[Bug 137656] Samba Backport Urgently Needed

Soren Hansen soren at ubuntu.com
Fri Sep 7 10:09:32 BST 2007

On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 06:25:25PM -0000, rvjcallanan wrote:
> Sorry if anyone feels hurt...that was obviously not my intention, as
> anyone can see...and there's no need to get personal.

I don't believe I've gotten personal. I merely explained that shouting
is not polite and not likely to get you closer to your goal. You,
however, have spoken badly about something, I care very deeply about,
namely Ubuntu. I rather consider that personal, but have not called you
on it, so let's let the matter rest.

> Is that not what the enterprise samba effort is all about?

I have no clue. Up until yesterday, I was completely unaware of its

> (I note from your observations that this effort seems to have had
> little or no real value).

I cannot and will not as a representative for Ubuntu tell people they
should be using something other than the Samba packages we provide.

a) We have no control over them, which makes it completely impossible
for us to give even a smidgeon of guarantee that their system will
continue to function.

b) It would make *our* efforts to provide Samba completely pointless.

> I detect from your replies some bad karma between Ubuntu and the Samba
> team. It does seem, with the benefit of hindsight, that the onus is
> more on the Samba side.

There is no bad karma of any kind (not to my knowledge, at least). The
Samba people have chosen to provide their latest and greatest software
for a select few Linux distributions (none of which are Ubuntu). That is
fine; it's their choice. It's just out of our control, so I can't go an
make any guarantees that if you're yanking out our Samba packages and
shoving theirs in instead, everything will still work as you'd expect it

Soren Hansen
Ubuntu Server Team

Samba Backport Urgently Needed
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