I second your comment. If you want to compare LINUX do it with other OS. Not within distros. <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Tarin Mahmood <<a href="mailto:tmahmood@arenamobile.com">tmahmood@arenamobile.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I guess Omi bhai was putting an end to the Fedora Vs. Ubuntu debate, but I'll add something that I think everyone missing. I'll clear my position here first, I love Linux, I love the freedom in it. Currently I use Ubuntu cause I've became used to it. I've also used Redhat , Fedora 1-8 and I know my ins and out of both of the distros. Now I should point out some information Canonical (Ubuntu's Sponsor) also provides <a style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif;" href="http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid" target="_blank">paid supports</a> and if you don't want to pay you go to the community, Its all the same with Redhat, if you want dedicated support you go for paid service if not then go to the Community. Yes Fedora also have a good community. But at the end the paid service is mostly useful for Large corporations and companies. Don't forget, every corporation is in it for money. <div class="Ih2E3d"> <blockquote style="font-family: verdana,sans-serif;">I am not stereotyping Fedora, but seriously I dont see there is any necessity of this distro anymore :) Debian and Mandriva (former mandrake) are much more matured than this one, even you can conside Suse too -</blockquote> </div> I had to point out this comment, cause I think I have to. You are getting it all wrong. Linux is all about community and working together. Red-hat implements something Ubuntu adopts it and Vise versa. Without this community work Linux wouldn't have came this far. So every one is important. So for the sake of Linux, Fedora should exists, so should Ubuntu and other thousands of distros, cause anyone contribute anything in the end it that helps each and every one of us. because it didn't worked for you, doesn't meant it will not work for others, it works. Thousands of servers runs on Fedora/Redhat. Fedora have a big user base. Where I work, the server is a Fedora 8 server and it works, its damn solid. Fedora is more matured then most of the distros you mentioned except Debian. I like redhat because, Red hat have been giving us their OS for free for a Long long time and mind it their contribution to Linux is undeniable and huge. And They still have a big part in Linux's development and they will have for a long time to come. Mandriva and Suse are corporate maggots from whome I think I would stay away, I don't remember Mandriva ever contribute something mentionable to the OSS and while Suse contribution is awesome (Compiz, silverlight etc.) they are sold to MS. I agree yum sucks, but its a new system (w/r to apt) so it needs time. As far I remember their developers are working for an unified repository, once its completed, most of the dependency problems will be solved. I've used Fedora 8 and I have to say it was solid. Only problem was the package manager. but the improvement between Yum(f7) and yum(f8) was very impressive. and in fedora 9 they are reworking the GUI too which looks nicer then the 7/8 's package manager. Its not very reasonable to say one distro sucks or another distro is boss. cause in the core all are the same, They are all built a top of Linux kernel, they are all the same to me Bye -- ubuntu-bd mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd</a> </blockquote></div>