruik via de grafische interfaces is zeker doenbaar. > Het viel me echter op dat in er maar niet in luk draadloos in mijn > netwerk te komen. Er zijn dus wel problemen met Linux. Zolang dit niet > vloeiender is, kan Linux en ook Ubuntu niet volledig doorbreken. Het > zal enkel bij een kleine kring ?specialisten? doordringen. Nu, het kan > veranderen. Maar zolang de ?handel? er niets kan aan verdienen, zie ik > het niet zitten. Ik ben benieuwd naar uw en anderen hun mening. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Guy Dierickx > > guy.drx at skynet.be > > > > > Van:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] NamensBert Mari?n > Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:25 > Aan: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie > > > > > > Hi, > > I'm new at Ubuntu-be. > > I'm Bert, live in Heist-op-den-Berg, am 48 years of age, unemployed. > > Me, I am, what I call myself: a fiddler on the computer. I'm not a > programmer, not a hacker and... even not even an IT specialist. I just > like to tweak and "fiddle" with the machine. > > As for Ubuntu (or even Linux for that matter) is concerned: I'm a > newbie as well. I installed Edgy some 6 weeks ago, installed the > Feisty Fawn beta etc... > > I've been looking around at the forums, looking around at the OS, I'm > trying to read up on Linux and Ubuntu (books ordered, not received > yet). So, I'm a little bit busy with learning to find my ways in > Ubuntu (and/or Linux). > > I have two computers: a desktop computer which has Ubuntu Feisty Fawn > installed in dual boot with WinXP, and a Dell laptop, which has WinXP > installed. My intentions are to change all OSs to Linux distributions > as soon as my knowledge of Linux systems is satisfying enough to make > the switch, and as soon as I converted my files to be readable in > Linux. > > The reason why I want to do so: > - I need a computer that does what I want; > - I like experimenting, testing, tweaking... "fiddling". > - Microsoft's prices turn my off. > > So, here I am. > > Kind regards, > > Bert. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/94872371/attachment.htm From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 12:23:17 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:23:17 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177240997.19265.8.camel@bavo> Beste, Correctie! In mijn vorige mail stond een foutje: /etcfstab moet zijn /etc/fstab Sorry. Bert. On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 11:28 +0200, Guy Dierickx wrote: > Beste Bert, > > Ik denk dat u wel het Nederlands verstaat. > > Ikzelf ben een newbie in Ubuntu. Ik ben 75 jaar en leef in De Pinte > bij Gent. Ben altijd gewoon aan MS Windows geweest. Ik ben in de jaren > 1980 met DOS begonnen. Steeds alle evoluties meegemaakt en altijd > getracht om mee te zijn. Ik heb nog les in informatica gegeven in het > MO maar ben van huis uit leraar wiskunde. Nu als gepensioneerde, kan > en wil ik mij de duurdere software niet meer aanschaffen. Ik werk > meestal in Windows XP (UK en NL versies); Uit nieuwsgierigheid heb ik > ook nu Ubuntu op ??n van mijn pc?s staan, naast Win XP. Het beviel > me wel, maar de linuxcommando?s zijn voor mij ongewoon en het vlot > niet zo. Het gebruik via de grafische interfaces is zeker doenbaar. > Het viel me echter op dat in er maar niet in luk draadloos in mijn > netwerk te komen. Er zijn dus wel problemen met Linux. Zolang dit niet > vloeiender is, kan Linux en ook Ubuntu niet volledig doorbreken. Het > zal enkel bij een kleine kring ?specialisten? doordringen. Nu, het kan > veranderen. Maar zolang de ?handel? er niets kan aan verdienen, zie ik > het niet zitten. Ik ben benieuwd naar uw en anderen hun mening. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Guy Dierickx > > guy.drx at skynet.be > > > > > Van:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-be-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] NamensBert Mari?n > Verzonden: zaterdag 21 april 2007 19:25 > Aan: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie > > > > > > Hi, > > I'm new at Ubuntu-be. > > I'm Bert, live in Heist-op-den-Berg, am 48 years of age, unemployed. > > Me, I am, what I call myself: a fiddler on the computer. I'm not a > programmer, not a hacker and... even not even an IT specialist. I just > like to tweak and "fiddle" with the machine. > > As for Ubuntu (or even Linux for that matter) is concerned: I'm a > newbie as well. I installed Edgy some 6 weeks ago, installed the > Feisty Fawn beta etc... > > I've been looking around at the forums, looking around at the OS, I'm > trying to read up on Linux and Ubuntu (books ordered, not received > yet). So, I'm a little bit busy with learning to find my ways in > Ubuntu (and/or Linux). > > I have two computers: a desktop computer which has Ubuntu Feisty Fawn > installed in dual boot with WinXP, and a Dell laptop, which has WinXP > installed. My intentions are to change all OSs to Linux distributions > as soon as my knowledge of Linux systems is satisfying enough to make > the switch, and as soon as I converted my files to be readable in > Linux. > > The reason why I want to do so: > - I need a computer that does what I want; > - I like experimenting, testing, tweaking... "fiddling". > - Microsoft's prices turn my off. > > So, here I am. > > Kind regards, > > Bert. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/90dc85ea/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 14:10:10 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:10:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 13:17 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > Ja, op de forums is nogal wat afgekankerd over de draadloze verbinding > en de (niet)herkenning van de disks. > Zelf hab ik dat opgelost met: > 1. De Netwerk Manager de?nstalleren; > 2. Installeren van Wifi-radar en daarmee het netwerk instellen. Wifi-radar is wel niet zo interessant als je een laptop hebt (het verbruikt nogal wat stroom, door de manier waarop het werkt). > Voor het herkennen van de disks: > 1. Controlleer /etcfstab en /etc/mtab en pas ze zo nodig aan. Die /etc/mtab aanpassen heeft geen zin. > 2. Gebruik bij voorkeur de UUID om de disks te mounten, zeker voor de > NTFS partities Klopt, maar de installer en de update-manager doen dat normaal zelf voor je. > Verder kan ik mensen met deze problemen alleen maar naar de forums > verwijzen. En hopelijk dient iedereen met problemen ook bug-rapporten in, anders worden ze nooit opgelost... PS: voor Nederlandstalige support-vragen is het beter de ubuntu-nl mailing list te gebruiken. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 14:11:13 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:11:13 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <462B4CD2.9000104@gmail.com> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <462B4CD2.9000104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177247473.2123.14.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 13:53 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Michel Daggelinckx: > Draadloos internet onder Ubuntu is zowat een kip en ei probleem. > > De nodige tools om uw draadloos netwerk te bedienen moeten gedownload > worden met synaptic of een gelijkaardige tool. In Feisty zit de nodige software standaard er al bij hoor...? -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 14:22:44 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:22:44 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177248164.2123.26.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 11:28 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Guy Dierickx: > Het viel me echter op dat in er maar niet in luk draadloos in mijn > netwerk te komen. Er zijn dus wel problemen met Linux. Onder WinXP werkt dat ook vaak enkel met de drivers die de fabrikant meelevert op een CD of zo, alleen leveren de meeste fabrikanten geen drivers mee voor linux, en moeten de linux-programmeurs dus zelf drivers maken. Jammer genoeg willen veel fabrikanten zelfs niet eens de nodige informatie vrijgeven (eventueel onder een geheimhoudingscontract) om die drivers te kunnen maken (ook al kost dat die firma's geen cent!). > Zolang dit niet vloeiender is, kan Linux en ook Ubuntu niet volledig > doorbreken. Het zal enkel bij een kleine kring ?specialisten? > doordringen. Nu, het kan veranderen. Het helpt als je een computer koopt met linux-vriendelijke hardware, dan werken de meeste dingen namelijk wel vanzelf. Misschien nu geen optie, maar in de toekomst is het wel goed om daar aan te denken. > Maar zolang de ?handel? er niets kan aan verdienen, zie ik het niet > zitten. Ik ben benieuwd naar uw en anderen hun mening. De "handel" kan er wel al iets aan verdienen (er zitten enkele mensen op deze lijst die in dat geval zijn), maar voorlopig is het inderdaad nogal beperkt. Dat is uiteraard mede een gevolg van de weinige klanten die er om vragen... en daar heb je het kip en ei-probleem weer! -- Jan Claeys From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 14:47:40 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:47:40 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177249660.6403.3.camel@bavo> On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 15:10 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Voor het herkennen van de disks: > > 1. Controlleer /etcfstab en /etc/mtab en pas ze zo nodig aan. > > Die /etc/mtab aanpassen heeft geen zin. > Hier ben je verkeerd. Toen ik upgrade van Edgy naar Feisty beta, kon ik plots mijn usb drive niet meer bereiken. Die bleek in /etc/mtab ook niet te vinden te zijn. Ik heb die er manueel aan toegevoegd (informatie gevonden in /dev/.udev/db). Toen werkte het wel. Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/2b1c7a6b/attachment.htm From wouter-ubuntu at horre.be Sun Apr 22 14:56:00 2007 From: wouter-ubuntu at horre.be (Wouter =?iso-8859-15?q?Horr=E9?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:56:00 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177249660.6403.3.camel@bavo> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> <1177249660.6403.3.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <200704221556.00283.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> On Sunday 22 April 2007 15:47:40 Bert Mari?n wrote: > On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 15:10 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Die /etc/mtab aanpassen heeft geen zin. > > Hier ben je verkeerd. > > Toen ik upgrade van Edgy naar Feisty beta, kon ik plots mijn usb drive > niet meer bereiken. > Die bleek in /etc/mtab ook niet te vinden te zijn. Ik heb die er manueel > aan toegevoegd (informatie gevonden in /dev/.udev/db). > Toen werkte het wel. Dit is vreemd. De informatie in /etc/mtab wordt gegenereerd at runtime. Alles wat je daarin wijzigt, ben je bij een reboot terug kwijt. Normaal moet je als gebruiker enkel /etc/fstab aanpassen en dan mount zijn werk laten doen. mvg Wouter -- http://wouter.horre.be/ From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 15:03:25 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:03:25 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <200704221556.00283.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> <1177249660.6403.3.camel@bavo> <200704221556.00283.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> Message-ID: <1177250605.6403.10.camel@bavo> Ik moet er ook nog wel bij vertellen dat er ook een probleem was met de mount points. Twee ervan bleken plots uit zichzelf al files te bevatten en daarmee konden die drives ook niet gemount worden. (Vermoed ik (ik ben helaas nog steeds de newbie).) Mount points verwijderd, nieuwe mount points gemaakt. Files /etc/mtab en /etc/fstab gechecked, reboot, klaar. Bert. On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 15:56 +0200, Wouter Horr? wrote: > On Sunday 22 April 2007 15:47:40 Bert Mari?n wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 15:10 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > > Die /etc/mtab aanpassen heeft geen zin. > > > > Hier ben je verkeerd. > > > > Toen ik upgrade van Edgy naar Feisty beta, kon ik plots mijn usb drive > > niet meer bereiken. > > Die bleek in /etc/mtab ook niet te vinden te zijn. Ik heb die er manueel > > aan toegevoegd (informatie gevonden in /dev/.udev/db). > > Toen werkte het wel. > > Dit is vreemd. De informatie in /etc/mtab wordt gegenereerd at runtime. Alles > wat je daarin wijzigt, ben je bij een reboot terug kwijt. Normaal moet je als > gebruiker enkel /etc/fstab aanpassen en dan mount zijn werk laten doen. > > mvg > Wouter > -- > http://wouter.horre.be/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/42170dff/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 15:11:57 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:11:57 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1177251117.2123.33.camel@localhost> Op zaterdag 21-04-2007 om 20:34 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Stijn Verslycken: > I own a Dell Inspiron 6400 (in the States known as E1505), which is > quite common and sold all around the world. This laptop has a Core 2 > Duo T7200 cpu, 2GB RAM, a 160GB Sata disk, ipw3945abg wireless nic, > broadcom lan nic, ...and an ATI Mobilty Radeon X1400... > > I started off by booting a Feisty Live cd. The kernel loaded, the > fancy Ubuntu boot screen showed up and after a short while all > activity stopped and my numlock/capslock/... leds started blinking: a > kernel panic had occurred... Really cool :( Do you know why the kernel paniced? (And why the alternate CD didn't panic, as it uses exactly the same kernel...) Did you try to boot using the "safe graphics" boot option? > I killed my system, rebooted into Edgy and burnt the alternate cd for > attempt 2. > The alternate installer successfully completed the installation, > although I got X related questions during the installation about what > screen resolution I wanted to use. This is something I had never seen > before in any installation of Ubuntu or Debian... Once the > installation was completed I booted the system and the first thing I > saw was a Linux kind of a BSOD, asking me whether I wanted to see the > X debugging output or not. Then I was confronted with an extremely > user friendly login prompt... Well, the alternate CD isn't really supported for "unexperienced users", but of course the live-CD should work. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 15:21:58 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:21:58 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177250605.6403.10.camel@bavo> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> <1177249660.6403.3.camel@bavo> <200704221556.00283.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> <1177250605.6403.10.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177251719.2123.40.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 16:03 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > Ik moet er ook nog wel bij vertellen dat er ook een probleem was met > de mount points. Twee ervan bleken plots uit zichzelf al files te > bevatten en daarmee konden die drives ook niet gemount worden. > (Vermoed ik (ik ben helaas nog steeds de newbie).) Bestanden in de directory die je als "mount point" gebruikt zijn geen probleem voor het mounten, maar betekenen vermoedelijk wel dat je per ongeluk dingen in die map gezet hebt op een moment dat er niks onder gemount was. > Mount points verwijderd, nieuwe mount points gemaakt. Files /etc/mtab > en /etc/fstab gechecked, reboot, klaar. Alleen fstab aanpassen zou voldoende geweest zijn, want mtab wordt gewoon opnieuw gemaakt bij elke boot met de informatie van 'mount' e.d. (deels uit fstab gekregen). -- Jan Claeys From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 15:45:51 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:45:51 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177251719.2123.40.camel@localhost> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> <1177249660.6403.3.camel@bavo> <200704221556.00283.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> <1177250605.6403.10.camel@bavo> <1177251719.2123.40.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177253151.9497.4.camel@bavo> On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 16:21 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 16:03 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > Ik moet er ook nog wel bij vertellen dat er ook een probleem was met > > de mount points. Twee ervan bleken plots uit zichzelf al files te > > bevatten en daarmee konden die drives ook niet gemount worden. > > (Vermoed ik (ik ben helaas nog steeds de newbie).) > > Bestanden in de directory die je als "mount point" gebruikt zijn geen > probleem voor het mounten, maar betekenen vermoedelijk wel dat je per > ongeluk dingen in die map gezet hebt op een moment dat er niks onder > gemount was. > Sorry hoor, maar zelf heb ik niets in die mappen gezet. Dit gebeurde bij de upgrade van Edgy naar Feisty. Feisty blijkt bij upgrades nog wel meer te veranderen, zoals ondermeer de disk namen. B.v. /hda naar /sda enz... Kijk maar eens rond op Ubuntu Forum. Bert. > > -- > Jan Claeys > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In dit concrete geval: geen enkel, het is totaal tijdverlies. En dan te bedenken dat er in die bug report een perfect werkende workaround staat (na vele maanden zoeken en knosselen door ondergetekende gevonden). Er moet alleen maar iemand van Ubuntu die workaround in een nieuwe versie van de software steken zodat het default correct werkt. Excuseer, dit moest mij eventjes van het hart. -- Amedee Van Gasse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Twee ervan bleken plots uit zichzelf al files te > > > bevatten en daarmee konden die drives ook niet gemount worden. > > > (Vermoed ik (ik ben helaas nog steeds de newbie).) > > > > Bestanden in de directory die je als "mount point" gebruikt zijn geen > > probleem voor het mounten, maar betekenen vermoedelijk wel dat je per > > ongeluk dingen in die map gezet hebt op een moment dat er niks onder > > gemount was. > Sorry hoor, maar zelf heb ik niets in die mappen gezet. > Dit gebeurde bij de upgrade van Edgy naar Feisty. Bedoel je '.created_by_pmount' ? (Dat wordt toegevoegd door het programma dat automatisch schijven mount als ze beschikbaar komen, vb. USB schijven & USB sticks, zodat het weet dat het die directory zelf gemaakt heeft en dus ook zelf mag verwijderen.) > Feisty blijkt bij upgrades nog wel meer te veranderen, zoals ondermeer > de disk namen. > B.v. /hda naar /sda enz... Ja, dat is doordat de nieuwe 'libata' driver nu niet alleen voor de meeste SATA schijven maar ook voor de meeste PATA schijven gebruikt wordt. Daarom ook dat al sinds "Edgy" fstab geconverteerd wordt naar het gebruik van een "UUID" ipv de "device name". Wie na de release een upgrade deed met de 'update-manager' of dan een nieuwe installatie deed, zou normaal geen problemen mogen hebben met die verandering. -- Jan Claeys From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 16:27:45 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:27:45 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177255012.2123.57.camel@localhost> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177247411.2123.12.camel@localhost> <1177249660.6403.3.camel@bavo> <200704221556.00283.wouter-ubuntu@horre.be> <1177250605.6403.10.camel@bavo> <1177251719.2123.40.camel@localhost> <1177253151.9497.4.camel@bavo> <1177255012.2123.57.