[Ubuntu-BD] Ubuntu Privacy Remix 10.04r1

tanjir ~~ mlist at tanjir.net
Wed Nov 3 17:51:32 GMT 2010

I can see many are confused about Fork and Derivative work.
Fork is a software development term. The definition given from wikipedia
explains it.
Derivative work is a common legal/law term. In software, fork and derivative
work essentially means the same/similar idea. When some one takes a piece of
music, and modifies it (remix or add instruments), then the produced music
is a derivative work of the original music.

Derivative works are used to define license and copyright. Fork is used to
define software integration, and practice. That is why, if some company gets
sued in a US court over a software fork, the defender will use derivative
work to explain the issue not fork. On the other hand, when a software
developer talks to another software developer he will use the word fork.

So in that way all distros are fork of Linux kernel. Now the question is who
is whose derivative work/fork? Essentially Mint is derivative work/fork of
both Debian, and Ubuntu; not Knoppix; where Knoppix is derivative/fork of
Debian. The relationship goes from right to left in the picture Mahdee
Jameel shared.

Based on what I have just said, Mint is clearly a fork/derivative work of
Ubuntu. There should not be any confusion about this. At the beginning of
this thread, some one suggested that Mint is *NOT* fork of Ubuntu, and Mint
is a complete distro. Mint is a complete distro; however it is also fork of
Ubuntu/Debian. It is possible that Mint in near future can derive directly
from Debian; but that does not suggest anything really other than technical
differences. By deriving from Ubuntu Mint does not become less important or
by deriving from Debian does not make Mint more important.

Ubuntu Privacy Remix does not claim it to be a separate distro. If it does,
then it should be considered as a separate distro (provided that it meets
all the requirements). It is possible to release a distro without any
server/update (bad distro though unless the main purpose is served.).
Probably the debate was how much effort was given to make the distro. That
can be a huge discussion for the complexity of such topic.

Now back to the original topic (:-/), I have not used UPR, but it seems like
they tried to create a live DVD (too big for a CD) from where you can work
in an encrypted and secured (at maximum level) environment. It does not let
you connect to insecure network or unexpected network access. The live dvd
can not be installed in Hard Disk. In one line, if you are concerned about
your privacy, this is the distro you are looking at.

Tanjir ~~
tanjir dot net

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:17 AM, mahdee.jameel <mahdee.jameel at gmail.com>wrote:

> I would not delve into technicalities, but here is a great visualization on
> which linux distro is a fork of whom:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Gldt1009.svg
> [Source<
> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/10/31/the-linux-distro-timeline-is-an-extensive-family-tree-of-all-things-linux/
> >
> ]
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