<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 23/05/11 23:24, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trideceth12@gawab.com">trideceth12@gawab.com</a> wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:1306157080.15994.3.camel@manko-desktop" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I installed Natty a few days ago and I must say I can't stand it. </pre> </blockquote> I sympathise - I know the feeling :-( . <blockquote cite="mid:1306157080.15994.3.camel@manko-desktop" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">I have been experimenting with LXDE and other options (because GNOME 3 is nearly as bad as unity)</pre> </blockquote> The key word here is "nearly" as bad. In fact it is better and more configurable than Unity. Of course, at this early stage there are some quirks to iron out but the potential is definitely there. At this point I shall state that I have switched over to openSUSE (11.4 with KDE). Why you ask? Because of Unity. But why KDE? For this reason: openSUSE has always had KDE as it "flagship", and has always also had very good implementation and support of Gnome. On the other hand, Ubuntu has always been Gnome with wishy-washy implementation of KDE - but now Ubuntu has dropped Gnome and has gone Unity. KDE is in there, and will be there, for the long haul and the best implementation and support of KDE is by openSUSE. Irrespective of what happens to Unity or Gnome #3, KDE will be there and will keep improving. Now, having said this, openSUSE does have good support for GNOME #3 and I have tried it. As I said, it is more configurable than Unity. I have it installed (oops, sorry, "had" - I used the HDs on my wife's computer) on my other set of HDs and used it, alternating between KDE and Gnome #3. If you want to try out what Gnome #3 really looks like download openSUSE 11.4 which is 'pre-configured' with Gnome #3 from here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html">http://www.gnome3.org/tryit.html</a> It is basically a Live DVD [1] but you can install it (much more preferable) and the installation is done from within YaST2 (Gecko>Computer>YaST2) and not from the boot message you get when you first run the DVD. [1] The data is just a tad too big for a normal CD - unless you want to over-burn - so burn it to a 4.7GB DVD. <blockquote cite="mid:1306157080.15994.3.camel@manko-desktop" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> and I think my future is with LXDE. I think Unity has turned me away from Ubuntu and I don't think it will be too long before I'm using another distro. Maybe not, we'll see. Jake </pre> </blockquote> BC <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- "The time has been That, when the brains were out, the man would die," "Macbeth", Shakespeare </pre> </body> </html>