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177255665.12263.5.camel@bavo> On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 17:16 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 16:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 16:21 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > > > > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 16:03 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > > > Ik moet er ook nog wel bij vertellen dat er ook een probleem was met > > > > de mount points. Twee ervan bleken plots uit zichzelf al files te > > > > bevatten en daarmee konden die drives ook niet gemount worden. > > > > (Vermoed ik (ik ben helaas nog steeds de newbie).) > > > > > > Bestanden in de directory die je als "mount point" gebruikt zijn geen > > > probleem voor het mounten, maar betekenen vermoedelijk wel dat je per > > > ongeluk dingen in die map gezet hebt op een moment dat er niks onder > > > gemount was. > > > Sorry hoor, maar zelf heb ik niets in die mappen gezet. > > Dit gebeurde bij de upgrade van Edgy naar Feisty. > > Bedoel je '.created_by_pmount' ? > (Dat wordt toegevoegd door het programma dat automatisch schijven mount > als ze beschikbaar komen, vb. USB schijven & USB sticks, zodat het weet > dat het die directory zelf gemaakt heeft en dus ook zelf mag > verwijderen.) > Ik weet niet welk programma of programmaonderdeel daar verantwoordelijk voor was (newbie, remember). Ik heb Edgy ge?pgraded met de Feisty beta alternate cd (Edgy draaien, cd erin, de upgrade liep vanzelf), daarna stonden er files in 2 mount points (die ik trouwens niet met de browser kon openen). > > Feisty blijkt bij upgrades nog wel meer te veranderen, zoals ondermeer > > de disk namen. > > B.v. /hda naar /sda enz... > > Ja, dat is doordat de nieuwe 'libata' driver nu niet alleen voor de > meeste SATA schijven maar ook voor de meeste PATA schijven gebruikt > wordt. > > Daarom ook dat al sinds "Edgy" fstab geconverteerd wordt naar het > gebruik van een "UUID" ipv de "device name". Wie na de release een > upgrade deed met de 'update-manager' of dan een nieuwe installatie deed, > zou normaal geen problemen mogen hebben met die verandering. > > > -- > Jan Claeys > > Misschien is het goed dat we de "Newbie" mails nu afsluiten, zodat we terug naar de gewone, Engelstalige conversaties kunnen overschakelen. Ik heb ergens gelezen dat dit feitelijk de bedoeling is bij Ubuntu-be. Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/d6e29923/attachment.htm From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 16:40:04 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:40:04 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point Message-ID: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> Hi, I volunteered to be a support point, but where can I find (or get) information to get to CDs, DVDs, etc.? Also I need information about all the things that are expected for me to do. Can anyone lighten my darkness? Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/35e732c4/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 16:49:18 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:49:18 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point In-Reply-To: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> References: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177256959.2123.63.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 17:40 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > I volunteered to be a support point, but where can I find (or get) > information to get to CDs, DVDs, etc.? Easiest is to order them yourself on shipit, or burn them yourself. Once we have a large box for ubuntu-be, it will be announced here, but most likely these will be used for going to computer fairs. > Also I need information about all the things that are expected for me > to do. You can distribute CDs (either pressed or burned), give demonstrations of basic Ubuntu use (e.g. how to install programs) or help people to install Ubuntu, depending on your skills & the time you have. > Can anyone lighten my darkness? If something is still not clear, please ask more detailed questions about it. -- Jan Claeys From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 16:51:37 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 17:51:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point In-Reply-To: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> References: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <10729bd00704220851i512a16d0qb67b3e71c4d6bf18@mail.gmail.com> You can order cd' via shipit : http://shipit.ubuntu.org , http://shipit.kubuntu.org after registering ... they are free They also can be downloaded and burned but that is at your (little) expense. Phil 2007/4/22, Bert Mari?n : > > Hi, > > I volunteered to be a support point, but where can I find (or get) > information to get to CDs, DVDs, etc.? > > Also I need information about all the things that are expected for me to > do. > > Can anyone lighten my darkness? > > Bert. > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/66e86c93/attachment.htm From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 17:09:30 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:09:30 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704220851i512a16d0qb67b3e71c4d6bf18@mail.gmail.com> References: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> <10729bd00704220851i512a16d0qb67b3e71c4d6bf18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177258170.14271.1.camel@bavo> Okay. Thanks. I ordered both Ubuntu and Kubuntu CDs. Bert. On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 17:51 +0200, Philippe Piquer wrote: > You can order cd' via shipit : http://shipit.ubuntu.org , > http://shipit.kubuntu.org after registering ... they are free > They also can be downloaded and burned but that is at your (little) > expense. > > Phil > > > 2007/4/22, Bert Mari?n : > > Hi, > > I volunteered to be a support point, but where can I find (or > get) information to get to CDs, DVDs, etc.? > > Also I need information about all the things that are expected > for me to do. > > Can anyone lighten my darkness? > > Bert. > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration > options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/e2fbbbd3/attachment.htm From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 17:10:12 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:10:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point In-Reply-To: <1177256959.2123.63.camel@localhost> References: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> <1177256959.2123.63.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177258212.14271.3.camel@bavo> Okay. Thanks. On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 17:49 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 17:40 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > I volunteered to be a support point, but where can I find (or get) > > information to get to CDs, DVDs, etc.? > > Easiest is to order them yourself on shipit, or burn them yourself. > > Once we have a large box for ubuntu-be, it will be announced here, but > most likely these will be used for going to computer fairs. > > > Also I need information about all the things that are expected for me > > to do. > > You can distribute CDs (either pressed or burned), give demonstrations > of basic Ubuntu use (e.g. how to install programs) or help people to > install Ubuntu, depending on your skills & the time you have. > > > Can anyone lighten my darkness? > > If something is still not clear, please ask more detailed questions > about it. > > > -- > Jan Claeys > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/1f2b5166/attachment.htm From paul at cobbaut.be Sun Apr 22 17:12:37 2007 From: paul at cobbaut.be (Paul Cobbaut) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:12:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704220851i512a16d0qb67b3e71c4d6bf18@mail.gmail.com> References: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> <10729bd00704220851i512a16d0qb67b3e71c4d6bf18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <462B8975.9090005@cobbaut.be> Philippe Piquer wrote: > You can order cd' via shipit : http://shipit.ubuntu.org page not found this works for me: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ cheers, paul -- blog http://cobbaut.blogspot.com CV http://www.cobbaut.be/cobbaut.php?blad=cv asiel http://www.dierenasieltienen.be From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 17:20:24 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:20:24 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point In-Reply-To: <462B8975.9090005@cobbaut.be> References: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> <10729bd00704220851i512a16d0qb67b3e71c4d6bf18@mail.gmail.com> <462B8975.9090005@cobbaut.be> Message-ID: <1177258824.15769.1.camel@bavo> On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 18:12 +0200, Paul Cobbaut wrote: > Philippe Piquer wrote: > > You can order cd' via shipit : http://shipit.ubuntu.org > > page not found > > this works for me: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ > > > cheers, > paul > > Yes, I already noticed that the URL wasn't correct. But thanks for letting me know. Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/e1754971/attachment-0001.htm From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 18:06:44 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:06:44 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Character Encoding Message-ID: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> Hi, Which character encoding is commonly used by Linux users? I sometimes experience a little trouble viewing mails. Must be because I use characters like "?" and "?". At the moment I use iso-8859-1, but I notice UTF-8 is rather commonly used. It also makes a big difference for viewing files on my Windows partitions; e.g. for my music files I quiet often get a rather strange name with mostly symbols. Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/ffbfa2ae/attachment.htm From mailstijn at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 18:15:56 2007 From: mailstijn at gmail.com (Stijn Verslycken) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:15:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: <1177251117.2123.33.camel@localhost> References: <1177251117.2123.33.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 4/22/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op zaterdag 21-04-2007 om 20:34 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Stijn > Verslycken: > > I own a Dell Inspiron 6400 (in the States known as E1505), which is > > quite common and sold all around the world. This laptop has a Core 2 > > Duo T7200 cpu, 2GB RAM, a 160GB Sata disk, ipw3945abg wireless nic, > > broadcom lan nic, ...and an ATI Mobilty Radeon X1400... > > > > I started off by booting a Feisty Live cd. The kernel loaded, the > > fancy Ubuntu boot screen showed up and after a short while all > > activity stopped and my numlock/capslock/... leds started blinking: a > > kernel panic had occurred... Really cool :( > > Do you know why the kernel paniced? (And why the alternate CD didn't > panic, as it uses exactly the same kernel...) > I have no idea. Because the graphical bootup screen was used, I have no idea what was actually happening. I saw the progress indicator stopped, my cd drive stopped, there was no activity on my harddisk and all leds started blinking, a typical sign to indicate a kernel panic. I tried to reproduce it later on, but luckily I was not able to do so. It boots up the system, and instead of showing the gdm login screen, it shows a blue screen "Failed to start the X server....." and then a command line login prompt. > Did you try to boot using the "safe graphics" boot option? > I did, but the results are all the same. -- Stijn "Slike" Verslycken mailstijn at gmail.com From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 18:21:17 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:21:17 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Character Encoding In-Reply-To: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> References: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177262478.2123.72.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:06 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > Which character encoding is commonly used by Linux users? It depends, but Ubuntu uses UTF-8 by default. > I sometimes experience a little trouble viewing mails. Must be because > I use characters like "?" and "?". That shouldn't happen when a mail or the part of the mail that you are viewing has the correct MIME 'Content-Type:' header. > At the moment I use iso-8859-1, but I notice UTF-8 is rather commonly > used. In your mail that I reply to, you are using UTF-8: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > It also makes a big difference for viewing files on my Windows > partitions; e.g. for my music files I quiet often get a rather strange > name with mostly symbols. It's possible to set a charset for mounting Windows partitions, but that only affects filenames. If you are talking about tags in e.g. MP3 files, there are some tools (scripts) that can convert these to UTF-8, but then your Windows programs might have problems displaying them. The problem is that ID3 tags have no (standard) way to tell which charset is used in them. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 18:30:12 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:30:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: <1177251117.2123.33.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177263013.2123.81.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:15 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Stijn Verslycken: > On 4/22/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Do you know why the kernel paniced? (And why the alternate CD didn't > > panic, as it uses exactly the same kernel...) > I have no idea. Because the graphical bootup screen was used, I have > no idea what was actually happening. I saw the progress indicator > stopped, my cd drive stopped, there was no activity on my harddisk and > all leds started blinking, a typical sign to indicate a kernel panic. You can try to switch to the virtual console that has the boot messages before it panics. > I tried to reproduce it later on, but luckily I was not able to do so. > It boots up the system, and instead of showing the gdm login screen, > it shows a blue screen "Failed to start the X server....." and then a > command line login prompt. > > Did you try to boot using the "safe graphics" boot option? > > I did, but the results are all the same. If the live-cd can't start X with the "safe graphics" option, that must mean your graphics card has no VESA BIOS or it is broken...? Or do you mean that happened only _after_ installing with the alternative CD? -- Jan Claeys From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 18:34:44 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:34:44 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Character Encoding In-Reply-To: <1177262478.2123.72.camel@localhost> References: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> <1177262478.2123.72.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177263284.6279.9.camel@bavo> On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 19:21 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:06 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > Which character encoding is commonly used by Linux users? > > It depends, but Ubuntu uses UTF-8 by default. > > > I sometimes experience a little trouble viewing mails. Must be because > > I use characters like "?" and "?". > > That shouldn't happen when a mail or the part of the mail that you are > viewing has the correct MIME 'Content-Type:' header. > > > At the moment I use iso-8859-1, but I notice UTF-8 is rather commonly > > used. > > In your mail that I reply to, you are using UTF-8: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That IS very strange, because here it clearly says ISO-8859-1 > > > It also makes a big difference for viewing files on my Windows > > partitions; e.g. for my music files I quiet often get a rather strange > > name with mostly symbols. > > It's possible to set a charset for mounting Windows partitions, but that > only affects filenames. How do I do that? > > If you are talking about tags in e.g. MP3 files, there are some tools > (scripts) that can convert these to UTF-8, but then your Windows > programs might have problems displaying them. The problem is that ID3 > tags have no (standard) way to tell which charset is used in them. > > > -- > Jan Claeys > > No, I was just talking file names. Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/b33a67b3/attachment.htm From mailstijn at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 18:43:17 2007 From: mailstijn at gmail.com (Stijn Verslycken) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:43:17 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: <1177263013.2123.81.camel@localhost> References: <1177251117.2123.33.camel@localhost> <1177263013.2123.81.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 4/22/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:15 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Stijn > Verslycken: > > On 4/22/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > > > Do you know why the kernel paniced? (And why the alternate CD didn't > > > panic, as it uses exactly the same kernel...) > > > I have no idea. Because the graphical bootup screen was used, I have > > no idea what was actually happening. I saw the progress indicator > > stopped, my cd drive stopped, there was no activity on my harddisk and > > all leds started blinking, a typical sign to indicate a kernel panic. > > You can try to switch to the virtual console that has the boot messages > before it panics. > It doesn't occur any more... even when booting with the "quiet" and "splash" boot options. An improvement :) > > I tried to reproduce it later on, but luckily I was not able to do so. > > It boots up the system, and instead of showing the gdm login screen, > > it shows a blue screen "Failed to start the X server....." and then a > > command line login prompt. > > > > Did you try to boot using the "safe graphics" boot option? > > > > I did, but the results are all the same. > > If the live-cd can't start X with the "safe graphics" option, that must > mean your graphics card has no VESA BIOS or it is broken...? > > Or do you mean that happened only _after_ installing with the > alternative CD? > Booting from the live cd results in a failing X, installing Feisty results in a failing X... everything results in a failing X (even the reconfiguring). The only thing that helped here was installing the ATI proprietary drivers, what I was about to do anyway in order to use my 1680x1050 resolution. The X server provided on the installation media (live or alternate) is clearly broken, as stated in the existing bug report. They were aware of it before the final release of Feisty. Vesa used to work before Feisty, and works with other distro's. -- Stijn "Slike" Verslycken mailstijn at gmail.com From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 19:14:11 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:14:11 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Character Encoding In-Reply-To: <1177263284.6279.9.camel@bavo> References: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> <1177262478.2123.72.camel@localhost> <1177263284.6279.9.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177265652.2123.91.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:34 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 19:21 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:06 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > > At the moment I use iso-8859-1, but I notice UTF-8 is rather commonly > > > used. > > > > In your mail that I reply to, you are using UTF-8: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > That IS very strange, because here it clearly says ISO-8859-1 Where does it say that? (Ctrl+U should pop up the source of the mail you are viewing.) > > > It also makes a big difference for viewing files on my Windows > > > partitions; e.g. for my music files I quiet often get a rather strange > > > name with mostly symbols. > > > > It's possible to set a charset for mounting Windows partitions, but that > > only affects filenames. > > How do I do that? If you know about command lines and changing /etc/fstab, these options are listed in 'man mount' (this information is also available in the GNOME help browser). The options you need are or might be different for FAT/VFAT and NTFS, and I'm not sure what you would need for your Windows partitions (and I don't have any anymore to test on). BTW: You might want to ask this again on the ubuntu-nl list. -- Jan Claeys From marien.bert at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 20:21:29 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (Bert =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mari=EBn?=) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:21:29 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Character Encoding In-Reply-To: <1177265652.2123.91.camel@localhost> References: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> <1177262478.2123.72.camel@localhost> <1177263284.6279.9.camel@bavo> <1177265652.2123.91.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177269689.8655.7.camel@bavo> On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 20:14 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:34 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 19:21 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > > > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:06 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > > > > At the moment I use iso-8859-1, but I notice UTF-8 is rather commonly > > > > used. > > > > > > In your mail that I reply to, you are using UTF-8: > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > That IS very strange, because here it clearly says ISO-8859-1 > > Where does it say that? > > (Ctrl+U should pop up the source of the mail you are viewing.) Even more confusing: Mime says (Ctrl+U) : iso-8859-15 But: when I go: evolution > edit > preferences > mail preferences > general I see that the default character encoding is set to ISO-8859-1 And you see it as UTF-8 Strange indeed. > > > > > It also makes a big difference for viewing files on my Windows > > > > partitions; e.g. for my music files I quiet often get a rather strange > > > > name with mostly symbols. > > > > > > It's possible to set a charset for mounting Windows partitions, but that > > > only affects filenames. > > > > How do I do that? > > If you know about command lines and changing /etc/fstab, these options > are listed in 'man mount' (this information is also available in the > GNOME help browser). > I'll check that. > The options you need are or might be different for FAT/VFAT and NTFS, > and I'm not sure what you would need for your Windows partitions (and I > don't have any anymore to test on). > -- > Jan Claeys I'll keep that in mind. Bert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/1258734c/attachment-0001.htm From dirk.tas at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 20:25:13 2007 From: dirk.tas at telenet.be (Dirk Tas) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:25:13 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: <1177251117.2123.33.camel@localhost> <1177263013.2123.81.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177269913.5350.5.camel@tungsten> Hello, You can find some info on this ' http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/ ' page Dirk Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:43 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Stijn Verslycken: > On 4/22/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 19:15 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Stijn > > Verslycken: > > > On 4/22/07, Jan Claeys wrote: > > > > Do you know why the kernel paniced? (And why the alternate CD didn't > > > > panic, as it uses exactly the same kernel...) > > > > > I have no idea. Because the graphical bootup screen was used, I have > > > no idea what was actually happening. I saw the progress indicator > > > stopped, my cd drive stopped, there was no activity on my harddisk and > > > all leds started blinking, a typical sign to indicate a kernel panic. > > > > You can try to switch to the virtual console that has the boot messages > > before it panics. > > > > It doesn't occur any more... even when booting with the "quiet" and > "splash" boot options. > An improvement :) > > > > > I tried to reproduce it later on, but luckily I was not able to do so. > > > It boots up the system, and instead of showing the gdm login screen, > > > it shows a blue screen "Failed to start the X server....." and then a > > > command line login prompt. > > > > > > Did you try to boot using the "safe graphics" boot option? > > > > > > I did, but the results are all the same. > > > > If the live-cd can't start X with the "safe graphics" option, that must > > mean your graphics card has no VESA BIOS or it is broken...? > > > > Or do you mean that happened only _after_ installing with the > > alternative CD? > > > > Booting from the live cd results in a failing X, installing Feisty > results in a failing X... everything results in a failing X (even the > reconfiguring). The only thing that helped here was installing the ATI > proprietary drivers, what I was about to do anyway in order to use my > 1680x1050 resolution. > > The X server provided on the installation media (live or alternate) is > clearly broken, as stated in the existing bug report. They were aware > of it before the final release of Feisty. > > Vesa used to work before Feisty, and works with other distro's. > > -- > Stijn "Slike" Verslycken > mailstijn at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070422/e94ad005/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 22 20:42:23 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:42:23 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Character Encoding In-Reply-To: <1177269689.8655.7.camel@bavo> References: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> <1177262478.2123.72.camel@localhost> <1177263284.6279.9.camel@bavo> <1177265652.2123.91.camel@localhost> <1177269689.8655.7.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177270943.2123.102.camel@localhost> Op zondag 22-04-2007 om 21:21 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > Even more confusing: > > Mime says (Ctrl+U) : iso-8859-15 If you are looking at my mails: that's what I chose as default encoding in Evolution (because some other mail clients have/had problems with utf-8), but your mails seem to be utf-8... Any way, both should work, as long as the charset setting is correct. -- Jan Claeys From marc.coevoet at fulladsl.be Sun Apr 22 21:08:05 2007 From: marc.coevoet at fulladsl.be (Marc Coevoet) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:08:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <462BC0A5.70308@fulladsl.be> Bert Mari?n schreef: > Beste, > > Ja, op de forums is nogal wat afgekankerd over de draadloze verbinding > en de (niet)herkenning van de disks. > Zelf hab ik dat opgelost met: > 1. De Netwerk Manager de?nstalleren; > 2. Installeren van Wifi-radar en daarmee het netwerk instellen. > Een ethernet bridge als de wet11 of wet54g van linksys doet ook wonderen... (sommige access points kun je omkeren tot bridges, niet alle, ik,denk D-link wel, linksys wellicht niet, en een Belkin die ik had ook al niet. Ze verkopen toch zo graag een tweede doosje met net dezelfde hardware in ..) Je kunt dat bovendien op zolder zetten en afspraken maken met de buren ... http://reseaucitoyen.be Ik heb nog nooit providers *gezien* die ertegen zijn .. Angsthazen die vanalles beweren op internet (ver van mijn bed ;-) wel .. Marc From marc.coevoet at fulladsl.be Sun Apr 22 21:08:27 2007 From: marc.coevoet at fulladsl.be (Marc Coevoet) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:08:27 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <462B4CD2.9000104@gmail.com> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <462B4CD2.9000104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <462BC0BB.1080707@fulladsl.be> Michel Daggelinckx schreef: > *Draadloos internet onder Ubuntu is zowat een kip en ei probleem. > > De nodige tools om uw draadloos netwerk te bedienen moeten gedownload > worden met synaptic of een gelijkaardige tool. > * Deze lijst dient wel niet voor support, maar omdat we toch uitvoerig bezig zijn: Op de Amilo 1655 zette ik deze driver voor wifi, het werkt, maar ik werk lekker met draad, of anders wordt ik zo druk als de bijen die naar t schijnt last hebben van hun gsms .. http://www.marvec.org/amilo/ Marc From marcsje at fulladsl.be Sun Apr 22 20:50:28 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:50:28 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <462B4CD2.9000104@gmail.com> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <462B4CD2.9000104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <462BBC84.9090002@fulladsl.be> Michel Daggelinckx schreef: > *Draadloos internet onder Ubuntu is zowat een kip en ei probleem. > > De nodige tools om uw draadloos netwerk te bedienen moeten gedownload > worden met synaptic of een gelijkaardige tool. > * Deze lijst dient wel niet voor support, maar omdat we toch uitvoerig bezig zijn: Op de Amilo 1655 zette ik deze driver voor wifi, het werkt, maar ik werk lekker met draad, of anders wordt ik zo druk als de bijen die naar t schijnt last hebben van hun gsms .. http://www.marvec.org/amilo/ Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From marcsje at fulladsl.be Sun Apr 22 20:55:10 2007 From: marcsje at fulladsl.be (Marc) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:55:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> References: <1177176272.2556.18.camel@bavo> <1177240661.19265.5.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <462BBD9E.1080001@fulladsl.be> Bert Mari?n schreef: > Beste, > > Ja, op de forums is nogal wat afgekankerd over de draadloze verbinding > en de (niet)herkenning van de disks. > Zelf hab ik dat opgelost met: > 1. De Netwerk Manager de?nstalleren; > 2. Installeren van Wifi-radar en daarmee het netwerk instellen. > Een ethernet bridge als de wet11 of wet54g van linksys doet ook wonderen... (sommige access points kun je omkeren tot bridges, niet alle, ik,denk D-link wel, linksys wellicht niet, en een Belkin die ik had ook al niet. Ze verkopen toch zo graag een tweede doosje met net dezelfde hardware in ..) Je kunt dat bovendien op zolder zetten en afspraken maken met de buren ... http://reseaucitoyen.be Ik heb nog nooit providers *gezien* die ertegen zijn .. Angsthazen die vanalles beweren op internet (ver van mijn bed ;-) wel .. Marc -- -- Shortwave transmissions in English, Francais, Nederlands, Deutsch, Suid-Afrikaans, Chinese, Dansk, Urdu, Cantonese, Greek, Spanish, Portuguese, ... http://languageradio.tk Updated every 2-3 months. From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 22:02:51 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:02:51 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] The Funky Feisty Competition... In-Reply-To: <1177104760.12818.48.camel@localhost> References: <1177104760.12818.48.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <1177275771.7740.0.camel@kevin-desktop> Op vr, 20-04-2007 te 23:32 +0200, schreef Jan Claeys: > > > To celebrate the incredible release of Ubuntu 7.04 The Feisty > Fawn, we are challenging the also incredible worldwide Ubuntu > community to take part in an...incredible competition! > > The competition is simple - take a picture of yourself or your > group (LoCo team, LUG, family, class or any other group) > celebrating the release of Feisty in an interesting way. Not > only can you get your incredible photos online, but you can also > win some prizes too! > > > > -- > Jan Claeys > > If you mae photo's off the gathering to go watchs some deers, was that today?, then you can use those, a guaranteed success. -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From alexficelle.pub at gmail.com Sun Apr 22 22:09:58 2007 From: alexficelle.pub at gmail.com (Alexandre Ficelle) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:09:58 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <462BCF26.1020402@gmail.com> Hi all! I've updated the wiki page to include this small report and a picture of *Feisty*... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/meet_the_fawn After a bit of delay (sorry Beno?t for making you wait 1 hour!), the minibus arrived in La Reid. We had the chance to see deer, wild boars, wolves, foxes, squirrels and other animals. Most fawns weren't so young anymore, but we did manage to spot *Feisty* nonetheless. All in all, it's been a nice and quiet afternoon, a nice walk in this park, which ended around ice cream and drinks. Not so bad... People present: Annelies Bollen, Mark Van den Borre, Beno?t Plunus, B?n?dicte Tondeur, Alexandre Laurent Pictures of the day: http://alaurent.port5.com/ubuntufawn/index.html (on Alexandre's website) http://membres.lycos.fr/alaurent/ubuntufawn/index.html ( mirror) Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > Hello Ubuntu friends! > > The newest release of Ubuntu will be out in a couple of days. As you > probably know, the mascot of this new version is the Feisty Fawn. We at > Ubuntu-be.org wanted to do something a bit out of the ordinary to > celebrate this event. > > To stay in the spirit of this release, we decided to go meet some > real deers, and hopefully fawns as well! Join us on Sunday April 22, > 2007 at 14:30 in the nature park in La Reid. > > To get there, hop aboard the minivan traveling across Belgium. All > practical details can be found on the wiki. Please add your name there > too if you plan on coming! > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/meet_the_fawn > > Spread the word around! Hoping to see you all there... > > Sincerely, > > Alexandre Laurent > From kevin.elaerts at telenet.be Sun Apr 22 22:21:50 2007 From: kevin.elaerts at telenet.be (Kevin Elaerts) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:21:50 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Character Encoding In-Reply-To: <1177269689.8655.7.camel@bavo> References: <1177261604.6279.5.camel@bavo> <1177262478.2123.72.camel@localhost> <1177263284.6279.9.camel@bavo> <1177265652.2123.91.camel@localhost> <1177269689.8655.7.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <1177276910.7740.2.camel@kevin-desktop> Op zo, 22-04-2007 te 21:21 +0200, schreef Bert Mari?n: > iso-8859-15 This is a subset off iso-8859-1 with the addition off the euro-symbol. -- Kevin Elaerts He who likes free software, but also free beer ;) kevin.elaerts at ubuntu-nl.org From ubuntu at sioben.net Mon Apr 23 09:13:04 2007 From: ubuntu at sioben.net (Benjamin Sion) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:13:04 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <462BCF26.1020402@gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <462BCF26.1020402@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177315984.5878.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 ? 23:09 +0200, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > Hi all! > > I've updated the wiki page to include this small report and a > picture of *Feisty*... > (...) > Pictures of the day: > http://alaurent.port5.com/ubuntufawn/index.html (on Alexandre's website) > http://membres.lycos.fr/alaurent/ubuntufawn/index.html ( mirror) Really nice pics! Did you send one of them to The Funky Feisty Competition ? bEN From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Mon Apr 23 11:17:25 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:17:25 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Support Point In-Reply-To: <1177258824.15769.1.camel@bavo> References: <1177256404.12263.10.camel@bavo> <10729bd00704220851i512a16d0qb67b3e71c4d6bf18@mail.gmail.com> <462B8975.9090005@cobbaut.be> <1177258824.15769.1.camel@bavo> Message-ID: <10729bd00704230317v4c468438y30f7e9609207c788@mail.gmail.com> Indeed my mistake ... 2007/4/22, Bert Mari?n : > > On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 18:12 +0200, Paul Cobbaut wrote: > > Philippe Piquer wrote:> You can order cd' via shipit : http://shipit.ubuntu.org > page not found > this works for me: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ > > cheers,paul > > Yes, I already noticed that the URL wasn't correct. > But thanks for letting me know. > > Bert. > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070423/c8cd6d96/attachment.htm From kristoff.bonne at skypro.be Tue Apr 24 06:39:36 2007 From: kristoff.bonne at skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:39:36 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] generic kernel en Feisty Message-ID: <462D9818.8010302@skypro.be> Gegroet, Vraag 2 i.v.m. de installatie van Feisty op deze laptop. Deze nieuwe computer heeft een Intel Core Duo. Ik heb echter gemerkt dat met de standaard "386" kernel, er maar ??n van de twee processoren gebruikt wordt. Na een beetje zoeken heb ik gevonden dat je daarvoor de "generic" kernel nodig hebt, maar als ik die installeer en gebruik; dan heeft die problemen met het vinden van de drivers voor de wlan. (een "Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG"). Zijn er bepaalde zaken die men nog moet doen om een "generic" kernel te gebruiken? Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. From kristoff.bonne at skypro.be Tue Apr 24 06:55:26 2007 From: kristoff.bonne at skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:55:26 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] generic kernel en Feisty In-Reply-To: <462D9818.8010302@skypro.be> References: <462D9818.8010302@skypro.be> Message-ID: <462D9BCE.8010407@skypro.be> Gegroet, Kristoff Bonne schreef: > Vraag 2 i.v.m. de installatie van Feisty op deze laptop. > (...) > Zijn er bepaalde zaken die men nog moet doen om een "generic" kernel te > gebruiken? > OK, ik neem deze vraag terug. Ik heb het net zelf gevonden. Het is het pakket "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic" dat tekort was. Daar zit o.a. "madwifi" in die nodig is voor de wlan kaart. Nog een probleem opgelost! :-) > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. > Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. From kristoff.bonne at skypro.be Tue Apr 24 06:57:05 2007 From: kristoff.bonne at skypro.be (Kristoff Bonne) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:57:05 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] generic kernel en Feisty (oeps ... wrong forum) In-Reply-To: <462D9818.8010302@skypro.be> References: <462D9818.8010302@skypro.be> Message-ID: <462D9C31.8040400@skypro.be> Gegroet, oeps. I just noticed I posted this in the wrong forum. This was supposted to go into the ubuntu-nl group. :-( My appologies! Cheerio! Kr. Bonne. From nicolas.daluzduque at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 11:38:56 2007 From: nicolas.daluzduque at gmail.com (Nicolas da Luz Duque) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:38:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Humor ? In-Reply-To: <462CAF8E.20408@171.be> References: <462CAF8E.20408@171.be> Message-ID: <1177411136.24337.26.camel@Rakuen> Le lundi 23 avril 2007 ? 15:07 +0200, Patrick Coeman a ?crit : > http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=39087 Waw, so M$ really is dead[1] after all ! [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/microsoft.html -- Nicolas da Luz Duque Jabber GPG: 1024D/89533945 | 4646 3449 8BB1 D2E9 6122 08B2 084E 7833 8953 3945 From wesley at ubuntu-nl.org Tue Apr 24 19:54:14 2007 From: wesley at ubuntu-nl.org (Wesley S.) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:54:14 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241148o26b0ed52hac23f33aad80441b@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> 20-04-07 Philippe Piquer > > Nice > For me it would be a black polo sized L > Should I follow the NL instructions for order or/and money ?? (but then I > need IBAN/BIC info) If you live in The Netherlands, that will probably be the best thing to do. If you live in Belgium, you'll probably want to order them from me. Phil > By the way , ubuntu-fr is also on the t-shirt path :) Good to hear that :) Anyway, I will soon accept orders for the t-shirts and polo's for Belgium. Here's a small summary again: - sizes available: S to XXXXL > > - colors available: blue and black > > - they have a 4.5 x 4.5cm Ubuntu logo stitched in the top left > > - photo of a polo: http://ubuntu.juliux.de/shirt/polo.jpg > > - pricing: 11 euros for t-shirt (12 euros for XXXL or larger), 16 euros > > for polo (17 euros for XXXL or larger) > > > I do hope that these are the right prices, but because I'm not entirely sure yet about the exact price, incl. shipping, and I'm not sure yet how much you'll have to pay extra to send them to you (in case you can't pick them up yourself in Turnhout) I'll try to find out more soon, and I'll start accepting orders when I know for sure how much all this will cost. -- Wesley Stessens < wesley at ubuntu-nl.org > Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001) http://wesley.debianbox.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070424/7d7a0579/attachment.htm From yellow.penguin at edpnet.be Tue Apr 24 20:28:22 2007 From: yellow.penguin at edpnet.be (Y P) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:28:22 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? Message-ID: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> Hoi, ik ben een oude Debian-addicted: mijn partner gebruikt nu Feisty, ze kon het redelijk intuitief installeren, maar wat heeft het meer dan een Etch? is het iets zichtbaar of iets tastbaar? Of moest zij een Kubuntu installeren om iets innoverend te zien? OK, misschien tastbaarder, want de hardware is wel prima gedetecteerd, maar de multimedia toestanden zijn alles behalve ok: - als ik vandaag de sun-java6-jre + sun-java6-plugin niet door de Sun java plugin verving, konden er de helft van online games niet gespeeld worden, of dan zonder audio; - idem de Flash moet een binair zijn, niet de libflash-mozplugin die met Ubuntu repos mee komt, anders blijft de gamesite die Flash plugin eisen, en 't staat er op! Kortom, het doet me denken aan de Mandrake toestanden van weleer! overtuig me aub dat ik Ubuntu mag blijven promoten, maar hoe kan ik het doen als het veel simpelder en effici?nter blijkt met een Debian Etch te werken, zonder veel poespas? (NB: Sun Java, zelfde probleem). Ben dus beetje teleurgesteld en verwachtte er meer van, zeker tov Debian. Greetingz, Y P From kubuntu.be at gmail.com Tue Apr 24 21:21:36 2007 From: kubuntu.be at gmail.com (Philippe Piquer) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:21:36 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241148o26b0ed52hac23f33aad80441b@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10729bd00704241321p1ea2820bq52aa2922a12ed1ef@mail.gmail.com> I live in Belgium so I would order it thru you, I'll probably would take a tshirt also (L sized) to make the shpiing more price efficient :) PhiL 2007/4/24, Wesley S. : > > 20-04-07 Philippe Piquer > > > > Nice > > For me it would be a black polo sized L > > Should I follow the NL instructions for order or/and money ?? (but then > > I need IBAN/BIC info) > > > If you live in The Netherlands, that will probably be the best thing to > do. If you live in Belgium, you'll probably want to order them from me. > > > Phil > > By the way , ubuntu-fr is also on the t-shirt path :) > > > Good to hear that :) > > Anyway, I will soon accept orders for the t-shirts and polo's for Belgium. > Here's a small summary again: > > > - sizes available: S to XXXXL > > > - colors available: blue and black > > > - they have a 4.5 x 4.5cm Ubuntu logo stitched in the top left > > > - photo of a polo: http://ubuntu.juliux.de/shirt/polo.jpg > > > - pricing: 11 euros for t-shirt (12 euros for XXXL or larger), 16 > > > euros for polo (17 euros for XXXL or larger) > > > > > > > > > I do hope that these are the right prices, but because I'm not entirely > sure yet about the exact price, incl. shipping, and I'm not sure yet how > much you'll have to pay extra to send them to you (in case you can't pick > them up yourself in Turnhout) > > I'll try to find out more soon, and I'll start accepting orders when I > know for sure how much all this will cost. > > > -- > Wesley Stessens < wesley at ubuntu-nl.org > > Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001) > http://wesley.debianbox.be > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070424/4d823b10/attachment.htm From patrick.coeman at 171.be Tue Apr 24 21:38:40 2007 From: patrick.coeman at 171.be (Patrick Coeman) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:38:40 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> Message-ID: <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> Ik ga daar kort op in gaan want binnen de kortste keren zitten we in een gigantisch welles/nietes gedoe. Even schetsen hoe ik hier werk: ik gebruik Debian op mn servers en ubuntu op de desktop. En om een antwoord op je vraag te geven. Geef je partner de laatste Debian en de laatste Ubuntu en laat ze beide installeren. Doorgaans is dat al een zee van verschil. Verder is 'doorgaans' Ubuntu vlugger met het ondersteunen van nieuwe hardware. Ik draai hier op een Intel S3000 MoBo met een Intel Xeon 3000 processor. Ubuntu was vrij snel weg met de hardware, bij Debian was het wachten op een late beta van 4.0 voor dat kon. Bij Ubuntu ben je om de 6 maanden toe aan een versie die de huidige stand van de software volgt, Bij Debian was de versie upgrade bij momenten een jarenlang draaien met een unstable, verbeter me, maar was het 3 jaar om van 2.2 naar 3.0 te geraken? Ik geef toe, van 3.0 naar 4.0 is terug een redelijk tempo. En voor de rest is het een kwestie van smaak, gemak en aanvoelen. De update manager kan ik appreci?ren. Het klaarstaan van een hoop voorgekauwde pakketten is niet slecht, en de snelheid waarmee bepaalde populaire nieuwe versies hun weg vinden naar je desktop is leuk. En voor de rest, lig nergens wakker van en gebruik de distributie die je het meeste ligt... Y P schreef: > Hoi, > > ik ben een oude Debian-addicted: > mijn partner gebruikt nu Feisty, > ze kon het redelijk intuitief installeren, > maar wat heeft het meer dan een Etch? is het iets zichtbaar of iets > tastbaar? > Of moest zij een Kubuntu installeren om iets innoverend te zien? > > OK, misschien tastbaarder, want de hardware is wel prima gedetecteerd, > maar de multimedia toestanden zijn alles behalve ok: > - als ik vandaag de sun-java6-jre + sun-java6-plugin niet door de > Sun java plugin verving, konden er de helft > van online games niet gespeeld worden, of dan zonder audio; > > - idem de Flash moet een binair zijn, niet de libflash-mozplugin die met > Ubuntu repos mee komt, anders blijft de gamesite die Flash plugin eisen, > en 't staat er op! > > Kortom, het doet me denken aan de Mandrake toestanden van > weleer! > overtuig me aub dat ik Ubuntu mag blijven promoten, maar hoe kan ik het > doen als het veel simpelder en effici?nter blijkt met een Debian Etch te > werken, zonder veel poespas? > (NB: Sun Java, zelfde probleem). > > Ben dus beetje teleurgesteld > en verwachtte er meer van, zeker tov Debian. > > Greetingz, > > Y P > > > -- Patrick Coeman 171.be ICT consulting & beveiliging - Informatiebeveiliging naar ISO-17799 - openbron en openstandaarden - GNU Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD BTW / Ondernemingsnummer: BE-0868.969.748, Bredestraat 171 - 2620 Hemiksem, Tel:0476 959505 & 03 8777998 www.171.be - www.171hosting.be De inhoud van deze e-mail is een privegesprek tussen u en ik en zal niet zonder toestemming voor iets anders gebruikt worden. From mvdborre at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 09:00:44 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:00:44 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] questions to politicians before elections In-Reply-To: <20070424205315.GB6406@localhost> References: <20070424205315.GB6406@localhost> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704250100v77ed1ce5p2ee339f27d131508@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, 2007/4/24, Dieter Van Uytvanck : > the people from April and FFII.fr did a great job collecting answers > from politicians during the periode before the elections: > > http://candidats.fr/ > > Maybe we can adapt/translate the question list for Belgium and send > them, as the elections are approaching? Any opinions? For fr_be, someone friendly has already registered candidats.fr. As far as I know, no further action has been taken yet. I recently registered the standpunten.be domain name. I will gladly offer it for use in a similar campaign. Sincerely, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From plunus.benoit at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 09:41:35 2007 From: plunus.benoit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt_Plunus?=) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:41:35 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] questions to politicians before elections In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704250100v77ed1ce5p2ee339f27d131508@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070424205315.GB6406@localhost> <6d731d6e0704250100v77ed1ce5p2ee339f27d131508@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nicolas Pettiaux talk about http://www.candidats.be on this list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/2007-February/002246.html & https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/2007-February/002282.html) but this project seem dead :/ On other time, I would have proposed to contact Nicolas for starting again the project but I don't have time before the 15 May and I thing it will be a little bit late for this elections... 2007/4/25, Mark Van den Borre : > Hi all, > > 2007/4/24, Dieter Van Uytvanck : > > the people from April and FFII.fr did a great job collecting answers > > from politicians during the periode before the elections: > > > > http://candidats.fr/ > > > > Maybe we can adapt/translate the question list for Belgium and send > > them, as the elections are approaching? Any opinions? > For fr_be, someone friendly has already registered candidats.fr. As > far as I know, no further action has been taken yet. > > I recently registered the standpunten.be domain name. I will gladly > offer it for use in a similar campaign. > > Sincerely, > > Mark > -- > Mark Van den Borre > Noormannenstraat 113 > 3000 Leuven, Belgi? > +32 486 961726 > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -- Beno?t Plunus aka MyRdDiN http://www.ecriture-multimedia.be http://www.galopin.be http://degustation.galopin.be http://benoit.plunus.be/dotclear2/ Jabber ID: benoit.plunus at ubuntu-be.org From plunus.benoit at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 09:51:24 2007 From: plunus.benoit at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt_Plunus?=) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:51:24 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <1177315984.5878.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <462BCF26.1020402@gmail.com> <1177315984.5878.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Other pictures of the day: http://picasaweb.google.com/plunus.benoit/MeetTheFawn And a little logo for replacing the A27 teasing logo: http://benoit.plunus.be/feistyfawn.png ;) 2007/4/23, Benjamin Sion : > Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 ? 23:09 +0200, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > > Hi all! > > > > I've updated the wiki page to include this small report and a > > picture of *Feisty*... > > (...) > > Pictures of the day: > > http://alaurent.port5.com/ubuntufawn/index.html (on Alexandre's website) > > http://membres.lycos.fr/alaurent/ubuntufawn/index.html ( mirror) > > Really nice pics! > Did you send one of them to The Funky Feisty Competition ? > > bEN > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -- Beno?t Plunus aka MyRdDiN http://www.ecriture-multimedia.be http://www.galopin.be http://degustation.galopin.be http://benoit.plunus.be/dotclear2/ Jabber ID: benoit.plunus at ubuntu-be.org From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be Wed Apr 25 09:55:24 2007 From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:55:24 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] questions to politicians before elections (candidats.be) Message-ID: 2007/4/25, Beno?t Plunus : > Nicolas Pettiaux talk about http://www.candidats.be on this list > (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/2007-February/002246.html > & https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/2007-February/002282.html) > but this project seem dead :/ it is not dead. The point is that I am lacking time to go on today. I did many things with the person who proposed to host the site, with the help of fcouchet (APRIL). To go on we need more help. > On other time, I would have proposed to contact Nicolas for starting > again the project but I don't have time before the 15 May and I thing > it will be a little bit late for this elections... > > > Maybe we can adapt/translate the question list for Belgium and send > > > them, as the elections are approaching? Any opinions? I proposed to do so in March but got very few answers ! I started, looking first for a host, and some help. This came. We have nearly finished to set the copy of candidats.fr on candidats.be > > For fr_be, someone friendly has already registered candidats.fr. As > > far as I know, no further action has been taken yet. who is ready to come and work on this with us ? (Simon and myself) > > I recently registered the standpunten.be domain name. I will gladly > > offer it for use in a similar campaign. good idea. Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be From laurent.richard at ael.be Wed Apr 25 10:01:24 2007 From: laurent.richard at ael.be (Laurent RICHARD) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:01:24 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] questions to politicians before elections (candidats.be) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070425085942.M24691@ael.be> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:55:24 +0200, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote > > On other time, I would have proposed to contact Nicolas for starting > > again the project but I don't have time before the 15 May and I thing > > it will be a little bit late for this elections... > > > > > Maybe we can adapt/translate the question list for Belgium and send > > > > them, as the elections are approaching? Any opinions? > > I proposed to do so in March but got very few answers ! > > I started, looking first for a host, and some help. This came. We > have nearly finished to set the copy of candidats.fr on candidats.be Great. > > > > For fr_be, someone friendly has already registered candidats.fr. As > > > far as I know, no further action has been taken yet. > > who is ready to come and work on this with us ? (Simon and myself) I didn't get much time and with my new job to come (May 1st) I wouldn't have more but if I can help a bit. Laurent Richard -- ASBL AEL http://www.ael.be/ From amedee at amedee.be Wed Apr 25 10:09:48 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:09:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Ubuntu-be] questions to politicians before elections (candidats.be) In-Reply-To: <20070425085942.M24691@ael.be> References: <20070425085942.M24691@ael.be> Message-ID: <43687.193.121.250.194.1177492188.squirrel@amedee.be> On Wed, April 25, 2007 11:01, Laurent RICHARD wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:55:24 +0200, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote > >> > On other time, I would have proposed to contact Nicolas for starting >> > again the project but I don't have time before the 15 May and I thing >> > it will be a little bit late for this elections... >> >> > > > Maybe we can adapt/translate the question list for Belgium and >> send >> > > > them, as the elections are approaching? Any opinions? >> >> I proposed to do so in March but got very few answers ! >> >> I started, looking first for a host, and some help. This came. We >> have nearly finished to set the copy of candidats.fr on candidats.be > > Great. >> >> > > For fr_be, someone friendly has already registered candidats.fr. As >> > > far as I know, no further action has been taken yet. >> >> who is ready to come and work on this with us ? (Simon and myself) > > I didn't get much time and with my new job to come (May 1st) I wouldn't > have > more but if I can help a bit. Great idea, this candidats.be thing, but I'm afraid I would be biased. So please don't expect any direct involvement from me. However I can forward any questions you have to some politicians. A personal approach from one of their own party members (CD&V in my case) might have more effect than a question from the "anonymous" general public. Don't have any high expectations: I'm only one of the many thousand party members, and I know only a handfull of the candidats. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From yellow.penguin at edpnet.be Wed Apr 25 10:16:21 2007 From: yellow.penguin at edpnet.be (Y P) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:16:21 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> Message-ID: <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> Hallo, On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 10:38:40PM +0200, Patrick Coeman wrote: > Ik ga daar kort op in gaan want binnen de kortste keren zitten we in een > gigantisch welles/nietes gedoe. 't Is echt niet m'n bedoeling: louter een indruk van "hype" zonder meer en ik vraag om argumenten, zoals jij hier schitterend doet. Ik vraag dus om te worden overtigd, vandaag ben ik dat nog steeds niet! > om een antwoord op je vraag te geven. Geef je partner de laatste > Debian en de laatste Ubuntu en laat ze beide installeren. Dit is precies wat wij gedaan hebben: Etch op sda2+sda5, Feisty op sda3+sda6, swap op sda1. >Doorgaans is dat al een zee van verschil. Hier veschil ik van mening: als je niet weet dat je de menu-toetsen f2 tot f6 in Ubuntu Live moet afgaan, dan loopt het al mis: Engelse taal, geen be-kbd, enzo, en dan heeft de modale W$-gebruiker al schrik gehad :-) dat het z'n schijf ging overschrijven terwijl het in feite live start. Ik heb dit live meegemaakt een maand of twee geleden bij vrienden waar ik Ubuntu beta of herd had meegebracht. Etch laat hierover geen twijels: het is een installer, punt. Meer nog, het is zelfs een sequenci?ele met "beetje teveel vragen", maar dan passeer je niet naast die essenti?le zaken zoals de taalkeuze of klavier. Meer nog: ik ben verbaasd van het aantal extra -nl pakketten die ik desondanks de NL BE keuze in de installatieprocedure, heb moeten toevoegen in Ubuntu (nooit zoiets meegemaakt zelfs niet in SuSE9). Bij Ubuntu lijkt het inderdaad vlotter te gaan tijdens de installatie, (geen gezever over niet herkende Pioneer DVR-111 of Realktek ethernet-chip); Etch loopt op dit punt achter en liep zelfs tegen de lamp...... Intussen heb ik -tot m'n spijt- evenzeer geprutst onder Ubuntu dan onder Etch: - vervang de sun-java6-jre en -plugin door die van Sun en je zult het verschil merken, meer nog, - vervang de libflash-mozplugin door het FP9 binair, en ga naar spelletjes-sites... Wat is de meerwaarde als ik het dan toch nog met de hand moet doen? Nota: totem-mozilla zit ook in de weg, 't werkt gewoon niet, ook niet na installatie van de w32codecs; aan wat is dit gelegen? >Verder is 'doorgaans' Ubuntu vlugger met > het ondersteunen van nieuwe hardware. Akkoord. >Ik draai hier op een Intel S3000 > MoBo met een Intel Xeon 3000 processor. Ubuntu was vrij snel weg met de > hardware, bij Debian was het wachten op een late beta van 4.0 voor dat > kon. Ik ken ook een geval die al 2 of 3 Ubuntu's geprobeerd heeft en telkens weer **Enkel Bij Ubuntu Installaties** een error 21 krijgt bij reboot, en NOOIT bij Debian install: - bij Ubuntu wordt alles aanzien als sd?? - terwijl Debian ide als hd?? ziet en scsi/sata als sd??, wat in zijn geval het probleem duidelijk *niet* veroorzaakt. Is het aan grub gelegen of aan de installer? >Bij Ubuntu ben je om de 6 maanden toe aan een versie die de huidige > stand van de software volgt, Bij Debian was de versie upgrade bij > momenten een jarenlang draaien met een unstable, verbeter me, maar was > het 3 jaar om van 2.2 naar 3.0 te geraken? Juist. En daarom waren we nieuwsgierig naar Ubuntu met de stille droom om typisch tegengekomen Debian problemen te zien verdwijnen: deels dus wel (hardwaresupport), deels dus absoluut niet (multimediasupport). En dit terwijl multimedia een belangrijk iets is voor iedere modale gebruik(st)er met een W$ verleden (ikzelf niet). > En voor de rest is het een kwestie van smaak, gemak en aanvoelen. Mijn partner ziet geen verschil tussen de Gnome van Etch behalve dat daar nog meer achtergronden zitten dan in Ubuntu en dat Synaptic meteen in het Nl is: dit punt is voor verbetering vatbaar in Ubuntu. Of is het verschil pas te merken als je Kubuntu installeert? >De update manager kan ik appreci?ren. Het klaarstaan van een hoop > voorgekauwde pakketten is niet slecht, en de snelheid waarmee bepaalde > populaire nieuwe versies hun weg vinden naar je desktop is leuk. Akkoord. >En voor > de rest, lig nergens wakker van en gebruik de distributie die je het > meeste ligt... Zij kan het goed gebruiken, maar ik moet de technieker spelen, vandaar dus al deze kritische opmerekingen en vragen, ik hoop niemand te hebben gekwetst, maar ik moet wel zelf overtuigd geraken om Ubuntu ook aan kennissen te kunnen "de hemel in prijzen", en daar twijfel ik nog over. Moge dit helpen. Kind regards, Y P From jefke.vdm at skynet.be Wed Apr 25 11:07:31 2007 From: jefke.vdm at skynet.be (Jef Vdm) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:07:31 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] beryl/xgl ubuntu feisty ati x1700 Message-ID: <462F2863.20007@skynet.be> Hallo, Ik heb net een nieuwe laptop gekocht met een ati X1700 vga kaart. Ik werk met de resticted driver die bij de feisty zelf zit. Ik slaag er maar niet in Beryl werkende te krijgen op ubuntu feisty, ik heb volgende handleiding gevolgt : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420732#post2420732 (bovenaan de pagina) Heb volledig 3D ondersteuning (direct rendering : Yes) maar geen beryl : detected xserver : AIGLX checking display : 0.0 ... checking for XComposite extension : failed No composite extension beryl: No composite extension. in xorg.conf : section "device" identifier "generic video card" driver "fglrx" busid "pci:1:0:0" endsection section "extensions" option "composite" "disable" endsection section "serverflags" option "AIGLX" "off" endsection (deze tekst is overgetypt) Als ik dan composite op enable zet , heb ik geen 3d ondersteunig meer : direct rendering : No en loopt de pc vast bij het starten van beryl-xgl Hoe kan ik beryl toch in gang krijgen op deze pc ? Mvg Jefke From rudi.vansnick at isoc.be Wed Apr 25 11:47:15 2007 From: rudi.vansnick at isoc.be (Rudi Vansnick) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:47:15 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] questions to politicians before elections (candidats.be) In-Reply-To: <43687.193.121.250.194.1177492188.squirrel@amedee.be> References: <20070425085942.M24691@ael.be> <43687.193.121.250.194.1177492188.squirrel@amedee.be> Message-ID: <462F31B3.60500@isoc.be> Amedee Van Gasse schreef: > On Wed, April 25, 2007 11:01, Laurent RICHARD wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:55:24 +0200, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote >> >> >>>> On other time, I would have proposed to contact Nicolas for starting >>>> again the project but I don't have time before the 15 May and I thing >>>> it will be a little bit late for this elections... >>>> >>>>>> Maybe we can adapt/translate the question list for Belgium and send >>>>>> >>>>>> them, as the elections are approaching? Any opinions? >>>>>> >>> I proposed to do so in March but got very few answers ! >>> >>> I started, looking first for a host, and some help. This came. We >>> have nearly finished to set the copy of candidats.fr on candidats.be >>> >> Great. >> >>>>> For fr_be, someone friendly has already registered candidats.fr. As >>>>> far as I know, no further action has been taken yet. >>>>> >>> who is ready to come and work on this with us ? (Simon and myself) >>> >> I didn't get much time and with my new job to come (May 1st) I wouldn't >> have >> more but if I can help a bit. >> > > Great idea, this candidats.be thing, but I'm afraid I would be biased. So > please don't expect any direct involvement from me. > However I can forward any questions you have to some politicians. A > personal approach from one of their own party members (CD&V in my case) > might have more effect than a question from the "anonymous" general > public. Don't have any high expectations: I'm only one of the many > thousand party members, and I know only a handfull of the candidats. > Standards and especially open standards are basic for ISOC community. So, if I, chair of ISOC Belgium, can be of any help, I'll certainly ill try to find some free time in my agenda to participate in this project. Rudi Vansnick /President Internet Society Belgium vzw Treasurer ISOC-ECC Barcelona-Spain Secretaris TIK vzw Peter Peterschapsprogramma Social Profit EROV/ GSM: +32 475 28 16 32 Tel: +32 70 77 39 39 ISOC Belgium - ISOC-ECC & ISOC.EU From serge at vanginderachter.be Wed Apr 25 16:45:31 2007 From: serge at vanginderachter.be (Serge van Ginderachter) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:45:31 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] feisty vs vista Message-ID: <1177515932.6615.3.camel@localhost> Nice (Dutch) article on Ubuntu vs Vista http://www.diskidee.nl/2007/04/17/boksmatch-tussen-ubuntu-linux-en-windows-vista/7451/1 Ca be a nice introductory read for new users. I'll also add it on the PR page Serge -- Serge van Ginderachter http://www.vanginderachter.be/ The box said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed LINUX. -- Unknown From mailstijn at gmail.com Wed Apr 25 19:53:52 2007 From: mailstijn at gmail.com (Stijn Verslycken) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:53:52 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] feisty vs vista In-Reply-To: <1177515932.6615.3.camel@localhost> References: <1177515932.6615.3.camel@localhost> Message-ID: On 4/25/07, Serge van Ginderachter wrote: > Nice (Dutch) article on Ubuntu vs Vista > > http://www.diskidee.nl/2007/04/17/boksmatch-tussen-ubuntu-linux-en-windows-vista/7451/1 > > Ca be a nice introductory read for new users. I'll also add it on the PR > page > Very nice indeed :) Great conclusion in the end ! I've noticed that their testing machine has about the same configuration as my own laptop. Luckily they apparently didn't encounter any X problems with their ATI X1600. Except for this quite severe ati-installer bug, Feisty totally rocks. Many many little things got better compared to Edgy. -- Stijn "Slike" Verslycken mailstijn at gmail.com From dirk.tas at telenet.be Wed Apr 25 21:01:58 2007 From: dirk.tas at telenet.be (Dirk Tas) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:01:58 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] beryl/xgl ubuntu feisty ati x1700 In-Reply-To: <462F2863.20007@skynet.be> References: <462F2863.20007@skynet.be> Message-ID: <1177531318.5500.2.camel@tungsten> Jef, dit ' http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/04/installing-ubuntu-704-ati-x-cards/ ' al eens geprobeerd ? Mvg. Dirk Op woensdag 25-04-2007 om 12:07 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jef Vdm: > Hallo, > > > Ik heb net een nieuwe laptop gekocht met een ati X1700 vga kaart. Ik > werk met de resticted driver die bij de feisty zelf zit. > > Ik slaag er maar niet in Beryl werkende te krijgen op ubuntu feisty, ik > heb volgende handleiding gevolgt : > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420732#post2420732 > > (bovenaan de pagina) > > Heb volledig 3D ondersteuning (direct rendering : Yes) > maar geen beryl : > > detected xserver : AIGLX > > checking display : 0.0 ... > > checking for XComposite extension : failed > > No composite extension > beryl: No composite extension. > > > in xorg.conf : > > > section "device" > identifier "generic video card" > driver "fglrx" > busid "pci:1:0:0" > endsection > > section "extensions" > option "composite" "disable" > endsection > > section "serverflags" > option "AIGLX" "off" > endsection > > (deze tekst is overgetypt) > > > Als ik dan composite op enable zet , heb ik geen 3d ondersteunig meer : > direct rendering : No > > en loopt de pc vast bij het starten van beryl-xgl > > > Hoe kan ik beryl toch in gang krijgen op deze pc ? > > > > > Mvg > Jefke > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070425/05b7adab/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Wed Apr 25 21:48:07 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:48:07 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> Message-ID: <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> Op woensdag 25-04-2007 om 11:16 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Y P: > Hier veschil ik van mening: als je niet weet dat je de > menu-toetsen f2 tot f6 in Ubuntu Live moet afgaan, dan loopt het al > mis: Engelse taal, geen be-kbd, enzo, en dan heeft de modale > W$-gebruiker al schrik gehad :-) dat het z'n schijf ging overschrijven > terwijl het in feite live start. Ik heb dit live meegemaakt een maand > of twee geleden bij vrienden waar ik Ubuntu beta of herd had > meegebracht. Die F2-F6 staan wel aangeduid, dacht ik, maar we zijn sowieso van plan een gelocaliseerde versie van de CDs voor Belgi? te maken. Wat "live" vs. "overschrijven" betreft: dat staat op de offici?le CDs & op de site wel uitgelegd. Maar idd. een goed idee om dat misschien tijdens het booten ook nog eens duidelijk te maken ("/me noteert"). > Meer nog: ik ben verbaasd van het aantal extra -nl pakketten die ik > desondanks de NL BE keuze in de installatieprocedure, heb moeten > toevoegen in Ubuntu (nooit zoiets meegemaakt zelfs niet in SuSE9). Op ??n CD passen nooit alle vertalingen, en blijkbaar worden niet alle vertalingen/woordenlijsten automatisch na-ge?nstalleerd via internet? Het simpelste is om nadien in Systeem --> Beheer --> Taalondersteuning dit te vervolledigen. > Intussen heb ik -tot m'n spijt- evenzeer geprutst onder Ubuntu dan > onder Etch: > - vervang de sun-java6-jre en -plugin door die van Sun en je zult het > verschil merken, meer nog, De sun-java6-* pakketten _zijn_ gewoon de Sun binaries, en die werken hier al maanden zonder problemen, dus ik begrijp niet goed wat je probleem kan zijn? Wat werkte er niet? > - vervang de libflash-mozplugin door het FP9 binair, en ga naar > spelletjes-sites... 'flashplugin-nonfree' downloadt en installeert de binaire FP9, maar die plugin meeleveren kan Ubuntu niet (Adobe verbiedt dat...). ('libflash-mozplugin' is Gnash) > Nota: totem-mozilla zit ook in de weg, 't werkt gewoon niet, ook niet > na installatie van de w32codecs; aan wat is dit gelegen? Het werkt wel voor bepaalde content, dacht ik, maar nog niet voor alles. Persoonlijk gebruik ik meestal de mplayer-plugin, maar die heeft dan weer andere usability-problemen. 'w32codecs' is illegaal, en werkt daarnaast ook gewoon niet met GStreamer 0.10 (en dus niet met totem-gstreamer). WMV t.e.m. WMV9 zou nu wel (meestal) moeten werken met de ffmpeg codec bibliotheek (en de GStreamer plugin die die gebruikt). Jammer genoeg worden mms: streams nog niet ondersteund in Totem (net als DVDs overigens). Maar algemeen: multimedia is een pijnpunt dat niet simpel gratis & legaal op te lossen is. > Ik ken ook een geval die al 2 of 3 Ubuntu's geprobeerd heeft en telkens > weer **Enkel Bij Ubuntu Installaties** een error 21 krijgt bij reboot, > en NOOIT bij Debian install: > - bij Ubuntu wordt alles aanzien als sd?? > - terwijl Debian ide als hd?? ziet en scsi/sata als sd??, Mijn desktop (7 jaar oud) heeft nog /dev/hd?, maar Ubuntu gebruikt de nieuwe "algemene" libata driver voor de PATA & SATA controllers die libata al ondersteunt. > wat in zijn > geval het probleem duidelijk *niet* veroorzaakt. > Is het aan grub gelegen of aan de installer? Een combinatie van het BIOS, de kernel en de installer. De installer kan bepaalde info uit het BIOS niet van de kernel krijgen omdat die kernel-functie een andere kernel-functie om zeep helpt. of zoiets. ;) Ik heb wel van de developers begrepen dat dat in de volgende versie opgelost zou moeten zijn. Het komt er op neer dat de volgorde van /dev/sd? devices kan veranderen als je vanaf CD-ROM boot, en dat de info om dat op te vangen momenteel niet beschikbaar is voor de installer. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Wed Apr 25 21:56:00 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:56:00 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] beryl/xgl ubuntu feisty ati x1700 In-Reply-To: <462F2863.20007@skynet.be> References: <462F2863.20007@skynet.be> Message-ID: <1177534560.5062.147.camel@localhost> Op woensdag 25-04-2007 om 12:07 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jef Vdm: > Ik heb net een nieuwe laptop gekocht met een ati X1700 vga kaart. Ik > werk met de resticted driver die bij de feisty zelf zit. > > Ik slaag er maar niet in Beryl werkende te krijgen op ubuntu feisty, Ik meen gehoord te hebben dat fglrx & compiz/beryl niet erg goed samengaan, maar ik kan me vergissen. ATI-kaarten die met de open source drivers werken, zijn dan weer bij de besten om te gebruiken met deze 3D-effecten (na Intel, wat gewoon perfect werkt). Je kan dit soort vragen trouwens beter op ubuntu-nl stellen (dat is de Nederlandstalige support-lijst). -- Jan Claeys From rr at lilit.be Thu Apr 26 07:06:56 2007 From: rr at lilit.be (Snulkid) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:06:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> Hello Le Mercredi 25 Avril 2007 22:48, Jan Claeys a ?crit : > > W$-gebruiker al schrik gehad :-) dat het z'n schijf ging > > overschrijven terwijl het in feite live start. (...) > (...) een gelocaliseerde versie van de CDs voor Belgi? te maken. > Wat "live" vs. "overschrijven" betreft: dat staat op de offici?le CDs > & op de site wel uitgelegd. Maar idd. een goed idee om dat > misschien tijdens het booten ook nog eens duidelijk te maken ("/me > noteert"). After he asks me about Linux and Linux distros, a (computer-literate) collegue has tried ubuntu and was a bit lost about accessing his disks (he wanted to open some files for testing purposes). Maybe icons on the desktop "? la Knoppix", at least during the live session, would be an improvement. When *first* clicking on them, a popup dialog box could clearly inform about the "overwriting concern". And if there is a reliable way to figure out which partition is C:, D:,... (I guess there is), including such a mention in the icon name would be quite useful for Average Joe. Your opinion ? -- snulkid From yellow.penguin at edpnet.be Thu Apr 26 13:14:08 2007 From: yellow.penguin at edpnet.be (Y P) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:14:08 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 10:48:07PM +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: >we zijn sowieso van plan > een gelocaliseerde versie van de CDs voor Belgi? te maken. ZEEEEEEEEEER goed idee, want mijn confrontatie met al de extra -nl en -nl-nl packs die niet default meekomen met je install en taal+landkeuze, dat valt echt tegen. Ook pleit ik, net als in suse9 en andere mandrivas, om de vraag te stellen of de gebruikeer automatisch inlog wil in zijn/haar account, ook een keuze/vergetelheid van Ubuntu, precies omdat het ooit anders was in mdk/suse/en de andere distros die zich toen al zgz. voor het breed publiek profileerden. > Wat "live" vs. "overschrijven" betreft: dat staat op de offici?le CDs & > op de site wel uitgelegd. Maar idd. een goed idee om dat misschien > tijdens het booten ook nog eens duidelijk te maken ("/me noteert"). 't mag ook grappig zijn, om die angst dat "hij bezig is m'n Windowz te overschrijven mille djuuu" weg te nemen :-) > Op ??n CD passen nooit alle vertalingen, en blijkbaar worden niet alle > vertalingen/woordenlijsten automatisch na-ge?nstalleerd via internet? > Het simpelste is om nadien in Systeem --> Beheer --> Taalondersteuning > dit te vervolledigen. Ja maar toch,... eye for detail! zoals in de horeca (soms!): oog voor detail hebben verhoogt de waarde enerzijds, de waardeing anderzijds; je kan er niets mis mee doen, integendeel. > > Intussen heb ik -tot m'n spijt- evenzeer geprutst onder Ubuntu dan > > onder Etch: > > - vervang de sun-java6-jre en -plugin door die van Sun en je zult het > > verschil merken, meer nog, > > De sun-java6-* pakketten _zijn_ gewoon de Sun binaries, en die werken > hier al maanden zonder problemen, dus ik begrijp niet goed wat je > probleem kan zijn? Wat werkte er niet? Try Jewel Quest op http://zylom.net/ of andere games: hier en daar vraag naar java plugin terwijl sun-java6-??? er op staan, idem met Flash, gewoon de 2 klassieke problemen, al dan niet afhankelijk van de licentie: de "echte" non free doen het blijkbaar wel. Onder Etch doet Chr. Marillat's Flash plugin voor Mozilla het prima, onder Ubuntu niet. > 'flashplugin-nonfree' downloadt en installeert de binaire FP9, maar die > plugin meeleveren kan Ubuntu niet (Adobe verbiedt dat...). Ja, 'k dacht wel dat het zo iets zou zijn. > ('libflash-mozplugin' is Gnash) Ok, dit was het pakket die ik installeerde, foute keuze van mij. > > Nota: totem-mozilla zit ook in de weg, 't werkt gewoon niet, ook niet > > na installatie van de w32codecs; aan wat is dit gelegen? > > Het werkt wel voor bepaalde content, dacht ik, maar nog niet voor alles. > Persoonlijk gebruik ik meestal de mplayer-plugin, maar die heeft dan > weer andere usability-problemen. Die is IMHO OK, en de link van Totem met Gstreamer ipv met Xine, stoort me, is een foute keuze, nogmaals because it suckx, terwijl het bij Etch niet dezelfde keuze is, cd. Etch: gisteren vroeg het onder Ubuntu constant naar gstream demxer plugin, en ook iets met gstream mss, en 't ging niet, ook niet na installatie van vanalles-en-nog-wat. > 'w32codecs' is illegaal, en werkt daarnaast ook gewoon niet met > GStreamer 0.10 (en dus niet met totem-gstreamer). Dat zou dan ook -weeral- de reden zijn; nogmaals, de packs van Marillat voor Etch werken (osrry he, ik doe maar vergelijken met het andere o s op dezelfde pc). > WMV t.e.m. WMV9 zou nu wel (meestal) moeten werken met de ffmpeg codec > bibliotheek (en de GStreamer plugin die die gebruikt). Jammer genoeg > worden mms: streams nog niet ondersteund in Totem (net als DVDs > overigens). Mijn familiegenote wil soms de afleveringen van Emma (vrt) op psp herbekijken als ze in vergadering was en deze heeft gemist, dus hoef ik opnieuw niet te herhalen onder welke distro het WEL ging!!! > Maar algemeen: multimedia is een pijnpunt dat niet simpel gratis & > legaal op te lossen is. Ja ik ben ervan bewust, maar laat ons dan niet hypokriet zijn: beter een distro waar je dit probleem snel kunt oplossen ipv een qemu ofzo te installeren waaronder je XP of erger onder laat draaien met IE, of andere oplossingen onder de vorm van Wine om IE eronder te laten draaien: IMHO Linux moet je draaien om alles onder Linux te kunnen doen, die mening is hier ook gedeeld; maar ik vrees dat er dan teveel geprutst moet worden om aan functionaliteit te winnen onder Ubuntu omw Mijn desktop (7 jaar oud) heeft nog /dev/hd?, maar Ubuntu gebruikt de > nieuwe "algemene" libata driver voor de PATA & SATA controllers die > libata al ondersteunt. > > > wat in zijn > > geval het probleem duidelijk *niet* veroorzaakt. > > Is het aan grub gelegen of aan de installer? > > Een combinatie van het BIOS, de kernel en de installer. > > De installer kan bepaalde info uit het BIOS niet van de kernel krijgen > omdat die kernel-functie een andere kernel-functie om zeep helpt. of > zoiets. ;) Ik heb wel van de developers begrepen dat dat in de volgende > versie opgelost zou moeten zijn. Afwachten dan. > Het komt er op neer dat de volgorde van /dev/sd? devices kan veranderen > als je vanaf CD-ROM boot, en dat de info om dat op te vangen momenteel > niet beschikbaar is voor de installer. Wel voor die van Etch ! Maar ok, leuk om zeer sereen info en ervaring hieromtrent uit te wisselen; nogmaals bedankt. Grtnx, Y P From yellow.penguin at edpnet.be Thu Apr 26 13:26:30 2007 From: yellow.penguin at edpnet.be (Y P) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:26:30 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] C D E ... Was:Re:wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> Message-ID: <20070426122630.GF2496@starfish> On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 08:06:56AM +0200, Snulkid wrote: > Hello > > Le Mercredi 25 Avril 2007 22:48, Jan Claeys a ?crit : > > > W$-gebruiker al schrik gehad :-) dat het z'n schijf ging > > > overschrijven terwijl het in feite live start. (...) > > (...) een gelocaliseerde versie van de CDs voor Belgi? te maken. > > Wat "live" vs. "overschrijven" betreft: dat staat op de offici?le CDs > > & op de site wel uitgelegd. Maar idd. een goed idee om dat > > misschien tijdens het booten ook nog eens duidelijk te maken ("/me > > noteert"). > > After he asks me about Linux and Linux distros, a (computer-literate) > collegue has tried ubuntu and was a bit lost about accessing his disks > (he wanted to open some files for testing purposes). > Maybe icons on the desktop "? la Knoppix", at least during the live > session, would be an improvement. When *first* clicking on them, a > popup dialog box could clearly inform about the "overwriting concern". > And if there is a reliable way to figure out which partition is C:, > D:,... (I guess there is), including such a mention in the icon name > would be quite useful for Average Joe. > > Your opinion ? Not a good idea; why? : - if the swap is hda or sda1, where does you give the first hd part the name C:\ ? - the nomenclatura of hda/sda is not the major problem, the admin/detection of it and their correct implementation in teh boot lines in menu.lst, that's a major goal. - When concepts are totally different, IMHO ex-W$ people should do efforts to understand why it is so different, as if thei should understand that your Linux o s can be installed/splitted in many patts where the orde isn't important, but the partition type and fs: Linux people must invest in the goal to make ex-W$ people understand what the differences/advantages of Linux (/Ubuntu) are, not to try to turn our different approach/concept of things to W$ imitations. - One last example to argumentate about this: if you got 2 hds, under W$ hda/sda = C: and hdb/sdb = D: so ex-W$ will never understand why the positons of C D E etc still move depending on each individual computer: so definitely no, IMHO there's nothing wrong with our hda/da conception of naming. YP From dirk.tas at telenet.be Thu Apr 26 20:48:12 2007 From: dirk.tas at telenet.be (Dirk Tas) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:48:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] beryl/xgl ubuntu feisty ati x1700 In-Reply-To: <462F2863.20007@skynet.be> References: <462F2863.20007@skynet.be> Message-ID: <1177616892.5754.0.camel@tungsten> Jefke, Dit http://www.l4l.be/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=122&Itemid=37 al eens gelezen ? Mvg. Dirk Op woensdag 25-04-2007 om 12:07 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Jef Vdm: > Hallo, > > > Ik heb net een nieuwe laptop gekocht met een ati X1700 vga kaart. Ik > werk met de resticted driver die bij de feisty zelf zit. > > Ik slaag er maar niet in Beryl werkende te krijgen op ubuntu feisty, ik > heb volgende handleiding gevolgt : > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2420732#post2420732 > > (bovenaan de pagina) > > Heb volledig 3D ondersteuning (direct rendering : Yes) > maar geen beryl : > > detected xserver : AIGLX > > checking display : 0.0 ... > > checking for XComposite extension : failed > > No composite extension > beryl: No composite extension. > > > in xorg.conf : > > > section "device" > identifier "generic video card" > driver "fglrx" > busid "pci:1:0:0" > endsection > > section "extensions" > option "composite" "disable" > endsection > > section "serverflags" > option "AIGLX" "off" > endsection > > (deze tekst is overgetypt) > > > Als ik dan composite op enable zet , heb ik geen 3d ondersteunig meer : > direct rendering : No > > en loopt de pc vast bij het starten van beryl-xgl > > > Hoe kan ik beryl toch in gang krijgen op deze pc ? > > > > > Mvg > Jefke > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070426/f3b3ba15/attachment.htm From marien.bert at telenet.be Thu Apr 26 22:43:18 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Bert_Mari=EBn?=) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:43:18 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> Message-ID: <46311CF6.9080506@telenet.be> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070426/59a815a9/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Thu Apr 26 23:34:54 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:34:54 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> Message-ID: <1177626896.5062.209.camel@localhost> Op donderdag 26-04-2007 om 14:14 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Y P: > Ook pleit ik, net als in suse9 en andere mandrivas, om de vraag te > stellen of de gebruikeer automatisch inlog wil in zijn/haar account, ook > een keuze/vergetelheid van Ubuntu, precies omdat het ooit anders was in > mdk/suse/en de andere distros die zich toen al zgz. voor het breed > publiek profileerden. Ik denk dat deze slechte gewoonte overnemen uit Windows niet echt bijdraagt aan Ubuntu? Hoe dan ook, dat is een verandering die in de installer dient te gebeuren. Wat ik wel zie zitten is dat we standaard een gdm-theme met face-browser instellen, maar IIRC is het sowieso de bedoeling om dat te doen voor de volgende versie. > > Op ??n CD passen nooit alle vertalingen, en blijkbaar worden niet alle > > vertalingen/woordenlijsten automatisch na-ge?nstalleerd via internet? > > Het simpelste is om nadien in Systeem --> Beheer --> Taalondersteuning > > dit te vervolledigen. > > Ja maar toch,... eye for detail! zoals in de horeca (soms!): oog voor > detail hebben verhoogt de waarde enerzijds, de waardeing anderzijds; je > kan er niets mis mee doen, integendeel. Ik dacht dat die extra taalpakketten normaal ge?nstalleerd worden als er een (werkende) netwerkverbinding is tijdens de installatie, maar ben niet zeker. Bugs (en feature requests) melden kan overigens op Launchpad: > > De sun-java6-* pakketten _zijn_ gewoon de Sun binaries, en die werken > > hier al maanden zonder problemen, dus ik begrijp niet goed wat je > > probleem kan zijn? Wat werkte er niet? > Try Jewel Quest op http://zylom.net/ Dat werkt hier gewoon? Had je toevallig ook nog een andere Java staan? Het zou kunnen dat die "voorrang" neemt of zo. > > > Nota: totem-mozilla zit ook in de weg, 't werkt gewoon niet, ook niet > > > na installatie van de w32codecs; aan wat is dit gelegen? > > > > Het werkt wel voor bepaalde content, dacht ik, maar nog niet voor alles. > > Persoonlijk gebruik ik meestal de mplayer-plugin, maar die heeft dan > > weer andere usability-problemen. > > Die is IMHO OK, Als decoder is die okee, de UI ervan zuigt verschrikkelijk. > en de link van Totem met Gstreamer ipv met Xine, stoort > me, is een foute keuze, nogmaals because it suckx, terwijl het bij Etch > niet dezelfde keuze is, cd. Etch: gisteren vroeg het onder Ubuntu > constant naar gstream demxer plugin, en ook iets met gstream mss, en 't > ging niet, ook niet na installatie van vanalles-en-nog-wat. Er is geen open source mms: plugin voor gstreamer, wel een commerci?le. > Dat zou dan ook -weeral- de reden zijn; nogmaals, de packs van Marillat > voor Etch werken (osrry he, ik doe maar vergelijken met het andere o s > op dezelfde pc). Er zijn meerdere repo's ? la Marillat voor Ubuntu, maar je kan toch moeilijk eisen dat Ubuntu illegale software meelevert of aanraadt? (En ik denk niet dat Debian dat wel doet...) > > WMV t.e.m. WMV9 zou nu wel (meestal) moeten werken met de ffmpeg codec > > bibliotheek (en de GStreamer plugin die die gebruikt). Jammer genoeg > > worden mms: streams nog niet ondersteund in Totem (net als DVDs > > overigens). > > Mijn familiegenote wil soms de afleveringen van Emma (vrt) op psp > herbekijken als ze in vergadering was en deze heeft gemist, dus hoef ik > opnieuw niet te herhalen onder welke distro het WEL ging!!! Mits het manueel installeren van illegale kopie?n van bepaalde commerci?le software? Of is er ergens een backport van VLC of mplayer of xine die tegen die nieuwe ffmpeg linkt? (De ffmpeg-versie in etch ondersteunt namelijk geen WMV9.) > > Maar algemeen: multimedia is een pijnpunt dat niet simpel gratis & > > legaal op te lossen is. > > Ja ik ben ervan bewust, maar laat ons dan niet hypokriet zijn: beter een > distro waar je dit probleem snel kunt oplossen ipv een qemu ofzo te > installeren waaronder je XP of erger onder laat draaien met IE, of > andere oplossingen onder de vorm van Wine om IE eronder te laten > draaien: IMHO Linux moet je draaien om alles onder Linux te kunnen doen, > die mening is hier ook gedeeld; maar ik vrees dat er dan teveel geprutst > moet worden om aan functionaliteit te winnen onder Ubuntu omw al die legale problemen waarvoor ik begrip heb. Als je even rondkijkt op internet vind je echt wel info over wat je nodig hebt, zelfs links van op de wiki (maar blijf a.u.b. van automatix & easyubuntu af, daar zijn in het verleden nogal wat problemen mee geweest). > > Het komt er op neer dat de volgorde van /dev/sd? devices kan veranderen > > als je vanaf CD-ROM boot, en dat de info om dat op te vangen momenteel > > niet beschikbaar is voor de installer. > > Wel voor die van Etch ! De kernel in etch is dan ook "oud". ;-) En ik denk dat Debian ook veel conservatiever is wat betreft dingen als libata, en die nieuwe drivers enkel gebruikt voor de controllers die geen oude driver hebben, terwijl Ubuntu het gebruikt voor alle controllers waar het mee zou moeten werken. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Thu Apr 26 23:43:12 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:43:12 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] C D E ... Was:Re:wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20070426122630.GF2496@starfish> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> <20070426122630.GF2496@starfish> Message-ID: <1177627392.5062.216.camel@localhost> Op donderdag 26-04-2007 om 14:26 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Y P: > - One last example to argumentate about this: if you got 2 hds, under > W$ hda/sda = C: and hdb/sdb = D: That's wrong: by default the boot partition is always C:, even if it would be, say, '/dev/sdg' in linux, other disks are named using a scheme that's often very confusing and might even change. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Thu Apr 26 23:47:41 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:47:41 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <46311CF6.9080506@telenet.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> <46311CF6.9080506@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1177627663.5062.220.camel@localhost> Op donderdag 26-04-2007 om 23:43 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bert Mari?n: > So: which keyboards shall you include in the package? Actually, all the keyboard-layouts are in 1 package, and the live-CD already gives you the choice to select another one before booting. -- Jan Claeys From marien.bert at telenet.be Fri Apr 27 00:00:56 2007 From: marien.bert at telenet.be (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Bert_Mari=EBn?=) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:00:56 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Feisty Fawn Disks Message-ID: <46312F28.9010706@telenet.be> Hi, For those who are interested and/or live near Heist-op-den-Berg: I have: - Ubuntu-desktop-dvd-i386 - Ubuntu-desktop-dvd-amd64 - Kubuntu-desktop-dvd-i386 - Kubuntu-desktop-dvd-amd64 - Xubuntu-desktop-cd-i386 - Xubuntu-desktop-cd-amd64 - Edubuntu-desktop-cd-i386 - Edubuntu-desktop-cd-amd64 I just have to burn them to disk. Bert. From dirk.tas at telenet.be Fri Apr 27 05:56:37 2007 From: dirk.tas at telenet.be (Dirk Tas) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:56:37 +0000 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? Message-ID: One of my friends has a Thai keyboard. Dirk, >----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- >Van: Bert Mari?n [mailto:marien.bert at telenet.be] >Verzonden: donderdag, april 26, 2007 11:43 PM >Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium' >Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? > >-- >ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > >You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > From mvdborre at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 08:25:31 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:25:31 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] feisty cd's arrived Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704270025i123e6da7g82a9e3e7e337e6b8@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Feisty cd's have arrived at my place. Fair organisers for Gent (Ismael & Dieter) & Hasselt (Bart), please get in touch. Sincerely, Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From guy at linux-service.be Fri Apr 27 08:32:38 2007 From: guy at linux-service.be (guy duportail) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:32:38 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] icd-dag:goedkeuring Message-ID: <200704270932.38647.guy@linux-service.be> Antwoord vandaag gekregen. Is er intresse? Guy Beste Guy, ? Het heeft wat langer geduurd om alles intern te regelen, maar ik ben tevreden dat we jullie kunnen uitnodigen. De ICT-dag is immers een organisatie met hoofdsponsor Microsoft en zij hebben medezeggenschap over de inhoud van de beurs. Uit het feit dat we ook Linux, Apple en een project over Open Standaarden uitnodigen, blijkt duidelijk dat we alle platformen en visies op onze ICT-beurs kunnen voorstellen. ? Je zal een mail krijgen met alle praktische info. ? Beste, ? Intussen ziet het er naar uit dat we ook voor de ICT-dag in mei 650 deelnemers kunnen halen. Dat zou prachtig zijn, want eind mei is men meestal minder geneigd nog nascholingen te volgen. ? We nodigen u dan ook graag uit er bij te zijn als standhouder. Bevestig zeker voor 10 mei. ? Concreet: www.ictdag.be Datum: Maandag 21 mei 2007 Plaats: Karel de Grote Hogeschool campus Hoboken (Antwerpen) Ligging: zie www.ictdag.be ? Alle info voor standhouders: http://www.ictdag.be/10/interesse.aspx ? NIEUWIGHEDEN 1.????? Het is niet meer toegelaten eigen standenbouw mee te brengen. Dus geen eigen panelen of wanden meer. We beperken de ruimte per standhouder strikt tot ??n tafel en twee stoelen. Zo kunnen we alle standhouders in de grote zaal verzamelen, samen met alle deelnemers en hoeven we niet uit te wijken naar andere locaties. 2.????? Je zal ?s middags een sessie kunnen geven van maximaal 20 minuten over jouw aanbod, inbegrepen in de kostprijs. 3.????? Alle standhouders mogen materiaal in de draagtas stoppen, vanaf nu ook inbegrepen in de kostprijs (dit was vorige keer nog extra te betalen). ? ? KOSTPRIJS (Maximaal, indien minder dan 650 deelnemers daalt de kostprijs nog) 520 euro excl. BTW From dieter.vanderfaeillie at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 08:33:48 2007 From: dieter.vanderfaeillie at gmail.com (Dieter Vanderfaeillie) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:33:48 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] feisty cd's arrived In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704270025i123e6da7g82a9e3e7e337e6b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704270025i123e6da7g82a9e3e7e337e6b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hoi Mark In verband met de beurs? Zeg eens? Ik en Isma?l gingen samenkomen, maar hij heeft nu examens dacht ik... groeten Dieter On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:25:31 +0200, Mark Van den Borre wrote: > Hi all, > > Feisty cd's have arrived at my place. Fair organisers for Gent (Ismael > & Dieter) & Hasselt (Bart), please get in touch. > > Sincerely, > > Mark -- P.S. Think free, think OpenSource! From bruno at indymedia.be Fri Apr 27 08:44:40 2007 From: bruno at indymedia.be (Bruno De Bondt) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:44:40 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] install parties Message-ID: <4631A9E8.6070006@indymedia.be> Hello, Our first install party was great fun. There were about 20 people, most of them came to install, some of them to test (live cd) or to have a chat about Ubuntu / Linux / Foss. You can find a short report (in Dutch) and pictures on http://www.indymedia.be/en/node/8973 . We discussed this afterwards within Indymedia.be. We are planning to do an install party with every new Ubuntu release, since it's relatively easy to organise and a nice way to help people to get started with Ubuntu. People who came on Sunday said they really like the 'Linux afternoon', and where enthousiastic about the idea to attend more parties. Nice for us also was that we reached people who we didn't know yet. Also the support map is a good tool for reaching new people: several questions came in already, and people will start coming by for help with installations, demo's etc. -- bruno From paul at cobbaut.be Fri Apr 27 09:20:34 2007 From: paul at cobbaut.be (Paul Cobbaut) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:20:34 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] C D E ... Microsoft partitions In-Reply-To: <1177627392.5062.216.camel@localhost> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> <20070426122630.GF2496@starfish> <1177627392.5062.216.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4631B252.2040802@cobbaut.be> Jan Claeys wrote: > Op donderdag 26-04-2007 om 14:26 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Y P: >> - One last example to argumentate about this: if you got 2 hds, under >> W$ hda/sda = C: and hdb/sdb = D: > > That's wrong: by default the boot partition is always C:, even if it > would be, say, '/dev/sdg' in linux, other disks are named using a scheme > that's often very confusing and might even change. > Sorry to go off topic on this list. You are confusing Windows NT/200x/XP boot and system partition. The system partition (ntldr, boot.ini, ntdetect.com) must be the active primary partition (*). The boot partition (with the winnt or windows folder) can be anything else (but is usually the same in a single-boot), even a dynamic volume. paul (*) unless bootmanagers load another mbr -- blog http://cobbaut.blogspot.com CV http://www.cobbaut.be/cobbaut.php?blad=cv asiel http://www.dierenasieltienen.be From mvdborre at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 09:36:33 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:36:33 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] feisty cd's arrived In-Reply-To: <20070427095705.d682d8d7.gaetan@frenoy.net> References: <6d731d6e0704270025i123e6da7g82a9e3e7e337e6b8@mail.gmail.com> <20070427095705.d682d8d7.gaetan@frenoy.net> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704270136v4b3def75l3154e1cf5d462b54@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/27, Ga?tan Frenoy : > Hi Marc, > > Le Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:25:31 +0200, Mark Van den Borre a ?crit: > > Feisty cd's have arrived at my place. Fair organisers for Gent (Ismael > > & Dieter) & Hasselt (Bart), please get in touch. > > Great news. Can we get some for the WEXS also ? > Did someone already contact you about this ? > > If answers are "yes" and "no", can you let me know the procedure to > get them ? Please note supplies are extremely limited. Our policy is to keep CD's behind the counter and only hand them out to people we have spoken to for a few minutes. I can send you about 50. Options: * Get them at my place (address & phone below). * I send them to you. You pay the postage. * I drop them off at a Brussels station luggage desk, you pick them up there. Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From Peter.Dedecker at UGent.be Fri Apr 27 10:25:07 2007 From: Peter.Dedecker at UGent.be (Peter Dedecker) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:25:07 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <1177626896.5062.209.camel@localhost> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> <1177626896.5062.209.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> Jan Claeys wrote: >> en de link van Totem met Gstreamer ipv met Xine, stoort >> me, is een foute keuze, nogmaals because it suckx, terwijl het bij Etch >> niet dezelfde keuze is, cd. Etch: gisteren vroeg het onder Ubuntu >> constant naar gstream demxer plugin, en ook iets met gstream mss, en 't >> ging niet, ook niet na installatie van vanalles-en-nog-wat. > > Er is geen open source mms: plugin voor gstreamer, wel een commerci?le. Gewoon VLC installeren en dat werkt allemaal, zonder het toevoegen van extra repo's zoals medibuntu ed. Wel universe/multiverse aanzetten, maar dat gebeurt bijna standaard zeker? -- Peter Dedecker Isabellakaai 124 - 9000 Gent GSM: 0486/15.23.20 Peter.Dedecker at UGent.be From mehercle at linux-info.be Fri Apr 27 19:06:10 2007 From: mehercle at linux-info.be (Gunirus) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:06:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] feisty cd's arrived In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704270136v4b3def75l3154e1cf5d462b54@mail.gmail.com> References: <6d731d6e0704270025i123e6da7g82a9e3e7e337e6b8@mail.gmail.com> <20070427095705.d682d8d7.gaetan@frenoy.net> <6d731d6e0704270136v4b3def75l3154e1cf5d462b54@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200704272006.16399.mehercle@linux-info.be> On vrijdag 27 april 2007, Mark Van den Borre wrote: > 2007/4/27, Ga?tan Frenoy : > > Hi Marc, > > > > Le Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:25:31 +0200, Mark Van den Borre a ?crit: > > > Feisty cd's have arrived at my place. Fair organisers for Gent (Ismael > > > & Dieter) & Hasselt (Bart), please get in touch. > > > > Great news. Can we get some for the WEXS also ? > > Did someone already contact you about this ? > > > > If answers are "yes" and "no", can you let me know the procedure to > > get them ? > > Please note supplies are extremely limited. Our policy is to keep CD's > behind the counter and only hand them out to people we have spoken to > for a few minutes. > > I can send you about 50. > > Options: > * Get them at my place (address & phone below). > * I send them to you. You pay the postage. > * I drop them off at a Brussels station luggage desk, you pick them up > there. I can bring them from Mechelen to Ghent, not from Brussels. Gunirus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070427/96b419dd/attachment.pgp From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 27 19:14:46 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:14:46 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] C D E ... Microsoft partitions In-Reply-To: <4631B252.2040802@cobbaut.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> <20070426122630.GF2496@starfish> <1177627392.5062.216.camel@localhost> <4631B252.2040802@cobbaut.be> Message-ID: <1177697688.5062.309.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 27-04-2007 om 10:20 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Paul Cobbaut: > Jan Claeys wrote: > > That's wrong: by default the boot partition is always C:, even if it > > would be, say, '/dev/sdg' in linux, other disks are named using a scheme > > that's often very confusing and might even change. > > > Sorry to go off topic on this list. You are confusing Windows > NT/200x/XP boot and system partition. > > The system partition (ntldr, boot.ini, ntdetect.com) must be > the active primary partition (*). As 'ntldr' is de NT bootloader, this is clearly the boot partition... > The boot partition (with the winnt or windows folder) can be anything > else (but is usually the same in a single-boot), even a dynamic > volume. This partition contains the (operating) system, so I would call it the system partition... -- Jan Claeys From yellow.penguin at edpnet.be Fri Apr 27 19:29:33 2007 From: yellow.penguin at edpnet.be (Y P) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:29:33 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> <1177626896.5062.209.camel@localhost> <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> Message-ID: <20070427182933.GB2505@starfish> We hebben vandaag opnieuw schijf opgeruimd, en plaats gemaakt voor Ubuntu install: Kubuntu van gisteren avond viel eerst mee, dan helemaal tegen: Konqueror is en blijft een ondoorzichtbare doos en je kan er weinig mee aanvangen, zeker als je zelfs niet te weten komt waar je plugins kunt zetten ipv die Kaffeine die echt niets kan afspelen, of bijna. Kortom, vandaag weer Ubuntu erop gezet, en nu, propertjes het volgende gedaan, en 't werkt: a) totem-mozilla eruit zwieren, ander is het kl... op vrt site b) flahs non free pack die mee komt is best ok, c) wel nogmaals sun jre van op Sun zelf moeten installeren (andere goede niet gevonden) d) mplayer en mozilla plugin ervan, + w32codecs van op medibuntu Wel dit werkt allemaal prima. e) Epiphany mocht er ook wel bij, vind ik. Kortom, derde Ubuntu install, eindelijk iets dergelijks dat zonder teveel poespas werkt. Y P PS: Etch er nooit op gekregen wegens ethernet chip en kaart onbekend, en zelfs Pioneer dvd niet herkend, kortom grijs haar van gekregen, met Ubuntu lukt dit punt wel schitterend, maar die totem-gstreamer huwelijk, da's echt niets waard in vergelijking met mplayer en de juiste codecs. Doei! -- VISTA : Virus - Intrusion - Spyware - Trojan - Adware LINUX : LIBRE In a New UNlImited X-window ! ! ! From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 27 19:34:55 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:34:55 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <462E6AD0.2050704@171.be> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <20070426121408.GE2496@starfish> <1177626896.5062.209.camel@localhost> <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> Message-ID: <1177698895.5062.326.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 27-04-2007 om 11:25 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Peter Dedecker: > Jan Claeys wrote: > >> en de link van Totem met Gstreamer ipv met Xine, stoort > >> me, is een foute keuze, nogmaals because it suckx, terwijl het bij Etch > >> niet dezelfde keuze is, cd. Etch: gisteren vroeg het onder Ubuntu > >> constant naar gstream demxer plugin, en ook iets met gstream mss, en 't > >> ging niet, ook niet na installatie van vanalles-en-nog-wat. > > > > Er is geen open source mms: plugin voor gstreamer, wel een commerci?le. > > Gewoon VLC installeren en dat werkt allemaal, zonder het toevoegen van > extra repo's zoals medibuntu ed. Wel universe/multiverse aanzetten, > maar dat gebeurt bijna standaard zeker? VLC & mplayer hebben wel een mms: plugin ja, maar geen van beide kan op de standaard Ubuntu CDs meegeleverd worden vanwege legale problemen (op z'n minst in bepaalde landen), en beide hebben een UI die niet integreert met de rest van Ubuntu. Daarnaast kunnen ze ook niet alle formaten afspelen zonder enkele pakketten die gewoon (bijna[*]) overal illegaal zijn (en dus ook niet in multiverse zitten). Dat probleem is oplosbaar door Totem met GStreamer te gebruiken, en als iemand de nodige plugins daarvoor maakt zullen die dan ook heel makkelijk installeerbaar zijn (na een waarschuwing over mogelijke legale complicaties eventueel). GStreamer is modulair, mplayer & vlc zijn monolitisch, en maken het dus zelf zo goed als onmogelijk om hen te gebruiken als standaard-systeem. GStreamer heeft en *hoop* gebreken, maar hun basis is min of meer goed uitgedacht, en ze werken naar een bruikbare infrastructuur toe, terwijl vlc, mplayer en xine enkel aan ego?stisch kortetermijndenken doen. [*] zijn er nog landen die de "Berne convention" etc. niet ondertekend hebben? Noord-Korea of zo? -- Jan Claeys From mehercle at linux-info.be Fri Apr 27 19:38:49 2007 From: mehercle at linux-info.be (Gunirus) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:38:49 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <1177698895.5062.326.camel@localhost> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> <1177698895.5062.326.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <200704272038.49344.mehercle@linux-info.be> On vrijdag 27 april 2007, Jan Claeys wrote: > [*] zijn er nog landen die de "Berne convention" etc. niet ondertekend > hebben? ?Noord-Korea of zo? Noord-Korea sinds 2003 wel From ubuntu at janc.be Fri Apr 27 20:04:18 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:04:18 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] install parties In-Reply-To: <4631A9E8.6070006@indymedia.be> References: <4631A9E8.6070006@indymedia.be> Message-ID: <1177700659.5062.334.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 27-04-2007 om 09:44 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bruno De Bondt: > Our first install party was great fun. There were about 20 people, most > of them came to install, some of them to test (live cd) or to have a > chat about Ubuntu / Linux / Foss. You can find a short report (in Dutch) > and pictures on http://www.indymedia.be/en/node/8973 . > > We discussed this afterwards within Indymedia.be. We are planning to do > an install party with every new Ubuntu release, since it's relatively > easy to organise and a nice way to help people to get started with > Ubuntu. People who came on Sunday said they really like the 'Linux > afternoon', and where enthousiastic about the idea to attend more > parties. Thanks for organising this, and maybe another time I'll be there to help too... > Nice for us also was that we reached people who we didn't know yet. Yeah, that's always nice, and is something that I like at the Dipro computer fairs too. > Also the support map is a good tool for reaching new people: several > questions came in already, and people will start coming by for help with > installations, demo's etc. I think the support map designers & developers will be happy to hear this! :-) -- Jan Claeys From paul at cobbaut.be Fri Apr 27 20:34:13 2007 From: paul at cobbaut.be (Paul Cobbaut) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:34:13 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] C D E ... Microsoft partitions In-Reply-To: <1177697688.5062.309.camel@localhost> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> <20070426122630.GF2496@starfish> <1177627392.5062.216.camel@localhost> <4631B252.2040802@cobbaut.be> <1177697688.5062.309.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <46325035.5050400@cobbaut.be> Jan Claeys wrote: > Op vrijdag 27-04-2007 om 10:20 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Paul > Cobbaut: >> >> The system partition (ntldr, boot.ini, ntdetect.com) must be >> the active primary partition (*). > > As 'ntldr' is de NT bootloader, this is clearly the boot partition... > >> The boot partition (with the winnt or windows folder) can be anything >> else (but is usually the same in a single-boot), even a dynamic >> volume. > > This partition contains the (operating) system, so I would call it the > system partition... > i agree with you, but Microsoft does not: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314470 paul -- blog http://cobbaut.blogspot.com CV http://www.cobbaut.be/cobbaut.php?blad=cv asiel http://www.dierenasieltienen.be From mvdborre at gmail.com Fri Apr 27 21:34:37 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:34:37 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu-be.org has a goal... please think about it Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704271334m6a1bd0d0n3ef725f53470bee1@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Just a reminder: this mailing list is the primary communication channel for ubuntu-be.org. For every post to this list, you should ask yourself the following question: "Does this post add sufficient value to ubuntu-be.org for every volunteer to read it?" If you can honestly answer "yes" to that question, please post. Otherwise, please don't. Sincerely, Mark Van den Borre your humble coordinator -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From bartek at ubuntu-nl.org Sat Apr 28 10:10:10 2007 From: bartek at ubuntu-nl.org (Bart Broeckx) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:10:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] feisty cd's arrived In-Reply-To: <200704272006.16399.mehercle@linux-info.be> References: <6d731d6e0704270025i123e6da7g82a9e3e7e337e6b8@mail.gmail.com> <20070427095705.d682d8d7.gaetan@frenoy.net> <6d731d6e0704270136v4b3def75l3154e1cf5d462b54@mail.gmail.com> <200704272006.16399.mehercle@linux-info.be> Message-ID: <5ef5829b0704280210w2bf38c1fk31440a8335085f08@mail.gmail.com> OK Mark, thx for the cd's. The Hasselt fair is next month so we're very pleased to be the first boot with Feisty cd's. :-) I'll get in touch with you via Chat. Greetz, -- Bart Broeckx Willekensmolenstraat 83/7 3500 Hasselt 0476/66.20.80 bartek at ubuntu-nl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070428/00b0dbc0/attachment.htm From alexficelle.pub at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 22:05:03 2007 From: alexficelle.pub at gmail.com (Alexandre Ficelle) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:05:03 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Report Online Meeting 2007-04-12 Message-ID: <4633B6FF.30801@gmail.com> Hi all! I have just summarized our on-line meeting that took place on April, 12 2007 at 21.00. The agenda was on the wiki here, to which I added the report that follows. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/OnlineMeeting_2007-04-12 Don't hesitate to add or correct things if needed. I did my best from the transcript (thanks to Beno?t Plunus for providing it to me). Sincerely, Alexandre == Report == People present and participating: Fran?ois Cauwe, Benjamin Sion, "Gunirus", Peter Dedecker, Jan Claeys, Dieter Vanderfaeillie, Dirk Tas, Julien Detroz, Mark Van den Borre, Beno?t Plunus, Thomas Meire, Alexandre Laurent, Roel Huybrechts, Pieter Verledens (I hope I haven't forgotten anyone) Mark asks for ideas for making noise around the release of Ubuntu 7.04 on April 19. === Brainstorming === * Peter Dedecker: rent the Atomium, use the balls for different Ubuntu editions (Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, ...) * Mark Van den Borre: do something with an Atomium maquette on the Brussels market (objection by Jan Claeys: Atomium image is copyrighted) * Benjamin Sion: send news to press (radio, papernews, tv, ...) * Peter Dedecker: give Mannenken Pis an Ubuntu t-shirt * Pieter Verledens: ask Google to put a custom logo on the release day (some Google employees do use Ubuntu on their desktop) * Mark Van den Borre: a Microsoft - Ubuntu soccer match * Fran?ois Cauwe: make the biggest Ubuntu circle with persons on a famous place (lying on the ground?) * Mark VDB: Ubuntu circle with famous people * Benjamin Sion: make an Ubuntu "crop circle", like at Waterloo last summer * Fran?ois Cauwe: go to the parliament and distribute flyers in the shape of hearts "to spread Ubuntu love" * Mark VDB: meet in Brussels for drinks, wear a feather (-> freedom) to distinguish ourselves from the crowd * Fran?ois Cauwe: give free beers, go around giving free hugs * Beno?t Plunus: promote Ubuntu with 2 or 3 demonstration PC's at a wine tasting organized by his parents * Julien Detroz: hand out CD's at train stations * Fran?ois Cauwe: or just hand out flyers in all Belgian train stations * Peter Dedecker: big paper train in a station with demonstration computer inside and motto "jump on the train of freedom" on the outside * Fran?ois Cauwe: motto "you can live without community, but the community cannot live without you" * Mark VDB: send open letter to political parties about their position towards ubuntu * Beno?t Plunus: asking Damien Van Achter (radio Pure FM) for a special "PureBlog" entirely about Ubuntu * Alexandre Laurent: street warning sign A27 (wild animals crossing, representing a deer), maybe motto "watch out for the fawn" * Beno?t Plunus: make a logo out of it and place it on many websites, as teasing, and replace it on the 19th with Ubuntu logo and link to special page on Ubuntu-be.org * Dirk Tas: start a 'poster' campaign in all trainstation and busstations * Mark VDB: do something with the animal itself, like go to a forest/park, honour the fawn, always makes for some good picture, go and have a picnic in a place where there are a lot of fawns? * Dirk Tas: deer park called 'beisbroeck' near Brugge * Alexandre Laurent: animal park in 'La Reid', but a bit far for everyone * Jan Claeys: Plankendael (between Leuven and Mechelen), sort of zoo, with deer and gibbons (among other animals) * Benjamin Sion: reminder about IndyMedia hosting an install party on April 22 * Mark VDB: write a press release and spread it through Belga (donation, > 250?) * Jan Claeys: social event (no laptops), maybe in Brugge === Actual Stuff === * Mark Van den Borre and Benjamin Sion will write a press release, Jan Claeys and Alexandre Laurent will proofread it. We can reuse text from ubuntu-marketing or Canonical, Benjamin Sion will check with them. * Visit to animal park in La Reid on Sunday April 22, 2007 at 14.30. Mark Van den Borre will drive a minivan from Erpe-Mere (Aalst), along Brussels, Li?ge, and to La Reid. Other people interested: Alexandre Laurent (+ partner B?n?dicte), Beno?t Plunus. Beno?t will create a page on the wiki. Alexandre will make an announcement on the mailing list. * Beno?t Plunus created a logo with the A27 street sign ("coming soon" with Ubuntu font) and uploaded it on his site: [http://benoit.plunus.be/dotclear2/index.php?] http://benoit.plunus.be/teasing.png http://benoit.plunus.be/teasing2.png http://benoit.plunus.be/feistyfawn.png From alexficelle.pub at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 22:23:19 2007 From: alexficelle.pub at gmail.com (Alexandre Ficelle) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:23:19 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Pictures on the Wiki Message-ID: <4633BB47.30303@gmail.com> Hi all! During our last meeting in La Reid (animal park), the idea came up that we should have a page on the wiki with links to pictures of our activities. Currently, there is no central location to find such pictures (they're usually links in messages on the mailing-list). What do you think of this? Alexandre From alexficelle.pub at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 22:30:25 2007 From: alexficelle.pub at gmail.com (Alexandre Ficelle) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:30:25 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <1177315984.5878.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <462BCF26.1020402@gmail.com> <1177315984.5878.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4633BCF1.90206@gmail.com> > Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 ? 23:09 +0200, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : >> I've updated the wiki page to include this small report and a >> picture of *Feisty*... >> (...) >> Pictures of the day: >> http://alaurent.port5.com/ubuntufawn/index.html (on Alexandre's >> website) >> http://membres.lycos.fr/alaurent/ubuntufawn/index.html (mirror) Benjamin Sion a ?crit : > Really nice pics! Did you send one of them to The Funky Feisty > Competition ? > > bEN Kevin Elaerts a ?crit : > If you mae photo's off the gathering to go watchs some deers, was > that today?, then you can use those, a guaranteed success. No, I haven't. Do you think we should? Do you see one that strikes you as particularly fitting for that purpose? Alexandre From mvdborre at gmail.com Sat Apr 28 22:55:17 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:55:17 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Pictures on the Wiki In-Reply-To: <4633BB47.30303@gmail.com> References: <4633BB47.30303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704281455g7b0e9ea3tcdef1003d6674e0c@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/28, Alexandre Ficelle : > Hi all! > > During our last meeting in La Reid (animal park), the idea came up > that we should have a page on the wiki with links to pictures of our > activities. Currently, there is no central location to find such > pictures (they're usually links in messages on the mailing-list). > > What do you think of this? Just do it. Make sure it is linked from the main wiki page! Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From alexficelle.pub at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 00:30:14 2007 From: alexficelle.pub at gmail.com (Alexandre Ficelle) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:30:14 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Pictures on the Wiki In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704281455g7b0e9ea3tcdef1003d6674e0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4633BB47.30303@gmail.com> <6d731d6e0704281455g7b0e9ea3tcdef1003d6674e0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4633D906.4000308@gmail.com> > 2007/4/28, Alexandre Ficelle : >> During our last meeting in La Reid (animal park), the idea came up >> that we should have a page on the wiki with links to pictures of our >> activities. Currently, there is no central location to find such >> pictures (they're usually links in messages on the mailing-list). Mark Van den Borre a ?crit : > Just do it. Make sure it is linked from the main wiki page! I have created the following page on the wiki and already added links to pictures of our "Meet the Fawn" afternoon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Pictures Alexandre From yellow.penguin at edpnet.be Sun Apr 29 09:22:47 2007 From: yellow.penguin at edpnet.be (Y P) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:22:47 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] NL-talige wiki Message-ID: <20070429082247.GC2492@starfish> Hoi all, Ubuntu heeft mijzelf en vriendin sterk aangetrokken door het werk die er ook rondom is verwezenlijkt, nl. de documentatie en informatiecampagne, en ook een zekere antielitisme die er bij andere groepen van Linux distos wel beetje bestaat ... Nu is de vraag, en dit kan soms pijnlijk zijn voor de niet echte full Engelstaligen zoals hier thuis: bestaat er ook een nl versie van de Ubuntu wiki of andere leuke referentie-urls in het NL? Thanx :-) en nog een goeie zondag. YP From mvdborre at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 09:41:50 2007 From: mvdborre at gmail.com (Mark Van den Borre) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:41:50 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] NL-talige wiki In-Reply-To: <20070429082247.GC2492@starfish> References: <20070429082247.GC2492@starfish> Message-ID: <6d731d6e0704290141t33a9dc7bgaf48deb841e05754@mail.gmail.com> Op 29-04-07 heeft Y P het volgende geschreven: > bestaat er ook een nl versie van de Ubuntu wiki of andere leuke > referentie-urls in het NL? On the ubuntu-be.org website, have a look at "Nederlands"->"Hulp". Mark -- Mark Van den Borre Noormannenstraat 113 3000 Leuven, Belgi? +32 486 961726 From dirk.tas at telenet.be Sun Apr 29 10:02:33 2007 From: dirk.tas at telenet.be (Dirk Tas) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:02:33 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] NL-talige wiki In-Reply-To: <6d731d6e0704290141t33a9dc7bgaf48deb841e05754@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070429082247.GC2492@starfish> <6d731d6e0704290141t33a9dc7bgaf48deb841e05754@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177837353.9230.1.camel@tungsten> Ofte -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NederlandstaligeDocumentatie Iemand die geintereseerd is of tijd heeft om het fullcircle magazine te vertalen in het nederlands ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/TranslateFullCircle http://fullcirclemagazine.org/ Mvg. Dirk Op zondag 29-04-2007 om 10:41 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Mark Van den Borre: > Op 29-04-07 heeft Y P het volgende geschreven: > > bestaat er ook een nl versie van de Ubuntu wiki of andere leuke > > referentie-urls in het NL? > On the ubuntu-be.org website, have a look at "Nederlands"->"Hulp". > > Mark > -- > Mark Van den Borre > Noormannenstraat 113 > 3000 Leuven, Belgi? > +32 486 961726 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kijk maar eens op deze pagina: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NederlandstaligeDocumentatie Succes Op 29-04-07 heeft Mark Van den Borre het volgende geschreven: > > Op 29-04-07 heeft Y P het volgende geschreven: > > bestaat er ook een nl versie van de Ubuntu wiki of andere leuke > > referentie-urls in het NL? > On the ubuntu-be.org website, have a look at "Nederlands"->"Hulp". > > Mark > -- > Mark Van den Borre > Noormannenstraat 113 > 3000 Leuven, Belgi? > +32 486 961726 > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -- Bart Broeckx Willekensmolenstraat 83/7 3500 Hasselt 0476/66.20.80 bartek at ubuntu-nl.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070429/2ca3858c/attachment.htm From andygoossens at telenet.be Sun Apr 29 12:45:52 2007 From: andygoossens at telenet.be (Andy Goossens) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:45:52 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <20070427182933.GB2505@starfish> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> <20070427182933.GB2505@starfish> Message-ID: <200704291345.53182.andygoossens@telenet.be> On vrijdag 27 april 2007, Y P wrote: > We hebben vandaag opnieuw schijf opgeruimd, en plaats gemaakt voor > Ubuntu install: > Kubuntu van gisteren avond viel eerst mee, dan helemaal tegen: > Konqueror is en blijft een ondoorzichtbare doos en je kan er weinig mee > aanvangen, zeker als je zelfs niet te weten komt waar je plugins kunt > zetten ipv die Kaffeine die echt niets kan afspelen, of bijna. Kaffeine kan alles afspelen wat Xine kan, het gebruikt immers de libxine. Optioneel kan het ook mplayer aanspreken... Ik snap niet wat je bedoelt met "waar je plugins kunt zetten". Installeer gewoon de gewenste programma's/plugins. Indien een bepaalde plugin je niet bevalt, pas dan de bestandsassociatie aan. -- // Andy Goossens // Quote of the moment: You will be honored for contributing your time and skill to a worthy cause. From mongolito404+ubuntu-be at gmail.com Sun Apr 29 12:53:10 2007 From: mongolito404+ubuntu-be at gmail.com (Pierre Buyle) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:53:10 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22 In-Reply-To: <4633BCF1.90206@gmail.com> References: <4623DAD9.8000809@gmail.com> <462BCF26.1020402@gmail.com> <1177315984.5878.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4633BCF1.90206@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4e46f0fd0704290453s4021c995na3b913072d16adfa@mail.gmail.com> Hoi I didn't see any that fit for the FunkyFeistyCompetition because if it's requirements: for a group picture, the competition require the [x|k]ubuntu logo to be recreated by the group. For individual picture, to logo must be visible on the picture. On 4/28/07, Alexandre Ficelle wrote: > > > > Le dimanche 22 avril 2007 ? 23:09 +0200, Alexandre Ficelle a ?crit : > >> I've updated the wiki page to include this small report and a > >> picture of *Feisty*... > >> (...) > >> Pictures of the day: > >> http://alaurent.port5.com/ubuntufawn/index.html (on Alexandre's > >> website) > >> http://membres.lycos.fr/alaurent/ubuntufawn/index.html (mirror) > > Benjamin Sion a ?crit : > > Really nice pics! Did you send one of them to The Funky Feisty > > Competition ? > > > > bEN > > Kevin Elaerts a ?crit : > > If you mae photo's off the gathering to go watchs some deers, was > > that today?, then you can use those, a guaranteed success. > > No, I haven't. Do you think we should? Do you see one that strikes > you as particularly fitting for that purpose? > > Alexandre > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com > > You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 29 23:48:29 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:48:29 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] C D E ... Microsoft partitions In-Reply-To: <46325035.5050400@cobbaut.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <20070425091621.GD2522@starfish> <1177534087.5062.142.camel@localhost> <200704260755.50805.rr@lilit.be> <20070426122630.GF2496@starfish> <1177627392.5062.216.camel@localhost> <4631B252.2040802@cobbaut.be> <1177697688.5062.309.camel@localhost> <46325035.5050400@cobbaut.be> Message-ID: <1177886911.5062.384.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 27-04-2007 om 21:34 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Paul Cobbaut: > Jan Claeys wrote: > > Op vrijdag 27-04-2007 om 10:20 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Paul > > Cobbaut: > >> > >> The system partition (ntldr, boot.ini, ntdetect.com) must be > >> the active primary partition (*). > > > > As 'ntldr' is de NT bootloader, this is clearly the boot partition... > > > >> The boot partition (with the winnt or windows folder) can be anything > >> else (but is usually the same in a single-boot), even a dynamic > >> volume. > > > > This partition contains the (operating) system, so I would call it the > > system partition... > i agree with you, but Microsoft does not: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314470 Well, this isn't windows-be at lists.microsoft but ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu ;-) But seriously, these MS names are really unlogical, and they don't change what I was saying about partition naming under Windows. -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Sun Apr 29 23:54:50 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:54:50 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu? In-Reply-To: <200704291345.53182.andygoossens@telenet.be> References: <20070424192822.GD3387@starfish> <4631C173.4060009@UGent.be> <20070427182933.GB2505@starfish> <200704291345.53182.andygoossens@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1177887291.5062.388.camel@localhost> Op zondag 29-04-2007 om 13:45 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Andy Goossens: > > Kaffeine kan alles afspelen wat Xine kan, het gebruikt immers de > libxine. > Optioneel kan het ook mplayer aanspreken... > > Ik snap niet wat je bedoelt met "waar je plugins kunt zetten". > Installeer gewoon de gewenste programma's/plugins. Indien een bepaalde > plugin je niet bevalt, pas dan de bestandsassociatie aan. "libxine" is opgesplits in meerdere pakketten (universe vs. multiverse). Mogelijk helpt het om 'libxine-extracodecs' te installeren... -- Jan Claeys From ubuntu at janc.be Mon Apr 30 00:03:43 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:03:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] NL-talige wiki In-Reply-To: <1177837353.9230.1.camel@tungsten> References: <20070429082247.GC2492@starfish> <6d731d6e0704290141t33a9dc7bgaf48deb841e05754@mail.gmail.com> <1177837353.9230.1.camel@tungsten> Message-ID: <1177887823.5062.394.camel@localhost> Op zondag 29-04-2007 om 11:02 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Dirk Tas: > Iemand die geintereseerd is of tijd heeft om het fullcircle magazine > te vertalen in het nederlands ? Afgaande op wat ik tot nu toe gezien heb zal het Nederlandstalige "Ubuntu-magazine" meer nuttige content hebben dan full circle, dus medewerking daaraan is misschien interessanter. Al kan je waarschijnlijk wel vertaalde artikels van het ene in het andere overnemen. PS: zaken ivm Nederlandstalige vertalingen kan je misschien beter op de ubuntu-nl lijst bespreken... -- Jan Claeys From wesley at ubuntu-nl.org Mon Apr 30 00:05:01 2007 From: wesley at ubuntu-nl.org (Wesley S.) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:05:01 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <10729bd00704241321p1ea2820bq52aa2922a12ed1ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241148o26b0ed52hac23f33aad80441b@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704241321p1ea2820bq52aa2922a12ed1ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c2431840704291605j7a472812u1c1626dab8058e06@mail.gmail.com> This is an IMPORTANT message for people who want to order shirts.. I just spoke with the supplier. Black t-shirts/polo's and all colors with sizes greater than XXL (XXXL and XXXXL) have to be ordered before 1st of May 2007, so I don't think we'll be able to do this anymore. I didn't know I had to order this fast. I hadn't contacted the supplier yet. So I am really sorry for that! But: Navy Blue t-shirts and polo's up to size XXL can still be ordered for a longer time. I would like to have orders for these Navy Blue t-shirts up to size XXL before the end of 14/05/2007, that's about 2 weeks from now. Here are the prices for the t-shirts and polo's if you order them and are able to pick them up at Turnhout: these can be ordered until 14/05/2007 * T-Shirt 185gr/sqm, navy blue Size S-XXL 14,00? * Polo Shirt 220gr/sqm, navy blue, Size S-XXL 17,00? I have no idea why Ubuntu-NL can deliver them cheaper, but this is really the best I can do for now. I also included shipping costs in the price. After I paid the orders and the shipping, I will see how much everything really cost and if it appears that I charged too much, you can choose what I do with the 1 or 2 euros that I charged too much. I can either transfer it back to you, or I can donate it to the ubuntu-BE team :). If you aren't able to pick up the shirts from Turnhout, but would like me to send them to your home address, then I'll have to find out how much that would cost extra, I'll go to the post office one of these days to ask how much it costs to send a t-shirt to a place in Belgium. So in that case, you can better wait a few days until I know how much shipping to your home address will cost. Again, I am sorry that I can only get you Navy Blue t-shirts now, but it's the best I can do for now. PS: It might be a good idea to wait a day or 2 before you send me the money, because I might be able to reduce the price by 1 or 2 euros after talking to Dennis from Ubuntu-NL (because he has a way of getting them cheaper) and with the supplier (juliux). I'll let you know more in 1 or 2 days! Here are the details for ordering the shirts/polo's if you already want to place an order today or tomorrow: Banking number: 001-4589749-76 For some people (pjotr123 ;-)) this might also be needed to do the payment: IBAN code: BE91 0014 5897 4976 BIC code: GEBABEBB Please include this in the comment of the payment: 1. your email 2. t-shirt or polo 3. size (S to XXL) After I received the t-shirts and polo's, I will contact everyone through e-mail to make appointments to get your shirt or polo. -- Wesley Stessens Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001) http://wesley.debianbox.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070430/decd2de6/attachment.htm From ubuntu at janc.be Mon Apr 30 00:27:25 2007 From: ubuntu at janc.be (Jan Claeys) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:27:25 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <8c2431840704291605j7a472812u1c1626dab8058e06@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241148o26b0ed52hac23f33aad80441b@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704241321p1ea2820bq52aa2922a12ed1ef@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704291605j7a472812u1c1626dab8058e06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1177889245.5062.411.camel@localhost> Op maandag 30-04-2007 om 01:05 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Wesley S.: > Please include this in the comment of the payment: > 1. your email "@" is not allowed in (most?) bank transfer comments! -- Jan Claeys From wesley at ubuntu-nl.org Mon Apr 30 00:38:43 2007 From: wesley at ubuntu-nl.org (Wesley S.) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 01:38:43 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <1177889245.5062.411.camel@localhost> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241148o26b0ed52hac23f33aad80441b@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704241321p1ea2820bq52aa2922a12ed1ef@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704291605j7a472812u1c1626dab8058e06@mail.gmail.com> <1177889245.5062.411.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <8c2431840704291638q426a712ncd5c2f0de9ccf482@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/30, Jan Claeys : > > Op maandag 30-04-2007 om 01:05 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Wesley S.: > > Please include this in the comment of the payment: > > 1. your email > > "@" is not allowed in (most?) bank transfer comments! Just use something like (at) in that case. 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URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070430/b54bf383/attachment.htm From kevin at van-wilder.be Mon Apr 30 01:03:22 2007 From: kevin at van-wilder.be (Kevin Van Wilder) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:03:22 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <8c2431840704291605j7a472812u1c1626dab8058e06@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241148o26b0ed52hac23f33aad80441b@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704241321p1ea2820bq52aa2922a12ed1ef@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704291605j7a472812u1c1626dab8058e06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4635324A.103@van-wilder.be> Wesley S. schreef: > these can be ordered until 14/05/2007 > * T-Shirt 185gr/sqm, navy blue Size S-XXL 14,00? > * Polo Shirt 220gr/sqm, navy blue, Size S-XXL 17,00? Have you any pictures on how they will look like? I would be interested in a Polo shirt, but I would like to see what i'm buying. Kevin From wesley at ubuntu-nl.org Mon Apr 30 01:06:28 2007 From: wesley at ubuntu-nl.org (Wesley S.) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:06:28 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ordering new ubuntu tshirts and polos In-Reply-To: <4635324A.103@van-wilder.be> References: <8c2431840704191414o552be2abi51acc4950efd4482@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704192249q4d2af5e9p70bdca0572f912@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241148o26b0ed52hac23f33aad80441b@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241152v2a6dcb4doc65b83ef5f524987@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704241154i3fc3cbb4uc8835829ca856b83@mail.gmail.com> <10729bd00704241321p1ea2820bq52aa2922a12ed1ef@mail.gmail.com> <8c2431840704291605j7a472812u1c1626dab8058e06@mail.gmail.com> <4635324A.103@van-wilder.be> Message-ID: <8c2431840704291706x63536587sa8abc27231b9238@mail.gmail.com> 2007/4/30, Kevin Van Wilder : > > Wesley S. schreef: > > these can be ordered until 14/05/2007 > > * T-Shirt 185gr/sqm, navy blue Size S-XXL 14,00? > > * Polo Shirt 220gr/sqm, navy blue, Size S-XXL 17,00? > Have you any pictures on how they will look like? I would be interested > in a Polo shirt, but I would like to see what i'm buying. Yes, somewhere in one of the mails in this thread there was a link to a photo... Here it is again: http://ubuntu.juliux.de/shirt/polo.jpg -- Wesley Stessens Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001) http://wesley.debianbox.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-be/attachments/20070430/20bb0f20/attachment-0001.htm From apeeters at lashout.net Mon Apr 30 08:01:28 2007 From: apeeters at lashout.net (Adriaan Peeters) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:01:28 +0200 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu-steunpunten international Message-ID: <1177916488.31243.8.camel@twiadria.ugent.be> >From planet Ubuntu: http://blog.goukihq.org/2007/04/30/ubuntu-cds-database/ Maybe someone can contact them with information about our 'Ubuntu-steunpunten'? Kind regards, -- Adriaan Peeters From bogus@does.not.exist.com Thu Apr 26 15:22:31 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:22:31 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: have to be ordered before the end of 15 May: > * T-Shirt 185gr/sqm, navy blue Size S-XXL 14,00=80 > * Polo Shirt 220gr/sqm, navy blue, Size S-XXL 17,00=80 > > The shirts will be available for pickup in Turnhout. > > If you cannot pick them up and would like me to send them to you, it will > cost another 4,30=80 extra! This is still cheaper than ordering it direct= ly > from the supplier though. (ordering directly from the supplier would cost > you about 24.00=80 with shipping) > > If you want to order shirts, follow these steps: > > 1. Send me a mail with the subject "shirt order" and tell me what you wan= t > to order in the mail. > 2. Transfer the money for the order to bank account number 001-4589749-76= . > > > If you need IBAN or BIC: > > IBAN code: BE91 0014 5897 4976 > BIC code: GEBABEBB --=20 Wesley Stessens Human Knowledge Belongs To The World - Antitrust (2001) http://wesley.debianbox.be ------=_Part_15270_22476782.1178192049447 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Update:

From= now on, only Blue shirts can be ordered!

have to be ordered before the end of 15 May:
* T-Shirt 185gr/sqm, navy b= lue Size S-XXL 14,00=80
* Polo Shirt 220gr/sqm, navy blue, Size S-XXL 17= ,00=80

The shirts will be available for pickup in Turnhout.

If you cannot pick them up and would like me to send them to you, it will cost another 4,30=80 extra! This is still cheaper than ordering it directly from the supplier though. (ordering directly from the supplier would cost you about 24.00=80 with shipping)

If you want to order sh= irts, follow these steps:

1. Send me a mail with the subject "s= hirt order" and tell me what you want to order in the mail.
2. Tran= sfer the money for the order to bank account number 001-4589749-76.

If you need IBAN or BIC:

IBAN code: BE91 0014 5897 4976
B= IC code: GEBABEBB

--
Wesley Stessens <wesley at ubuntu-nl.org>
Human Knowledge B= elongs To The World - Antitrust (2001)
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